Insurance for legal immigrants stripped

[Surrounded by idiots]

Amused wrote:
"One of the steps to becoming a citizen is time. You have to live here for at least 5 years as a permanent resident alien before you can apply. Part of living here for that time is taking care of your and your family's health. Many immigrants work at low-paying jobs where the employer does not offer health insurance. How are these people supposed to survive while they wait to become eligible for citizenship? Sorry, your kids can't see a pediatrician for 5 years until you become a citizen?..."

OK, I was born here my children were born here. I pay hundreds for health insurance and I have to tell my kids they can't see a pediatrician because I can not afford the co-pays and deductables. If the state doesn't care about my kids, why should I care about the immigrants kids?

[Common Sense]

Why is it they want to take away the insurance for LEGAL immigrants who entered this country lawfully...but give tuition breaks to ILLEGAL immigrants who by admission broke the law to get here and then drain our country's resources?

[Wondering]

Surrounded by idiots wrote:

OK, I was born here my children were born here. I pay hundreds for health insurance and I have to tell my kids they can't see a pediatrician because I can not afford the co-pays and deductables. If the state doesn't care about my kids, why should I care about the immigrants kids?

Who you care about is your business. These are LEGAL immigrants that work and pay taxes just like you do. Because they work and pay taxes they are entitled to the same representation that you get. Whether it was your parents or their parents or their parents, somewhere along the line it was immigrants that made it possible for you to be born here.

[Amused]

Surrounded by idiots wrote:

Amused wrote:
"One of the steps to becoming a citizen is time. You have to live here for at least 5 years as a permanent resident alien before you can apply. Part of living here for that time is taking care of your and your family's health. Many immigrants work at low-paying jobs where the employer does not offer health insurance. How are these people supposed to survive while they wait to become eligible for citizenship? Sorry, your kids can't see a pediatrician for 5 years until you become a citizen?..."
OK, I was born here my children were born here. I pay hundreds for health insurance and I have to tell my kids they can't see a pediatrician because I can not afford the co-pays and deductables. If the state doesn't care about my kids, why should I care about the immigrants kids?

Immigrants pay the same co-pays and deductibles as you. The plans are based on income, not immigration status. Either you have the wrong insurance plan for your family's needs, or you need to get a job.

[hoodie]

Surrounded by idiots wrote:

This is so wrong - those that have gone through the correct procedures to come here LEGALLY are getting the shaft. Let alone the fact that those of us born here get nothing. But those ILLEGALLY here can get all the benefits they want.
What a slap in the face!
Why doesn't our Government see this?
I've heard they do it for the votes - don't you have to be a LEGAL Citizen to vote?
Someone let me know when the Revolution is to begin I want to be in the front line.

It starts today---Charlie Baker just announced he is running for Governor.

[Musty Mike]

So Stop Say "Me so smart!"

[Someone]

I guess we're in a community of a bunch of people that can't read. And I'm not talking about the illegals. It says legal immigrants. Learn to read, morons. Oh yeah, this country is a country full of immigrants. Everyone here is a descendant of an immigrant or did you fail in history class because you guys were illiterate?

[so stop]

Musty Mike wrote:

So Stop Say "Me so smart!"

By far you are an _____! If you are so smart fill in the blank. Before you mock others just realize that you're lack of knowledge is excused.
Get the drift?

[so stop]

*your not you're***

[i need money]

immigrants without health isurance........well they wanted to know what it feels like to be an american..... NOW YOU KNOW

[Surrounded by idiots]

Amused wrote:

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Immigrants pay the same co-pays and deductibles as you. The plans are based on income, not immigration status. Either you have the wrong insurance plan for your family's needs, or you need to get a job.

I do have a job, that is how I get my health insurance. And no it is not the same - those on state health insurance have much smaller copays and most do not pay deductibles.
For instance, I pay for Blue Cross and know someone that gets Blue Cross through the state the copays are different and they do not have a deductible to pay either.
Yes, the plans are based on income but the plans are also at a better rate than those of us paying for it through an employer.
Get off the state assistance and you might know the difference.

[Surrounded by idiots]

Wondering wrote:

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Who you care about is your business. These are LEGAL immigrants that work and pay taxes just like you do. Because they work and pay taxes they are entitled to the same representation that you get. Whether it was your parents or their parents or their parents, somewhere along the line it was immigrants that made it possible for you to be born here.

Yes, somewhere along the line someone in my family was an immigrant.
But guess what? they never recieved any state or government assistance. I do not understand why these people now believe they are entitled to anything. You either work hard for what you get or you get nothing, that is the way it should still be!

[Amused]

Surrounded by idiots wrote:

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I do have a job, that is how I get my health insurance. And no it is not the same - those on state health insurance have much smaller copays and most do not pay deductibles.
For instance, I pay for Blue Cross and know someone that gets Blue Cross through the state the copays are different and they do not have a deductible to pay either.
Yes, the plans are based on income but the plans are also at a better rate than those of us paying for it through an employer.
Get off the state assistance and you might know the difference.

Co-pays and deductibles vary from employer to employer, and are partly dependent on the size of the group being insured. If you work for a small company, one person in your small group getting very sick is a major hit for the group experience. Expect an unpleasant surprise. In a big group, the impact is diluted. Likewise, some employers buy the cheapest plan they can, with high copays and deductibles, caps on coverage, etc. to cut costs as much as possible. Some employers spend more to buy a better policy for their employees. This is more common in fields where there are shortages of skilled workers. In order to compete for workers, they offer a better fringe benefit package. Makes it hard to do apples to apples comparisons with any confidence, because health insurance policies are customized for each group. Your Blue Cross policy might be less attractive than the state plan, but the company down the street from you might have a much better plan than either yours or the state's.

[LowellContrarian]

Surrounded by idiots wrote:

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Yes, somewhere along the line someone in my family was an immigrant.
But guess what? they never recieved any state or government assistance. I do not understand why these people now believe they are entitled to anything. You either work hard for what you get or you get nothing, that is the way it should still be!

That's because it's likely those benefits weren't there for them. They came for the chance to work and seek the American dream. Our government since FDR has created this problem of entitlement. The American dream is to sit on your arse and collect a paycheck. There is no problem with immigration in this country it's our Government that's the problem. Rid this country of social programs that allow generation after generation to suck off the taxpayers teat and you'll get a different type of immigrant and I have no problem with them.

[Okay]

LowellContrarian wrote:

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That's because it's likely those benefits weren't there for them. They came for the chance to work and seek the American dream. Our government since FDR has created this problem of entitlement. The American dream is to sit on your arse and collect a paycheck. There is no problem with immigration in this country it's our Government that's the problem. Rid this country of social programs that allow generation after generation to **** off the taxpayers teat and you'll get a different type of immigrant and I have no problem with them.

Really well said that sums it up.