Bill lets Mich. towns decide on restaurant smoking

[u cannot own me]

TruthBeTold wrote:

<quoted text>So this is the best answer you could come up with?
Lets talk about being brainwashed....years and years of big tobacco telling you to smoke....telling you that you should "walk a mile for a cancer stick", or that famous ad "I'd step over my dying mother for a puff", are nothing but twisted manipulation of your mind.
That along with the 600 or so chemicals that are infused in the tobacco leaves JUST SO you are further hooked on their product as a life long consumer.
They (big tobacco) found a recipe of chemicals that have locked-in so many people, preying on their weak minded will power and desperate habitual addiction in continuing this product, regardless of personal or public health and safety issues relating to this product.
Wanna talk about sheep....sheep are those who are unable to think for themselves and simply cannot put down the very thing that makes them so unhappy in the big picture which is smoking.
You hate it, but you are not mentally strong enough to fight the unyielding need to do it. You are an addict and you know it, you hate it, but you are a slave to the tobacco companies, and the best part is....you cannot even admit it. lmao!
Brainwashed sheep are those who resort to (and continue)ingesting chemically laced tobacco leaves...and pretend its normal!

LMAO at the known brainwashed liar sheeple without a brain of its own

[Sheri]

TruthBeTold wrote:

<quoted text>My goodness...your whole Modus operandi is about derailing, distracting, and deferring conversations.
It seems the smoking side is unable to muster up a very rational or sustainable fight so you all seem to resort to this level of deferment!
Your big ole (and strange) diatribe on Christianity in an effort to pull attention off of the Muslim Army major, who you and others claimed, went off because of the fact he was an ex-smoker and taking chantix, which was yet another effort to derail another discussion about the "ills" of smoking!
People with the level of A.D.D that we are seeing displayed here in the smokers, should likely be taking something like Ritalin.

I believe it was your rant against the Muslim religion that started the conversation.

[u cannot own me]

TruthBeTold wrote:

<quoted text>The bill is fine how it is.
People should decide in their own communities what is best for them.
We do not need some out of touch individual to operate a sort of "methadone clinic", in order to prey on the likes of those addicts who are unable to think for themselves, rather have big tobacco think for them!
The masses are speaking...and they are saying a big old NO to smoking!

you are such a good little brainwashed hypochondriac soldier

[u cannot own me]

TruthBeTold wrote:

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Your big ole (and strange) diatribe on Christianity in an effort to pull attention off of the Muslim Army major, who you and others claimed, went off because of the fact he was an ex-smoker and taking chantix, which was yet another effort to derail another discussion about the "ills" of smoking!

ypu just can't quit lying can you, must be your nature. I never mention anything about Muslims smoking or not smoking lol, its all in your head. BTW, you started the whole Muslim crap with your big blast the Muslim bit. Oh, I did not mention Chantix either. Liars like you cannot be trusted

[u cannot own me]

discusseded wrote:

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And smoking during pregnancy causes it!
http://www.nature.com/oby/journal/vaop/ncurre...

WOW, its not the calories so kids can stuff themselves with calories, sugar and fatty foods galore and not gain weight ..er, that is if their mum didn't smoke. WOW, anti smoking stupidity galore!!

[BleuJei]

Wow....People would rather engage in "one upmanship" than to seek mutual ground to walk on together.

We are truly a very self-centered and vindictive society.

TTFN

[discusseded]

Perspective, please, folks.

PreachingToTheGarbage wrote:

Obesity responsible for 100,000 cancer cases annually

discusseded wrote:

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And smoking during pregnancy causes it!
http://www.nature.com/oby/journal/vaop/ncurre...

u cannot own me wrote:

LOL at the brainwashed sheeple without its own brain

TruthBeTold wrote:

<quoted text>So this is the best answer you could come up with?

My contribution to this was intended as HUMOR, for cryin' out loud.

Nevertheless, it WAS a way to bring us back to the topic of the forum. My linking topic has its own thread, if anyone wants to do that particular discussion.

http://www.topix.net/forum/health/smoking/TES...

