Antibiotics are still the treatment o...

Antibiotics are still the treatment of choice for H. Pylori bacteria

There are 215 comments on the The Seattle Times story from Nov 25, 2007, titled Antibiotics are still the treatment of choice for H. Pylori bacteria. In it, The Seattle Times reports that:

Q: My husband was diagnosed with H. pylori , and his doctor wants to use antibiotics to treat it. via The Seattle Times

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sophe

West Linton, UK

#63 Mar 18, 2012
KassyS wrote:
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Hi those were my very symptoms. I had done the triple therapy once in 2008, somehow forgot to keep tabs of the bacteria remembered in 2011 and used mastic gum. Using mastic gum was the worse decision I could have made. Mastic gum is dangerous and harsh to the stomach especially mine since I had atrophic gastritis and it destroyed my stomach and my life. Please stick to the antibiotics. Sometimes you are required to be on the antibiotics for prolonged periods but stick with it. Do NOT go the herbal route because these herbal products are very dangerous and their side effects are not as well known and documented as the conventional meds.
Good advice. The only reason most of the posts here don't record bad effects from these herbal etc therapies is that they have so little active ingredient the method is almost homeopathy. I totally agree with the advice of sticking with the therapy and if it does not work, and on average it has only a 50% cure rate, then it has to be hard old diet route. Eliminate caffeine, all soft drinks. processed meats, all alcohol and rejoice. You'll be amazed.

Since: Oct 11

Kingstown, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines

#64 Mar 18, 2012
sophe wrote:
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arrrgh. You really should not take ANY supplements and especially not probiotics when you are intentionally trying to clear the gut. the only saving grace for most people who do this is that the probiotics are dead or otherwise inactive and so don't make any difference. But in your case the reason why you sailed through the treatment may well be cos' you deactivated the antibiotic!!! Sorry to bear bad tidings but I think this is too important not to say.
So are you saying that if one takes probiotics with antibiotics simultaneously that the anti-biotics won't work? I know that I usually read that pro-biotics should be taken after the antibiotic treatment but then I never quite understood that if they are taken together with the anti-biotics that the anti-biotics will not work. I am confused though as to why doctors will tell persons to eat lots of yogurt during treatment. Aren't yogurts considered to be pro-biotics? Thanks

Since: Oct 11

Kingstown, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines

#65 Mar 18, 2012
sophe wrote:
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Good advice. The only reason most of the posts here don't record bad effects from these herbal etc therapies is that they have so little active ingredient the method is almost homeopathy. I totally agree with the advice of sticking with the therapy and if it does not work, and on average it has only a 50% cure rate, then it has to be hard old diet route. Eliminate caffeine, all soft drinks. processed meats, all alcohol and rejoice. You'll be amazed.
sophe, one can get rid of h pylori simply through diet without antibiotics? I read online somewhere where a couple persons said they drank lots of water and got rid of it. Sometimes you don't know what to believe online. I ate apple only and drank cabbage juice for a whole month and did not get rid of it. I so wish that I had tried the antibiotics again. I did not have anyone properly advising me. I should have talked to a health care professional before I made the decision but I foolishly thought that the bacteria was resistant because of information that I read online and went ahead and did my own thing, but the truth is the anti-biotics DO work. It's just that sometimes the bacteria requires more than one treatment and for longer periods for some persons, but they do work. You just have to be patient and keep trying. I do not want anyone to make rash decisions with these herbal products like I did. People, please DO NOT buy into the hype of what you read online about these herbal pills etc. Talk to your doctor and follow their advice and line of treatment.
shanna rowe

Montgomery, AL

#66 Mar 19, 2012
I know we all want to get better, but we cant lose our faith in GOD. He's going to get us through these illnesses. I know he is, we just have to be patient and think like this----theres someone out there so much worse, not saying this bacteria is a walk in the park because this is the worst illness I have ever had to deal with. But Im not going to lose my faith. I do have a couple of concerns. I have 'the shakes' at night. Im also experiencing a pain in my ears. Whenever I swallow my ears catch a pain. Its not an excrusciating pain but it is discomforting, nonetheless. Also, could this bacteria be associated with the sudden canker sores in my mouth? Its like 5 of them! I never did oral and I have never had sex, so I know it cant be an STD....Another thing, is it safe to stick out the antibiotics no matter what side effects Im experiencing. Im willing to do anything to become well again and if sticking out the antibiotics is what I have to do then Im willing!....someone get back with me please on these unanswered questions. Oh yes and Thanks krissy I bought a real big thing of cranberry juice!...is lethargy and restless nights normal? Im still not gettin any sleep. Things are going to get better though, this is just a trial and everyone gies through their share of tribes and tribulations, just dont give up, dont cry (Ive cried so much in the pass couple of weeks). I refuse to let this illness take over me...

