Michelle Obama's 'Plan B' Gun Control Effort

May 6, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: American Thinker

Michelle attempted to paint that picture during with Lee Cowan on "CBS Sunday Morning," when she dredged up sob stories from her gun violence visit to Chicago last month.

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Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe not. I think it could be done a lot more thoughtfully and responsibly.
But your way sounds easier. Let's just let every kind of potential mass mudrerer have access to firearms. If you're going to kill, you might as well have the proper tools.
Yeah, like the governments that have committed ALL of the genocides last century, RIGHT?

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Well, yes, so it doesn't mean a thing when it comes from him, given the closest he has come to serving his country involves a platoon of Marines in a bathroom bar near Twentynine Palms.
Here's another one for you to CHOKE ON, vile traitor-troll:

"Another charge is, that the President has violated the Constitution of the United States in this: that he has disarmed citizens; refused them the privilege, under the Constitution, of bearing arms. Sir, it is true that he has refused traitors the privilege of using arms against the Government of the country. General Lyon, of Missouri, and the gallant Frank Blair, and their associates, did disarm some fifteen hundred rebels at Camp Jackson, near St. Louis; and for that we are told they are violators of the Constitution. What other instance does the Senator from Kentucky remember in which the right to bear arms been refused to any citizen? The President has not only guarantied, by his action, the right to bear arms, but he has invited the patriotic citizens of the United States to bear arms for the only noble purpose for which men can take arms--in defense of the Constitution and liberties of people. Is the right to bear arms in Kentucky so sacred that it may never be violated? Then, why do you not bear arms in defense of the Constitution and liberties of the Republic? There is a right to bear arms that is worth something. Does Kentucky stand upon the right to arms? Why is she not bearing arms upon the battle-field to-day, beside Massachusetts and Indiana and Ohio, and the loyal States? Why does she not insist upon her right to bear arms, when traitors are seeking to tear down the Government under which we live?"

- Senator James H. Lane, of Indiana, July 16, 1861, The Congressional Globe, Pg. 143.(James Henry Lane also known as Jim Lane,(June 22, 1814 – July 11, 1866), served as a United States Senator and as a general who fought for the Union).

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So, thoughtfully and responsibly, how would your background check system work to weed out potential psychotic mass murderers? That was your point right, background checks to stop crazy people from getting a firearm.
Also people with criminal backgrounds, wifebeaters, and jaywalkers.

There are ways to reduce our risks of gun violence, even if background checks are not totally foolproof. I believe, however, that the burden is yours to demonstrate how the absence of background checks helps public safety.

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Look, traitor-troll, I'm not the one advocating violation of We The People's Constitution. You, and your fellow treasonous ilk ARE. So wear your YELLOW BADGE of treasonous cowardice in shame.
You belong in restraints.

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Yeah, like the governments that have committed ALL of the genocides last century, RIGHT?
I know what's behind all your firebreathing. From what I can tell, any proper background check would eliminate you. You shouldn't even be trusted with a water pistol.

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Start with the felons and the wife beaters.
That would take care of 90 percent or more of the problem.
Let me know when you can figure out how to tell a felon by looking at him, RustyTrombone.
Barely, FYI, they are already in the system, we just don't enforce it. The question was how do you get the mentally ill into the system so the ATF can find them on background checks.

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<quoted text>You belong in restraints.
For INSISTING that We The People's Constitution is ADHERED to? Not quite, traitor-troll. That privilege would rightfully belong to YOU and YOUR fellow traitor-trolls.

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<quoted text>I know what's behind all your firebreathing. From what I can tell, any proper background check would eliminate you. You shouldn't even be trusted with a water pistol.
Yeah, that's why I was part owner of a gun shop. And dealt with the BATF, FBI, Phoenix Police, and Maricopa Co. Sheriff's Dept. every day. Brilliant deduction, traitor-troll.

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<quoted text>Also people with criminal backgrounds, wifebeaters, and jaywalkers.
There are ways to reduce our risks of gun violence, even if background checks are not totally foolproof. I believe, however, that the burden is yours to demonstrate how the absence of background checks helps public safety.
Easy:

United States Crime Rates 1960 - 2011 in relation to Gun Control Laws/NICS Background checks

(Important note: The number of background checks does not equate to the number of firearms sold. As multiple guns; both Long Guns, and Hand Guns, can be purchased during a NICS background check).

The statistics from the chart were gathered from the Disaster Center referenced above. To which were added the last two columns on the right. Which contain information concerning U.S. gun law enactment periods. As well as crime rate variances, and finally; N.I.C.S.,(National Instant Criminal Background Check), numbers,

As it is plain to see, crime rates started a dramatic rise after the 1968 Gun Control Act. During the years 1981-84 crime rates either leveled out or dropped. From 1985-91 the overall crime rate again rose sharply. During the year 1992 the crime rates again leveled. While in 1993 most crime rates had fallen. Which fails to explain the justification for the Unconstitutional “Brady Bill”.

The 'Gun Control' laws that have been unconstitutionally passed have also had an effect on Firearm sales in the United States. According to National Shooting Sports Foundation,(NSSF), and FBI NICS records. Firearms sales have increased by 54.1% between 2002-2011*. Thus making the claim by John Lott in his book; “More Guns, Less Crime”, a statistical FACT.
http://gunshowonthenet.blogspot.com/2013/04/u...

