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States divergent in plans for health care ruling

There are 9 comments on the The Wichita Eagle story from Jun 27, 2012, titled States divergent in plans for health care ruling. In it, The Wichita Eagle reports that:

A view of the Supreme Court in Washington, Wednesday, June 27, 2012. Saving its biggest case for last, the Supreme Court is expected to announce its verdict Thursday on President Barack Obama's health care law.

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Since: Nov 08

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#1 Jun 27, 2012
Obama the socialist does it again. Soon we will be just as bad off as socialist Europe thanks to Obama and his Hollywood friends.
GOPher Broke

Philadelphia, PA

#2 Jun 27, 2012
So what's your plan 8man???
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Pretty soon there won't be enough people with insurance to subsidize those without...
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and then you let 'em die I suppose...
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the only trouble is sick people have a nasty habit...
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they often take some of us otherwise healthy folks with 'em...
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Investment Bankers in NYC aren't going to like it much when some homeless guy coughs drug resistant TB all over their $2000 suit...
grab a cold butttttttt

Fishers, IN

#3 Jun 27, 2012
Eighthman wrote:
Obama the socialist does it again. Soon we will be just as bad off as socialist Europe thanks to Obama and his Hollywood friends.
3Am-06-28-2012.com/suprise+court9;-000h , can U hearing now;)
grab a cold butttttttt

Fishers, IN

#4 Jun 27, 2012
goood9 bibye! see ya alll 2morrow.....(more)....;-00

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#5 Jun 27, 2012
GOPher Broke wrote:
So what's your plan 8man???
.
Pretty soon there won't be enough people with insurance to subsidize those without...
.
and then you let 'em die I suppose...
.
the only trouble is sick people have a nasty habit...
.
they often take some of us otherwise healthy folks with 'em...
.
Investment Bankers in NYC aren't going to like it much when some homeless guy coughs drug resistant TB all over their $2000 suit...
Be careful what you wish for. It's always greener over the septic tank. I have yet to meet ANYONE who has ever been turned away from a hospital when they got sick. Not one person ever. Especially with TB.

Since: May 11

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#6 Jun 28, 2012
GOPher Broke wrote:
So what's your plan 8man???
.
Pretty soon there won't be enough people with insurance to subsidize those without...
.
and then you let 'em die I suppose...
.
the only trouble is sick people have a nasty habit...
.
they often take some of us otherwise healthy folks with 'em...
.
Investment Bankers in NYC aren't going to like it much when some homeless guy coughs drug resistant TB all over their $2000 suit...
Exactly. You wait until their employers start cutting back on healthcare insurance, making employees pick up 60 or 7% of the cost, or offering nothing but cut-rate plans that are worthless. They'll all be screaming bloody murder. Wait until the insurance companies start making overweight people pay more. And who is the judge of 'overweight'? By the BMI of today, nearly everyone is overweight. Wait until they charge you more for the injuries you sustained in a car accident where you are at fault. Wait until they charge you more if your blood sugar or cholesterol is up. Wait until you are FORCED by your insurance company to have a blood pressure of 120/80 or pay more for coverage. Wait until the healthcare insurer of a prospective employer can say yes or no to you being hired for a job. Wait until employer-based healthcare insurance can turn you down for coverage because you have a past medical history. Wait until most everyone over the age of 40 will be struggling to afford or get health insurance.

Americans don't think these things are possible, but they don't realize these things are closer than anyone realizes. Once employers get the green light to do whatever they please to save costs on health insurance, millions of us will be screwed. And Mr. Businessman Romney is just the guy to give that green light.

We need to be worried. The future is not bright for most Americans. We need to start thinking about what's best for US, and making sure that we aren't left high and dry with nothing but a memory of the good 'ol days.

Since: May 11

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#7 Jun 28, 2012
Eighthman wrote:
<quoted text>Be careful what you wish for. It's always greener over the septic tank. I have yet to meet ANYONE who has ever been turned away from a hospital when they got sick. Not one person ever. Especially with TB.
You can't possibly be so naive.