Since: Oct 11

Kingstown, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines

#67 Mar 19, 2012
shanna rowe wrote:
I know we all want to get better, but we cant lose our faith in GOD. He's going to get us through these illnesses. I know he is, we just have to be patient and think like this----theres someone out there so much worse, not saying this bacteria is a walk in the park because this is the worst illness I have ever had to deal with. But Im not going to lose my faith. I do have a couple of concerns. I have 'the shakes' at night. Im also experiencing a pain in my ears. Whenever I swallow my ears catch a pain. Its not an excrusciating pain but it is discomforting, nonetheless. Also, could this bacteria be associated with the sudden canker sores in my mouth? Its like 5 of them! I never did oral and I have never had sex, so I know it cant be an STD....Another thing, is it safe to stick out the antibiotics no matter what side effects Im experiencing. Im willing to do anything to become well again and if sticking out the antibiotics is what I have to do then Im willing!....someone get back with me please on these unanswered questions. Oh yes and Thanks krissy I bought a real big thing of cranberry juice!...is lethargy and restless nights normal? Im still not gettin any sleep. Things are going to get better though, this is just a trial and everyone gies through their share of tribes and tribulations, just dont give up, dont cry (Ive cried so much in the pass couple of weeks). I refuse to let this illness take over me...
People have different symptoms with h pylori so all those symptoms that you are having could very well be related. For me I had pains in my hands, burnings under my breast and in the breast and sometimes heart palpitations. YES stick to the antibiotics as long as the side effects are tolerable. If they cause you severe pains or shortness of breath or anything that can be considered lifethreatening then talk to your doctor. Outside of those stick to the antibiotics because that is the best way to treat the bacteria since these so called homeopathic and herbal remedies are not always safe for everyone and most of them do not even work or if they do they take much longer such as months to work. Stick with the antibiotics and watch what you eat. NO MILK, NO SUGAR, NO SODAS, NO CAFFEINE, NO SPICY FOOD. BLAND FOODS and lots of veggies. Drink lots of water long after you have taken the antibiotics. Don't drink too much water or liquid immediately after the antibiotics. Give them at least 90 minutes to soak into your stomach. Too much water at that time could weaken the strength. Just about a glass of cranberry juice with the antibiotic instead of water. Then after 90 mins of taking the antibiotics you can drink as much water as you want How much longer do you have to go before the antibiotics are finished?

Since: Oct 11

Kingstown, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines

#68 Mar 19, 2012
shanna rowe wrote:
I know we all want to get better, but we cant lose our faith in GOD. He's going to get us through these illnesses. I know he is, we just have to be patient and think like this----theres someone out there so much worse, not saying this bacteria is a walk in the park because this is the worst illness I have ever had to deal with. But Im not going to lose my faith. I do have a couple of concerns. I have 'the shakes' at night. Im also experiencing a pain in my ears. Whenever I swallow my ears catch a pain. Its not an excrusciating pain but it is discomforting, nonetheless. Also, could this bacteria be associated with the sudden canker sores in my mouth? Its like 5 of them! I never did oral and I have never had sex, so I know it cant be an STD....Another thing, is it safe to stick out the antibiotics no matter what side effects Im experiencing. Im willing to do anything to become well again and if sticking out the antibiotics is what I have to do then Im willing!....someone get back with me please on these unanswered questions. Oh yes and Thanks krissy I bought a real big thing of cranberry juice!...is lethargy and restless nights normal? Im still not gettin any sleep. Things are going to get better though, this is just a trial and everyone gies through their share of tribes and tribulations, just dont give up, dont cry (Ive cried so much in the pass couple of weeks). I refuse to let this illness take over me...
You will be ok Shanna. God is with you. God has put me on these forums to help people like you after my terrible experience with h pylori and by using mastic gum my life was destroyed. As long as I have strength I would discourage persons from using mastic gum. It does not matter what others on this forum think or have to say. Just take your antibiotics as prescribed, eat healthy and listen to your doctor. If I had someone to advise me and to give me proper directions and warn me to stay away from mastic gum and other such herbal supplements my life would be very different today.

