Newtown families urge Starbucks CEO t...

Newtown families urge Starbucks CEO to ban guns from stores

There are 25 comments on the New York Daily News story from Aug 23, 2013, titled Newtown families urge Starbucks CEO to ban guns from stores. In it, New York Daily News reports that:

The letter asks for a meeting at a Newtown Starbucks between the families of Sandy Hook victims and Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz.

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americanvoter55

Newnan, GA

#1 Aug 23, 2013
This just in...gun owners urge Starbucks to ban Newton families from store
Bruce VB

Springfield, NJ

#2 Aug 23, 2013
Ct politicians using those 26 innocent lives as a diversion and for photo ops. Meanwhile we tolerate over taxation, over regulation, massive entitlement spending, no job creation, and warm fuzzy do nothing legislation passed behind closed doors without due process! Malloy, Murphy, and Blumenthal truly believe we the people must be ruled because we lack their superior intellect and know not what is best for us. Wise up Ct. before we all get thrown under Bloomberg's bus!
CTM

New Milford, CT

#3 Aug 23, 2013
I'll have a shot of expresso:) Be sure to iclude Feinstein and Schumer in that short list.

“Pompous pontificator”

Since: Jun 08

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#4 Aug 23, 2013
Even as a gun rights/personal freedom advocate, I see no problem here. Businesses can choose to exclude guns from their stores, and gun owners are free to spend their money anywhere they choose.

Most fast food chains serve coffee, and it's a sure thing some others will gladly take business from Starbucks if they don't want the business of some good citizens. I think Starbucks is overrated and overpriced anyway. Freedom is a double-edged sword and businesses are free to make stupid decisions and suffer from them. This is known as free enterprise.

Gun aficionados pressuring a business to allow guns is no different than some other group pressuring them to ban them. I know some will disagree based on a rationalization, but freedom works both ways. Your freedom ends at the doorstep of private property. You cannot presume to carry into the home of another man. Nor can you presume to do I in another man's business.

I belong to a group of guys who meet on Sat mornings at a FF place. When we stopped preferring one place, we just took ourselves and our money to another one.
Gun Control Does Not Work

United States

#5 Aug 24, 2013
Already made one Saturday morning trip to Starbucks today. Thanks for helping protect our freedom.
another look

Coos Bay, OR

#6 Aug 24, 2013
Bubbletoes wrote:
Even as a gun rights/personal freedom advocate, I see no problem here. Businesses can choose to exclude guns from their stores, and gun owners are free to spend their money anywhere they choose.
Most fast food chains serve coffee, and it's a sure thing some others will gladly take business from Starbucks if they don't want the business of some good citizens. I think Starbucks is overrated and overpriced anyway. Freedom is a double-edged sword and businesses are free to make stupid decisions and suffer from them. This is known as free enterprise.
Gun aficionados pressuring a business to allow guns is no different than some other group pressuring them to ban them. I know some will disagree based on a rationalization, but freedom works both ways. Your freedom ends at the doorstep of private property. You cannot presume to carry into the home of another man. Nor can you presume to do I in another man's business.
I belong to a group of guys who meet on Sat mornings at a FF place. When we stopped preferring one place, we just took ourselves and our money to another one.
I can presume in Oregon unless the owner posts a sign. Fed agencies, hospitals, courts, are standard non-carry areas for the law-abiding citizen and free fire areas for criminals.
anonymous

Lafayette, IN

#7 Aug 24, 2013
NEWS BULLETIN
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CTM

New Milford, CT

#8 Aug 24, 2013
anonymous wrote:
NEWS BULLETIN
This just in :
FUCK OFF !!!
This message brought to you by the good people at the
NeWtOwn Coalition for Corporate Welfare And Political Corruption.
Paid for by the blood of billions murdered by the illuminati .
Not affiliated with the Commercial Broadcasters Propaganda Union nor its representatives.
..........So that's the name of the Ct. politicians fund:) I think the slogan is "If it's illegal, don't worry. We'll pas a law and make it legal, we are , after all, the government"!

