What do you do if your boss is one an...

What do you do if your boss is one and you cannot tell them but know they are!

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RKOUL

Since: Dec 05

Plymouth Meeting, PA

#1 Jan 27, 2006
Recent personal episodes with a supervisor, watching them over a two year period, before it came to an end, makes me wonder how can you help such people besides helping yourself and your co-workers.

Constant misleading public, misrepresenting facts, being openly vindictive, exhibiting extraordinary unbelievable private behvior, while being publicly a friendly smiling person. So this leads to no one believing even when you report to human resources or to superiors (public safety issue!). This personal encounter while it was shocking, was not alarming as it reminded me of a hindi movie (Arman, a schrozophrenic patient, destroying doctor's life and even letting a person die in the process by manipulating and destroying patient file).

I think place of employment should make some provision in ascertaining strange behavior of superiors that can threaten safety, sanity and livelihood of its employees. In my case the boss with questionable mental status (in my experience and by their own admission one time during the process) succeeded in terminating me. I am glad it was me and not anyone else, situation would have taken a violent shape as well. However, the supervisor's do have a control on the situation when they can document and terminate subordinates such bizzarre behavior. Can the schrizophrenic boss be running loose from job to job and not be reported, better yet laid to rest and treated for this condition. The big question is how do you tell your children, you may be working for a schrizophrenic/bipolar boss and be nice, keep the job (even when they do not let you do your job) and smile! It is scary. There needs to be a public policy in place.
RKOUL

Since: Dec 05

Plymouth Meeting, PA

#2 Jan 27, 2006
RKOUL wrote:
Recent personal episodes with a supervisor, watching them over a two year period, before it came to an end, makes me wonder how can you help such people besides helping yourself and your co-workers. This is a case of dealing with a bipolar/schrizophrenic boss by all accounts of observation in private behavior)

Constant misleading public, misrepresenting facts, being openly vindictive, exhibiting extraordinary unbelievable private behvior, while being publicly a friendly smiling person. So this leads to no one believing even when you report to human resources or to superiors (public safety issue!). This personal encounter while it was shocking, was not alarming as it reminded me of a hindi movie (Arman, a schrozophrenic patient, destroying doctor's life and even letting a person die in the process by manipulating and destroying patient file).

I think place of employment should make some provision in ascertaining strange behavior of superiors that can threaten safety, sanity and livelihood of its employees. In my case the boss with questionable mental status (in my experience and by their own admission one time during the process) succeeded in terminating me. I am glad it was me and not anyone else, situation would have taken a violent shape as well. However, the supervisor's do have a control on the situation when they can document and terminate subordinates such bizzarre behavior. Can the schrizophrenic boss be running loose from job to job and not be reported, better yet laid to rest and treated for this condition. The big question is how do you tell your children, you may be working for a schrizophrenic/bipolar boss and be nice, keep the job (even when they do not let you do your job) and smile! It is scary. There needs to be a public policy in place.
Does public have protection at work place where there boss is acting in a way that you have only one clinical explanation: bipolar/schrizophrenic or simply vindictive. How do you differentiate? and better yet who do you report if none else wants to own this situation and correct it. How do you help the person and make sure no other employee has to go through this what you experience.......on and on. Is quitting a job or being fired is the only way or is there something more we could do. That is the question for mental health and public health community. Would like people to comment and suggest what they can do.
mary

Glendale Heights, IL

#3 Mar 26, 2006
how do you tell your boss's boss they are nuts
Jael

AOL

#4 Apr 2, 2007
Or, what do you do if your boss's bosses know he's nuts but don't have the balls to do anything about it? My boss has had affairs with subordinates, withheld financial information from the board, is a control freak, routinely calls people into his office and shuts the door then ambushes them. You'll just be minding your own business, doing your job, and all of a sudden it's like you step on a land mine and he yells at you for something completely unfounded. You just never know when you're going to get smacked. He can be totally hateful one minute, then the next minute he will be your knight in shining armor to save the day. It feels like a wife-beater cycle. I filed a complaint on him and he was counseled, but that only worked for awhile. He then started retaliating against me. I am keeping a written record of everything he does to me. He has a notorious reputation for being a jerk. He is paranoid too. The mood swings are the worst. I go into work every day not knowing what to expect, and I get so worked up it gives me nausea, heartburn and diarrhea. I am looking for another job. I actually called in sick today just because I did not want to deal with him. He has got to be bipolar or something.
blue2