Since: Oct 11

Kingstown, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines

#69 Mar 19, 2012
Iwona wrote:
Many years ago I was diagnosed with H p. The doc prescribed me a strong dose of antibiotics. I went to a naturopath for a second opinion - he explained the side effects of antibiotics and prescribed me Aerobic Oxygen (Oxypure,)saying it would do the same job, but without side effects. My symptoms disappeared.
My symptoms have recently reappeared (17+ years later) but I'm sure that in my case they are stress related.
Before antibiotics were prescribed, I started taking Cell Food, which almost instantly helped me with my pain. Now since my pain has gone, I am hesitant to take the prescribed antibiotics. After reading all of your comments I am now really concerned and I am confused.
Why are you so hesitant to take antibiotics? Antibiotics are generally safe and the well known side effects are tolerable. If you end of in the emergency room with a serious life threatening infection, aren't they likely to give you antibiotics? what will you do? Refuse it at the expense of your life because there are side effects? The side effects of antibiotics are not usually life threatening, for a few persons may be. Try them and if you experience any side effects that you think you cannot tolerate then stop and speak with your doctor. If you think that they are not for you after that then it is up to you to decide your next step. Remember that the antibiotics have a well documented 80-90% cure rate as opposed to the herbal treatments where we do not even know what the cure rate is since there are no well documented statistics. Safer to stick to the scientific route where the information and statistics are readily available. WISH I HAD THE BETTER SENSE TO LOGICALLY ANALYZE THINGS LIKE THIS BEFORE. I would have been a lot happier.

Since: Oct 11

Kingstown, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines

#70 Mar 19, 2012
I do not care how many persons out there think I am clueless or nuts! I am a person who has had a very bad experience using a herbal nonsense called mastic gum and I have had my whole life destroyed by that decision.
shanna rowe

Montgomery, AL

#71 Mar 20, 2012
KassyS wrote:
I do not care how many persons out there think I am clueless or nuts! I am a person who has had a very bad experience using a herbal nonsense called mastic gum and I have had my whole life destroyed by that decision.
Thank you so much kassy... From all the advice you having given me! Very helpful...i am sticking out the meds though, so hopefully I will be back to normal soon. I think if any foreign bacteria gets in your body, it throws off your bodys natural functions, which is why some people experience different symptoms that they think are not related to the bacteria...h pylori is a challenge because it can cause you to feel very ill and its a struggle but somethings got to give. God is on his way. Please don't lose faith. My mother had gotten very sick back in 2009. She had a mini stroke and her high blood pressure was at death levels but she never lost her faith in God and he pulled her through! I know he will....i just hate feeling out of it!! Its annoying..
shanna rowe

Montgomery, AL

#72 Mar 20, 2012
KassyS wrote:
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People have different symptoms with h pylori so all those symptoms that you are having could very well be related. For me I had pains in my hands, burnings under my breast and in the breast and sometimes heart palpitations. YES stick to the antibiotics as long as the side effects are tolerable. If they cause you severe pains or shortness of breath or anything that can be considered lifethreatening then talk to your doctor. Outside of those stick to the antibiotics because that is the best way to treat the bacteria since these so called homeopathic and herbal remedies are not always safe for everyone and most of them do not even work or if they do they take much longer such as months to work. Stick with the antibiotics and watch what you eat. NO MILK, NO SUGAR, NO SODAS, NO CAFFEINE, NO SPICY FOOD. BLAND FOODS and lots of veggies. Drink lots of water long after you have taken the antibiotics. Don't drink too much water or liquid immediately after the antibiotics. Give them at least 90 minutes to soak into your stomach. Too much water at that time could weaken the strength. Just about a glass of cranberry juice with the antibiotic instead of water. Then after 90 mins of taking the antibiotics you can drink as much water as you want How much longer do you have to go before the antibiotics are finished?
IM just on my fourth day of treatment... The dosage of the antibiotics are very powerful. They have me taking a total of 3040 mg daily! The first side effect I experienced was a numbness in myb head! It happened immediately after I took the meds, it doesn't really do it anymore, I guess my body is starting to accept the antibiotics.. Last night I had a swelling sensation in my throat, I continuously swallowEd but it felt like something was stuck in my throat! I take it as the devil trying to defeat me! He wants me to stop pushing. He wants me to give up and lose my faith, ha! GET BEHIND ME SATIN!... SORRY ABOUT THE TYPOS, I'M REPLYING ON MY PHONE!
sophe

West Linton, UK

#73 Mar 20, 2012
KassyS wrote:
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So are you saying that if one takes probiotics with antibiotics simultaneously that the anti-biotics won't work? I know that I usually read that pro-biotics should be taken after the antibiotic treatment but then I never quite understood that if they are taken together with the anti-biotics that the anti-biotics will not work. I am confused though as to why doctors will tell persons to eat lots of yogurt during treatment. Aren't yogurts considered to be pro-biotics? Thanks
Hi,yogurt is a fermented milk product which is often tolerated well by people with sensitive digestions. It has certain naturally occurring probiotics (sic) which are unlikely to do anyone any harm or affect the antibiotics. Taking high doses of concentrated probiotics is a different matter altogether. It is akin to the difference between eating foods and taking drugs which claim to have extracted the food's active ingredients!! Yogurt has been around for centuries and people are well adapted to eating it. Probiotic tablet are an invention of the last few decades for which there is no control tested clinical support.
shanna rowe

Montgomery, AL

#74 Mar 20, 2012
Why does my throat feel so swoll? Its a heavy feeling, in my chest, also. Is this normal?

