Michelle Obama's 'Plan B' Gun Control Effort

May 6, 2013 Full story: American Thinker 350

Michelle attempted to paint that picture during with Lee Cowan on "CBS Sunday Morning," when she dredged up sob stories from her gun violence visit to Chicago last month.

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#189 May 11, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
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Yeah, that's why I was part owner of a gun shop.
Sure you were, GayDavy.

Was this before you failed the background check?

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#190 May 11, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
'Gun control' does NOTHING to reduce crime.
Two million guns denied, GayDavy.

Including you, eh, StickyLips?

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#191 May 11, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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He wasn't.
Strom Thurman: biggest racist in the US Senate. Republican.
You are as ignorant as you are stupid.

New York Times, 6-29-2010

"Mr. Byrd’s perspective on the world changed over the years. A former member of the Ku Klux Klan, he filibustered against the 1964 Civil Rights Act only to come to back civil rights measures and Mr. Obama. A supporter of the Vietnam War, he became a fierce critic, decades later, of the war in Iraq. In 1964, the Americans for Democratic Action, the liberal lobbying group, found that his views and the group’s aligned only 16 percent of the time. In 2005, he got an A.D.A. rating of 95.

Mr. Byrd’s political life could be traced to his early involvement with the Klan, an association that almost thwarted his career and clouded it intermittently for years afterward.

In the early 1940s, he organized a 150-member klavern, or chapter, of the Klan in Sophia, W.Va., and was chosen its leader. Afterward, Joel L. Baskin, the Klan’s grand dragon for the region, suggested that Mr. Byrd use his “talents for leadership” by going into politics."

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#192 May 11, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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JFK has been ded for fifty years.
Mark Sanford, Republican, elected this week.
Womanizer.
So.... you don't mind pointing out dead (not ded) heroes as long as they aren't Democrats?

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#193 May 11, 2013
Bama Yankee wrote:
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You are as ignorant as you are stupid.
New York Times, 6-29-2010
"Mr. Byrd’s perspective on the world changed over the years. A former member of the Ku Klux Klan,
You said he was a long time member.

Prove it.

Since Byrd himself acknowledged being a member, and called it his greatest mistake... and left the Klan in 1943.

And the NAACP forgave him.

Not you, eh?

PS: You keep forgetting that Strom Thurman (Republican) gave the longest filibuster in US history trying to block the same bill.

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#194 May 11, 2013
Bama Yankee wrote:
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So.... you don't mind pointing out dead (not ded) heroes as long as they aren't Democrats?
So, you rather point out dead Democrats than Republicans that were elected last week?

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#195 May 11, 2013
Bama Yankee wrote:
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So.... you don't mind pointing out dead (not ded)
my my, you want to pick on computer lag, eh?

HAHAHAAHAHAHAH!
The

Santa Fe, NM

#196 May 11, 2013
Bama Yankee wrote:
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Dixiecrats evolved, but most became the Republican base.

Republican Southern strategy - dumb goobers doing the bidding of the 1 percenters. Too stupid to know any better.

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#197 May 11, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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So, you rather point out dead Democrats than Republicans that were elected last week?
Just following your lead.

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#198 May 11, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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You said he was a long time member.
Prove it.
Since Byrd himself acknowledged being a member, and called it his greatest mistake... and left the Klan in 1943.
And the NAACP forgave him.
Not you, eh?
PS: You keep forgetting that Strom Thurman (Republican) gave the longest filibuster in US history trying to block the same bill.
If you don't think 2 years is a long time, try holding your breath that long.

Knowing you won't believe any facts presented to you, research his biography yourself. Google is your friend.

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#199 May 11, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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FYI: over two million requests for clearance on the current system were denied.
Two million denied.
Imagine the system without the giant NRA loophole.
Over two million denied. Those criminals were denied because they can't legally own a gun. Of the 2 million who tried to illegally buy a gun, how many were prosecuted? Let me save you some time, less than 1/2 of 1% and only 1/2 of those are convicted. Imagine the system where we actually prosecuted people we know try to buy a gun illegally. We even have their names!
I say

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#200 May 11, 2013
RustyS wrote:
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Over two million denied. Those criminals were denied because they can't legally own a gun. Of the 2 million who tried to illegally buy a gun, how many were prosecuted? Let me save you some time, less than 1/2 of 1% and only 1/2 of those are convicted. Imagine the system where we actually prosecuted people we know try to buy a gun illegally. We even have their names!
prosecute them. But you know, of course, that the NRA and death lobby have had their paid toadies do everything they can to reduce the efficiency and effectiveness of background checks. Quit playing games.