I work in a pediatric emergency department. Yes, you are 100% correct. No one can be turned away from an ED. Have you ever heard the term "treated and streeted"? That's what emergency medicine is for those who have no way to pay.

Let's say you bring your kid in because he's having excrutiating headaches. You have no form of payment, but we'll gladly do what we can to help. We'll examine you child. Is he vomiting? Running a fever? If so, could be a virus. Take him home, give him some Tylenol, put him to bed. Follow up with your PCP. End of story. We'll send you a bill you'll ignore and we'll write it off.

Did he fall down? Could he possibly have a head injury? Gotta have a CT scan because we can't miss him maybe having a bleed. That'll cost several hundred dollars alone, and if we do see an injury he'll be admitted for a neurology workup. This could cost several hundred to several thousand dollars. Money WE will never see, but we can't let your kid die or you'd sue the hell out of us.

Let's say we suspect your kid has a brain tumor. This is best part because we can give your kid some pain medication and send you on your way. We've done our part. Your kid is in no immediate danger even though he will die without further cancer treatment. But that's where YOU'RE screwed. See, we don't have have to provide that. And good luck finding an oncologist and neurologist who will take on if you can't pay them. They're not bound by law to treat you like we are in the ED.

If you truly can't afford insurance, chances are your state will pick up the cost of your child's medical care, which could go into the hundreds of thousands of dollars (thanks taxpayers). But what states do for children they rarely do for adults. So if this brain tumor were yours or your spouse's, you might find yourself sick with no where to go and no one to help you. Especially if you aren't destitute. If you have a house, a car, money in the bank, things you've worked for your whole life...you will have shed thought things BEFORE you can qualify for Medicaid.

It happens every day. This is AMERICA. One of the richest nations on earth. Healthcare shouldn't even be an issue. It shouldn't even be a discussion. Except for the selfish and the greedy who have no thoughts for anyone but themselves and the fools who believe nothing bad with ever befall them the rest of us realize healthcare in America is a joke and needs some serious treatment of its own.
Obama Bin Lyin-

Sierra Vista, AZ

#8 Jun 28, 2012
That's what happens when your a product of a dumbed down liberal educational system that spews out socialist pap - never mind that they have no reference point of the past, let alone history in general. Hell, most of the schools in this country no longer teach "civics" either. Is it no wonder we have a bunch of adoring drones of O'bismal?

http://www.abajournal.com/magazine/article/ci...

This governments track record of being fiscally astute with our money.....<wink>

a.. The U.S. Postal Service was established in 1910. You have had 102 years to get it right and it is broke.

b.. Social Security was established in 1935. You have had 77 years to get it right and it is broke.

c.. Fannie Mae was established in 1938. You have had 74 years to get it right and it is broke.

d.. War on Poverty started in 1964. You have had 48 years to get it right; $1 trillion of our money is confiscated each year and transferred to "the poor" and they only want more.

e.. Medicare and Medicaid were established in 1965. You have had 47 years to get it right and they are broke.

f.. Freddie Mac was established in 1970. You have had 42 years to get it right and it is broke.

g.. The Department of Energy was created in 1977 to lessen our dependence on foreign oil. It has ballooned to 16,000 employees with a budget of $24 billion a year and we import more oil than ever before. You had 35 years to get it right and it is an abysmal failure.

Not to mention all the programs that the empty suit has initiated, such as his green energy fiasco's which have gone down the black holes of regret..

You have FAILED in every "government service" you have shoved down our throats while overspending our tax dollars.

AND YOU WANT AMERICANS TO BELIEVE GOVERNMENT CAN BE TRUSTED WITH A GOVERNMENT-RUN HEALTH CARE SYSTEM?? Only glycol infested morons out of their feeble minds would believe that tripe.....

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#9 Jun 28, 2012
Healthcare law upheld!!!!!!!!!!

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