Wareham, MA

#5 Jan 19, 2008
Hey, here's a new take on the situation. I have been in a new job for 7 mos. It is a very small buisness and there is just one other secretary and me. The boss/owner is always around as the office is in her private home. I actually have bi-polar type 2 disorder that is well managed with meds. I have more lows than highs. I have a 22 yr old son with schizophrenia, also well managed. He is going to be re-entering the work force and I am so proud of him! My boss on the other hand is so off the wall and obviously bi-polar type 1!! She has OCD so bad complete with checking rituals. The problem is she commands me and the other girl to do all the "checking" for her and it is insane. She will have us call the same customer 3 times in one day and ask the same question in different ways. She can be crying on the couch in the morning (yes, the couch is in the office and that is her desk!!) and then maniacally laughing in the afternoon while we are on the phone. It is soooo embarrassing. She had me ride around with her for about 4 weeks stalking a boyfriend of her teenage daughter to see if he was cheating. Finally, I told her I am done with that and it wasn't normal. I did tell her that I thought she was bi-polar and she did not agree. Coming from a place of recovery myself and seeing my son fight his way back after 4 years I have no patience for her. It irritates me to no end that this person calls everybody else crazy. I need to work but I really am afraid she could become violent if she get's psychotic. This nut job has me fold her personal laundry if the phones get quiet so she isn't paying me to just sit there. She even had me clean the office bathroom right after she handed me our christmas bonus!!! Manipulative to the max! I know I need to get out of there. I just have to find a normal place to work. Right now being the Walmart greeter is starting to look good to me.!!
lossing it

United States

#6 Feb 18, 2010
I told my bipolar boss that he is verbally abusive and I can't take it anymore. His reaction: suspend me for 3 days without pay. Today is day two. People are telling me to go back to work (after the three days) and let him fire me so I can get unemployment. But of course, now he wants to make up. I can't take his mood swings anymore, but I do like my job. Any suggestions?
freelanceman

West Palm Beach, FL

#7 Jul 3, 2010
I've Had bipolar boss, the realization came after few months of employment, because majority of bipolar individuals only demonstrate their mood swings around people who they can relax around and trust, at first I've noticed the boss/owner begun to act in rage about trivial things on the meetings, or take it "over the top". Then I've noticed him blaming few same employees (including me) for minor things that happen in the office that has no relevance to our work. Each episode included drama and rage for hours at the time, it was extremely stressful work environment, everyone who was involved felt tense. Human resource manager did nothing because the bipolar douche was the owner, I was advised to quit!!

So what to do in this case?

-Option 1. collect petition from number of abused employees and start a Union (if you really like your job).
-Option 2. Note the problem in writing on behalf of staff (if majority of staff has the same problem).
-Option 3. Bring it up on team meeting on behalf of entire staff (after discussing it with all the effected members, make sure you have recorded every such incident in writing).
-Option 4. Contact Department of Labor to open a complaint/investigation case on Employees abuse. make sure to keep it fact based, and very detailed. If the case will have enough momentum there will be an investigation/inspection.
(note: you'll NOT be immune from being fired, unless the case is very serious and has other members making the same complaint, however if it will found out that it is true, the company will be red-flagged for further investigation and penalization for unacceptable treatment of workforce.)
anonymous

Norman, OK

#8 Dec 31, 2012
My boss is bi-polar - have seen the medical records and diagnosis. Everyone seems to know this person isn't stable, but not one has the authority to do anything about it. You can't try to show them that they just gave you instructions opposite from what they're saying now - this person cannot accept ever being wrong about anything and you don't know when there will be a blow up. There is nothing I can do but take the abuse. I haven't been there long and a short term job will look awful on my resume. And if anyone calls this person for a reference, I'll be tarred as the worst employee ever. I completely understand the person who called in sick rather than go in to work. It is like walking in a landmine field. It is a hostile work environment but good luck on winning that one. When you're the employee and they are the boss, you're going to lose your job and be lucky if their bad reference doesn't follow you forever. How do explain to future employers that your boss was crazy, everyone knew it, and no one did anything about it? It makes you sound paranoid and crazy as well.

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