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

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San Jose, CA.

#201 May 11, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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V...
“The best definition of citizen, according to European writers, which I have been able to find, is a "native or inhabitant of a city vested with its freedom and liberties." The "freedom and liberties," or "privileges and immunities," essential to a citizen, were those I have mentioned; and although the name was original confined to the inhabitant of a city, yet when these principles were diffused among, and conferred on, the inhabitants of the country, they, having the same attributes, took the name. The rights of an American citizen are essentially the same: to elect, be elected, and bear arms in his defence; they are essential, for, divest him of these, and you divest him of his citizenship. He has other essential rights, those of property and personal security under the protection of laws fairly administered; but he has these in common with foreigners, and in some respects with slaves."

- Senator John Holmes, of Maine, Dec. 9, 1820.[Abridgment of the Debates of Congress, from 1789 to 1856. FROM GALES AND BEATON'S ANNALS OF CONGRESS, FROM THEIR REGISTER OF DEBATES; AND FROM THE OFFICIAL REPORTED DEBATES, BY JOHN C RIVES. Pg. 681.(John Holmes (March 14, 1773 – July 7, 1843) was an American politician. He served as a U.S. Representative from Massachusetts and was one of the first two U.S. Senators from Maine).

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

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#202 May 11, 2013
RustyS wrote:
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Over two million denied. Those criminals were denied because they can't legally own a gun. Of the 2 million who tried to illegally buy a gun, how many were prosecuted? Let me save you some time, less than 1/2 of 1% and only 1/2 of those are convicted. Imagine the system where we actually prosecuted people we know try to buy a gun illegally. We even have their names!
They don't prosecute because they don't want it in court. If it goes to court, they will lose. As our government was EXPRESSLY DENIED the authority to contravene that right in ANY way, shape, or form. It would put quite a few 'agents' out of work.

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

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San Jose, CA.

#203 May 11, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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He wasn't.
Strom Thurman: biggest racist in the US Senate. Republican.
The racist roots of the democrat party's lust for 'gun control'

"Before the election Governor Scott had organized and armed the colored militia, alleging that it was necessary to protect them against violence. This action was very objectionable to the democratic party...."
http://gunshowonthenet.blogspot.com/2013/04/t...

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

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San Jose, CA.

#204 May 11, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Sure ?
"It was known, and would be admitted, that of them had, either in their laws or constitution, deprived free negroes and mulattoes of all political rights of citizens; such as denying them the right to vote at elections; or depriving them of the liberty to give evidence against a white person; forbidding them to bear arms; and several of these States have compelled them to depart, and forbidden them to return. For this we have been often reproached. To proceed with the course he had laid out to himself, he would begin with New Hampshire.

"New Hampshire had said in her constitution "that all men are born equally free and independent. Have certain natural, essential, and inherent rights--among which are the enjoying and defending life and liberty," &c.

"In the year 1808 she passed a law to regulate her militia, in which it is, amongst other things, enacted "that each and every free able-bodied white male citizen of this State, resident therein, who is, or shall be, of the age of sixteen years, and under the age of forty &c. shall be enrolled."

"If the white man and the black man are born equally free and independent, and have the same natural rights, &c., among which are the enjoying and defending his life and liberty, how is the colored man to defend his life if he is prevented from the means given to the white man? This absurdity is so palpable that no man attempt to reconcile it. No other conclusion can result, but that New Hampshire, too, has yielded her assent, that free negroes and mulattoes are not citizens; but that these governments are constituted of white citizens only. A man deprived of his arms, or deprived of the means of using them as his fellow-citizens do, is deprived at least of half his defence. Republican New Hampshire would never do that.

"He would next examine the laws and constitution of Vermont. Although this was one the new States, on account of her local situation and political habits, he had classed her with the States in her neighborhood.