“Constitutionist/ SAF”

Since: Mar 08

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#9 Aug 25, 2013
Bubbletoes wrote:
Even as a gun rights/personal freedom advocate, I see no problem here. Businesses can choose to exclude guns from their stores, and gun owners are free to spend their money anywhere they choose.
Most fast food chains serve coffee, and it's a sure thing some others will gladly take business from Starbucks if they don't want the business of some good citizens. I think Starbucks is overrated and overpriced anyway. Freedom is a double-edged sword and businesses are free to make stupid decisions and suffer from them. This is known as free enterprise.
Gun aficionados pressuring a business to allow guns is no different than some other group pressuring them to ban them. I know some will disagree based on a rationalization, but freedom works both ways. Your freedom ends at the doorstep of private property. You cannot presume to carry into the home of another man. Nor can you presume to do I in another man's business.
I belong to a group of guys who meet on Sat mornings at a FF place. When we stopped preferring one place, we just took ourselves and our money to another one.
We don't need YOU or anyone to tell us about property rights. We already know a home owner can keep us out of his home FOR ANY REASON.

A man's place of business isn't his castle. Businesses are not homes and are regulated differently than homes. For example:

WalMart is private property until it invites the public inside.

Once we're inside WalMart our rights don't have to end there. As long as we're in there shopping (looking to buy something for sale), we are actually in the public's domain. It brings no harm to the owner if we're armed. The private property of WalMart doesn't give WalMart an excuse to endanger us just because Walmart owns the land and the building.

Should Govts be allowed to deny us our rights if we're on Govt property ?

Guns, other weapons, and gun owners are discriminated EVERYWHERE. Our gun rights are in the negative to the 10th power. We need more gun laws (that protect gun owners) to balance the blatant rampant crime of disobeying the 2nd amendment.

Nope. Property rights (excluding homes and some businesses) are never an excuse to trample the 2nd amendment (this could keep us disarmed everywhere).

I completely disagree with you. Florida law protects gun owners in employee parking lots. I agree with Florida. WalMart and Starbucks allow guns inside if the State of the store allows it. I agree with that policy too.

“Act Interdimensional ly”

Since: Jan 08

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#10 Aug 25, 2013
I'm so glad to see how many of the Newton families have got over the tragic deaths of their children to get on with the pursuit of their dream to become media whores.

After all, what is the point of a senseless tragedy if you can't turn it into an opportunity to advance a political ideology or to fulfill the American dream of becoming a pseudo-celebrity?

“Constitutionist/ SAF”

Since: Mar 08

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#11 Aug 27, 2013
They tell lies to con the public into accepting illegal laws that deny us our self defense rights.
Gun Control Does Not Work

United States

#12 Aug 27, 2013
Rick Moss wrote:
I'm so glad to see how many of the Newton families have got over the tragic deaths of their children to get on with the pursuit of their dream to become media whores.
After all, what is the point of a senseless tragedy if you can't turn it into an opportunity to advance a political ideology or to fulfill the American dream of becoming a pseudo-celebrity?
To further their political ideology, and to make some BIG $$$$ in the process.
CTM

New Milford, CT

#13 Aug 27, 2013
Free media from Blumenthals father-in-law as well!
vivatejas25

Corrales, NM

#14 Aug 27, 2013
First they need to prove that the sandy hook shooting was legitimate and not just a hoax. If you search on youtube there are thousands of videos showing the cracks in the story.

“Constitutionist/ SAF”

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#15 Aug 28, 2013
vivatejas25 wrote:
First they need to prove that the sandy hook shooting was legitimate and not just a hoax. If you search on youtube there are thousands of videos showing the cracks in the story.
The shooting was instigated by police. To say it was a hoax helps police to convince the public any conspiracy theory is a rediculous idea.

“Constitutionist/ SAF”

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#16 Aug 28, 2013
Bubbletoes wrote:
Even as a gun rights/personal freedom advocate, I see no problem here. Businesses can choose to exclude guns from their stores, and gun owners are free to spend their money anywhere they choose.
Most fast food chains serve coffee, and it's a sure thing some others will gladly take business from Starbucks if they don't want the business of some good citizens. I think Starbucks is overrated and overpriced anyway. Freedom is a double-edged sword and businesses are free to make stupid decisions and suffer from them. This is known as free enterprise.
Gun aficionados pressuring a business to allow guns is no different than some other group pressuring them to ban them. I know some will disagree based on a rationalization, but freedom works both ways. Your freedom ends at the doorstep of private property. You cannot presume to carry into the home of another man. Nor can you presume to do I in another man's business.
I belong to a group of guys who meet on Sat mornings at a FF place. When we stopped preferring one place, we just took ourselves and our money to another one.
The only gun owner needing a lecture on property rights are the ones promoting property rights over gun rights. They remind me of the pro 2nd amendment cops who go around seizing guns from gun owners.