Since: Oct 11

Kingstown, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines

#75 Mar 20, 2012
shanna rowe wrote:
Why does my throat feel so swoll? Its a heavy feeling, in my chest, also. Is this normal?
It can be a reaction to the h pylori infection or the anti-biotic. If you don't feel comfortable with the feeling then see your doctor. Is it tolerable or do you find it extremely unbearable?
shanna rowe

Montgomery, AL

#76 Mar 20, 2012
My God. I don't know. I guess its tolerable. Whenever I swallow it feels like a big steak..

Since: Oct 11

Kingstown, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines

#77 Mar 20, 2012
shanna rowe wrote:
My God. I don't know. I guess its tolerable. Whenever I swallow it feels like a big steak..
If it's tolerable just stick it out to the end because the alternatives are not safe. Just continue to pray and ask for strength to deal with the symptoms. Once the bacteria is gone you will be on the mend. Just work on getting it killed.
Larry

Prescott, AZ

#78 Mar 20, 2012
shanna rowe wrote:
My God. I don't know. I guess its tolerable. Whenever I swallow it feels like a big steak..
Hi Shanna,

I have read your post's and know what you are going through. I finished my course of meds on 1/02/12 and I still am not feeling well. Please don't take it as a discouragement as others do fine by taking the antibiotics.

I had a "Maloney dilator size #60 French" done to me, in laymens terms, my esophagus was dilated, cause I complained about it feeling like I swallowed a big steak..along with burning, something moving inside and all the other bad side effects.

The saving grace of this bacteria (worm), is and has been God. I have had other health issues going on and not once did I really put my mind into God. Yes, I had said thank you Jesus or Thanks to God but those were just words.

This HP stuff really did save my eternal life, I have had to many questions answered and have been shown God's love from other christians. Each day something new is reveled to me and I really do know what Jesus Christ did for me.
I understand this passage and I do not want this to happen for eternity.

Mark 9:44 "Where their worm dies not, and the fire is not quenched"

Keep praying
Racheal

Denver, CO

#79 Mar 21, 2012
It all sounds normal to me as far as what I went through. Keep coming to these forums for encouragement as so many of use know you pain and fears. I pray it will be a short journey for you but regardless God will see you through. God does work through medicine and give doctors wisdom and knowledge. Although he might have skipped my doctor for some reason. Lol
shanna rowe wrote:
My God. Idon't know. I guess its tolerable. Whenever I swallow it feels like a big steak..
Sultana

UK

#80 Mar 21, 2012
Hi guys can anyone tell me if siberian pine nut oil is effective for H.Pylori?

Since: Oct 11

Kingstown, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines

#81 Mar 21, 2012
Sultana wrote:
Hi guys can anyone tell me if siberian pine nut oil is effective for H.Pylori?
No it is not! Use the antibiotics and follow your doctor's orders. Do not get caught up with the hype of these natural products. Unless you are allergic to antibiotics please seriously use them.It may take 2 treatments before you can get rid of it, but they do work. Just because you see some comments about ppl using them 2 times and they still have h pylori does not mean that you will have the same outcome.I got caught up in that belief and destroyed my life by using mastic gum. DO not go down that road. TALK TO YOUR DOCTOR!
Sultana

UK

#82 Mar 21, 2012
KassyS wrote:
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No it is not! Use the antibiotics and follow your doctor's orders. Do not get caught up with the hype of these natural products. Unless you are allergic to antibiotics please seriously use them.It may take 2 treatments before you can get rid of it, but they do work. Just because you see some comments about ppl using them 2 times and they still have h pylori does not mean that you will have the same outcome.I got caught up in that belief and destroyed my life by using mastic gum. DO not go down that road. TALK TO YOUR DOCTOR!
Hi kassy iv already had two courses of antibiotics, my last breath test showed that i was H.Pylori negative. So yes maybe the antibiotics have worked but my symptoms are still there. Perhaps due to poor diet or the fact that i chew tobacco.This oil that iv ordered can also be used for cooking, and other illnesses, says the sales person. Il just give it a try for a few days and keep you updated on the progression. As for mastic gum, it's been successful on plenty of people with H.Pylori, so maybe its not for everyone. Sorry it wasnt as effective on you...Are u taking antibiotics now?

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