'Gun control' does NOTHING to reduce crime. While more people being armed does EVERYTHING to reduce crime.

Take a hike, traitor-troll.

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Yeah, that's why I was part owner of a gun shop. And dealt with the BATF, FBI, Phoenix Police, and Maricopa Co. Sheriff's Dept. every day. Brilliant deduction, traitor-troll.
This dance is over. Keep the wind to your back and shoot to kill.
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. What data base would the ATF use to screen out 'nuts'.?
with topix posters. I'm no pro, but the crazies are here.

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<quoted text>This dance is over. Keep the wind to your back and shoot to kill.
"The President has also violated that clause the Constitution of the United States which says that no money shall be drawn from the Treasury of the United States, except in consequence of appropriations by law. He has taken appropriations made by Congress for one purpose and applied them to another, in violation of law; and we are called upon to support that act of his which was subversive of the plainest principles, and the very letter of the Constitution, which he, and you, and I, have taken an oath to support.
"The Federal Constitution was originally framed without any bill of rights; but, sir, the people, jealous of power--our fathers, knowing the lust and love of power--had certain amendments put to that Constitution, in the nature of a bill of rights. The President of the United States has, since the adjournment of the last Congress, and prior to the commencement of the present session, violated the first, second, third, fourth, fifth, and sixth amendments to the Constitution.
"By the first amendment to that instrument, it is provided that Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble and petition the Government for a redress of grievances; yet, sir, the President of the United States has, by his orders, limited the freedom of speech and of the press. Sir, a reign of terror exists to-day. Even in this city men dare not speak the honest sentiments of their hearts in regard to the acts the Administration. Men have been arrested all over this country without process of law, upon no other charge than that they had uttered seditious language. Where is your authority to a man for the utterance of seditious language? Is anything said of it in the Constitution of United States? Is there any law upon the statute-book that authorizes these unconstitutional usurpations by the Executive of the country? Sir, a warrant was issued a few days ago by a commander, backed by four hundred soldiers, who surrounded one of the printing presses of this country, and removed the types and stopped the issuing of that paper. Why? Because, as was said, it contained libels upon the soldiery of United States!
"The President has likewise violated the second amendment, which secures to the people the right to keep and bear arms. That right has been infringed. Arms, the private property of citizens, have, upon mere suspicion, been taken at the order of military commanders, and are now withheld from the citizens, whose property they are, and whose rights have thus been violated.

"A MEMBER. Where?

"Mr BURNETT. In my own State, in my own district, upon the soil of Kentucky, whose people have been loyal to this Government, and have done no act in derogation of their fealty to it. Yet the property of her citizens has been seized by military commanders, and is held today in violation of that clause of the Constitution which secures to the people the right to keep and bear arms.

- Rep. Henry C. Burnett, of Kentucky, July 16, 1861, U.S. House of Representatives, The Congressional Globe, Pgs. 150-151.

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Vikings: Spam spam spam spam...
PS: your hero was an avowed racist and opposed the liberation of slaves.
The father of modern welfare was a racist.

J F Kennedy was a womanizer.

Ted Kennedy was an alcoholic womanizer that drowned a mistress.

Jimmy Carter was as inept as Ford was a bumbler.

Senator Robert Byrd was a long time member of the KKK.

The one thing all five have in common is that you liberals fawned over every one of them.

Talk about tarnished heroes.

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The father of modern welfare was a racist.
J F Kennedy was a womanizer.
Ted Kennedy was an alcoholic womanizer that drowned a mistress.
Jimmy Carter was as inept as Ford was a bumbler.
Senator Robert Byrd was a long time member of the KKK.
The one thing all five have in common is that you liberals fawned over every one of them.
Talk about tarnished heroes.
EXCELLENT POST!! Hat-tip.

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Well, yes,
"We demand it according to law; we demand it upon the guarantees of the Constitution. You are bound to guaranty to us are republican form of Government, and we ask it as constitutional right. We do not ask you to interfere as a party, as your feelings or prejudices may be one way or another in reference to the parties of the country; but we ask you to interfere as a Government according to the Constitution. Of course we want your sympathy, and your regard, and your respect; but we ask your interference on constitutional grounds.
"The amendments to the Constitution, which constitute the bill of rights, declare that "a regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep bear arms shall not be infringed." Our people are denied this right secured to them in their constitution and the Constitution of the United States; yet we hear no complaints here of violations of the Constitution in this respect. We ask the Government to interpose to secure us this constitutional right."

- Senator Powell, July 27, 1861. The Congressional Globe, Pg. 296.(Lazarus W. Powell,(Oct. 6, 1812 – July 3, 1867), was the 19th Governor of Kentucky, from 1851 to 1855. And later elected to represent Kentucky in the U.S. Senate from 1859 to 1865.

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J F Kennedy was a womanizer.
JFK has been ded for fifty years.

Mark Sanford, Republican, elected this week.

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Senator Robert Byrd was a long time member of the KKK.
He wasn't.

Strom Thurman: biggest racist in the US Senate. Republican.

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Barely, FYI, they are already in the system, we just don't enforce it.
FYI: over two million requests for clearance on the current system were denied.

Two million denied.

Imagine the system without the giant NRA loophole.

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