[discusseded]

BleuJei wrote:

Wow....People would rather engage in "one upmanship" than to seek mutual ground to walk on together.
We are truly a very self-centered and vindictive society.
TTFN

I have no problem with walking together, as long as no one is (or has just been) smoking. At least, none beyond my problems with walking generally.

[discusseded]

It looks like Wisconsin's law will also preclude extended local protections. That law hasn't gone into effect yet, but someone sneaked a preemption clause into it, so if the locals want the right to address local needs they will have to go through the same sort of thrashing around that Michigan is now.

[PreachingToTheGa rbage]

discusseded wrote:

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I have no problem with walking together, as long as no one is (or has just been) smoking. At least, none beyond my problems with walking generally.

Ok lets go take a walk thru Arlington National Cemetery and we can discuss how you have forced million of American to bow too your demands to give up there freedom to choose.

[u cannot own me]

discusseded wrote:

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I have no problem with walking together, as long as no one is (or has just been) smoking. At least, none beyond my problems with walking generally.

I like walking with my cigarette more than you.. although I don't walk the streets smoking..but hey, I just don't like you and your type

[u cannot own me]

Honesty above all!!

[TruthBeTold]

u cannot own me wrote:

<quoted text>LMAO at the known brainwashed liar sheeple without a brain of its own

Yet another high quality reply from "u cannot expect me to be honest...I SMOKE"!

[TruthBeTold]

Sheri wrote:

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I believe it was your rant against the Muslim religion that started the conversation.

You better read back...and this time...lets keep it in context!

[TruthBeTold]

u cannot own me wrote:

<quoted text>you are such a good little brainwashed hypochondriac soldier

And yet another great post....What happened did you run out of OTHER peoples stuff to copy paste...we know you are incapable of your own thoughts and rational thinking.

But this line of posts are some of your worst nonsense!

[TruthBeTold]

u cannot own me wrote:

Honesty above all!!

Something that seems to escape you...but we cannot really blame you linda...you are in denial, which is a sickness that is protection mechanism that is used to protect you from your own addiction.

Honesty and denial do not work together so well...but a few of us are here to turn the light on, so that the conversation topic stays "real"!

[TruthBeTold]

Local governments should be able to ban smoking in restaurants and bars...why...because big tobacco and their hired henchmen have done their job well, and stalled effort at the state level to ban smoking...regardless of what the masses want.

The bill would let each county, city, township and village decide if people can smoke in local bars and restaurants, why is this good...because each municipality knows what they need in their boundaries.
A private citizen is not allowed to decide what is best for that community, the elected officials who are hired by the people are put their to do that.
That is the main reason we have inspection departments, regulations, rules, and ordinances to name a few...all there to follow a process that meets the criteria required to follow what the citizens want as well as what is good for the "common" good!

Another reason the private citizen cannot just do as they please, is in its simplest form is to prevent some ding dong who does not meet minimum requirements to just start selling liquor without meeting the state and communities guidelines for obtaining the license.

Health advocates also agree customers and restaurant workers should be protected from secondhand smoke.

[u cannot own me]

TruthBeTold wrote:

<quoted text>And yet another great post....What happened did you run out of OTHER peoples stuff to copy paste...we know you are incapable of your own thoughts and rational thinking.
But this line of posts are some of your worst nonsense!

you are such a good little brainwashed hypochondriac soldier

[u cannot own me]

TruthBeTold wrote:

Health advocates also agree customers and restaurant workers should be protected from secondhand smoke.

what a total fraud, if they were honest about protecting employees they would ban all business from being open and the public inflicting the employees with germs, communicable diseases, colds flu's etc.

Protecting employees is a big fraud and the employees are being used for the anti smoking agenda

[TruthBeTold]

u cannot own me wrote:

<quoted text> what a total fraud, if they were honest about protecting employees they would ban all business from being open and the public inflicting the employees with germs, communicable diseases, colds flu's etc.
Protecting employees is a big fraud and the employees are being used for the anti smoking agenda

They take the necessary level of precaution...you just don't worry about it!

;o)