My gun owning rights don't end at WalMart's doorstep. You must be in full support of the Gun Free Safe School Zone Act which dangerously prohibits guns on govt property. We all know how that worked at SandyHook school.

“Pompous pontificator”

Since: Jun 08

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#17 Aug 28, 2013
Tory II wrote:
<quoted text>The only gun owner needing a lecture on property rights are the ones promoting property rights over gun rights. They remind me of the pro 2nd amendment cops who go around seizing guns from gun owners.
My gun owning rights don't end at WalMart's doorstep. You must be in full support of the Gun Free Safe School Zone Act which dangerously prohibits guns on govt property. We all know how that worked at SandyHook school.
Just a reminder to jog your memory; Walmart is a private business and does not operate on tax dollars. PUBLIC schools are operated for the citizens who pay the freight, and therefore subject to the steering of elected political bodies AND the voters who elect them. Citizens have a rightful say in what THEIR schools' policies are. The only pressure we can exert on Walmart, Starbucks, etc is through lobbing their shareholders and management AND with our patronage or boycotting.
A bully with a gun or without one, is still a bully.

“Constitutionist/ SAF”

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#18 Aug 28, 2013
Bubbletoes wrote:
Just a reminder to jog your memory; Walmart is a private business and does not operate on tax dollars. The only pressure we can exert on Walmart, Starbucks, etc is through lobbing their shareholders and management AND with our patronage or boycotting.
A bully with a gun or without one, is still a bully.
I don't need you to remind me WalMart is a private business. You must think gun owners are stupid.

What happens if Govt gives Walmart a monopoly ? Govt regulates all U.S. businesses heavily. You can't answer that, I can.
Bubbletoes wrote:
PUBLIC schools are operated for the citizens who pay the freight, and therefore subject to the steering of elected political bodies AND the voters who elect them. Citizens have a rightful say in what THEIR schools' policies are.
The 2nd amendment prohibits all Govts (elected political bodies) from regulating our weapons. Now you know.
Bubbletoes wrote:
A bully with a gun or without one, is still a bully.
You support antigun laws, I don't.

“Pompous pontificator”

Since: Jun 08

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#19 Aug 29, 2013
To be crystal clear: Walmart and Starbucks, or a Mom n Pop store, can ban guns in their store if they want to. I CCW in my local Walmarts all the time, there are no signs to the contrary and nobody has ever asked me if I am carrying. I do the same everywhere it is not expressly prohibited by law, which are very few places, and I have never come across a store sign banning it.

Public schools are beholden to the wants/demands of citizens, and SHOULD provide for the effective protection of children. IMO, that would involve vetted people with guns. It's up to voters to manage school policy. It's up to shoppers to manage store policy.

I don't know how I can dumb this down any better.

“Constitutionist/ SAF”

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#20 Aug 31, 2013
Most posters here are cops or cop collaborators; all will say they support the 2nd amendment (and antigun laws). All antigun people say they support the 2nd amendment. Here's some proof:
Bubbletoes wrote:
To be crystal clear: Walmart and Starbucks, or a Mom n Pop store, can ban guns in their store if they want to. I CCW in my local Walmarts all the time, there are no signs to the contrary and nobody has ever asked me if I am carrying. I do the same everywhere it is not expressly prohibited by law, which are very few places, and I have never come across a store sign banning it.
You're a pig so yes, you can carry anywhere without being harassed. Duh !

Police rarely use WARRANTS to spy on gun owners. They place cameras and listening devices in homes and then they know who is armed in places where police have outlawed them.
Bubbletoes wrote:
To be crystal clear: Walmart and Starbucks, or a Mom n Pop store, can ban guns in their store if they want to.
Again, property rights don't allow for the owner to do anything they want. Murder, and gun control laws are illegal everywhere.
Bubbletoes wrote:
Public schools are beholden to the wants/demands of citizens, and SHOULD provide for the effective protection of children. IMO, that would involve vetted people with guns.
You're another antigun liar who says he's a 2nd amendment supporter. All gun control laws are illegal.
Bubbletoes wrote:
Public schools are beholden to the wants/demands of citizens, and SHOULD provide for the effective protection of children. IMO, that would involve vetted people with guns. It's up to voters to manage school policy. It's up to shoppers to manage store policy.
I don't know how I can dumb this down any better.
Again, the 2nd amendment prohibits Govts from regulating our weapons. Gun control laws on school property are illegal.

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