"Vermont also had said in the first article her constitution, "that all men are born equally free and independent, and have certain natural, inherent, and inalienable rights, amongst which are the enjoying and defending life and liberty, acquiring, possessing, and protecting property, and pursuing and obtaining happiness and safety."

"She passed a law on the 10th of March, 1797, to regulate the militia. In which it is also enacted: "that every free able-bodied white male citizen above the age of eighteen, and under forty five, &c., shall be enrolled"* &c.

"The defending life and protecting property, by the appointment of Heaven, must depend upon our physical powers And will the State of Vermont, which knows so well the benefit arms, strip, by law, a portion of her citizens this essential means of defending life and protecting property? This, like the case of New Hampshire, proves that they have free negroes and mulattoes in Vermont, but have no black or yellow fellow-citizens there."

- Senator William Smith, Dec. 8, 1820.[Abridgment of the Debates of Congress, from 1789 to 1856. FROM GALES AND BEATON'S ANNALS OF CONGRESS, FROM THEIR REGISTER OF DEBATES; AND FROM THE OFFICIAL REPORTED DEBATES, BY JOHN C RIVES. Pg. 671-72]
Yes

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#205 May 11, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
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The racist roots of the democrat party's lust for 'gun control'
"Before the election Governor Scott had organized and armed the colored militia, alleging that it was necessary to protect them against violence. This action was very objectionable to the democratic party...."
http://gunshowonthenet.blogspot.com/2013/04/t...
the ancient democratic party. Now called the teabaggers.
Cat74

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#206 May 11, 2013
The reason people in the South vote Republican is because southerners still believe in American traditions, like going to church on Sunday, believing in the 10 commandments, going into military service as soon as they are old enough, then getting a job, working, and taking care of their own. They don't lay around like they do in our cities waiting for their welfare check so they can buy bullets to use each other for target practice from Wednesdy night until Sunday morning. Every week in Obama's old neighborhood they have target practice 4 days a week. I guess if we took their guns away they would just hang each other, because killers will kill. It is their culture.

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

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San Jose, CA.

#207 May 11, 2013
Yes wrote:
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the ancient democratic party. Now called the teabaggers.
The demonRats have NEVER changed. They have ALWAYS been gun grabbing racists, and ALWAYS will be.

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

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San Jose, CA.

#208 May 11, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Two million StickyLips [I've set a new record!!!]?
"It was known, and would be admitted, that of them had, either in their laws or constitution, deprived free negroes and mulattoes of all political rights of citizens; such as denying them the right to vote at elections; or depriving them of the liberty to give evidence against a white person; forbidding them to bear arms; and several of these States have compelled them to depart, and forbidden them to return. For this we have been often reproached. To proceed with the course he had laid out to himself, he would begin with New Hampshire.

"New Hampshire had said in her constitution "that all men are born equally free and independent. Have certain natural, essential, and inherent rights--among which are the enjoying and defending life and liberty," &c.

"In the year 1808 she passed a law to regulate her militia, in which it is, amongst other things, enacted "that each and every free able-bodied white male citizen of this State, resident therein, who is, or shall be, of the age of sixteen years, and under the age of forty &c. shall be enrolled."

"If the white man and the black man are born equally free and independent, and have the same natural rights, &c., among which are the enjoying and defending his life and liberty, how is the colored man to defend his life if he is prevented from the means given to the white man? This absurdity is so palpable that no man attempt to reconcile it. No other conclusion can result, but that New Hampshire, too, has yielded her assent, that free negroes and mulattoes are not citizens; but that these governments are constituted of white citizens only. A man deprived of his arms, or deprived of the means of using them as his fellow-citizens do, is deprived at least of half his defence. Republican New Hampshire would never do that.

"He would next examine the laws and constitution of Vermont. Although this was one the new States, on account of her local situation and political habits, he had classed her with the States in her neighborhood.

"Vermont also had said in the first article her constitution, "that all men are born equally free and independent, and have certain natural, inherent, and inalienable rights, amongst which are the enjoying and defending life and liberty, acquiring, possessing, and protecting property, and pursuing and obtaining happiness and safety."

"She passed a law on the 10th of March, 1797, to regulate the militia. In which it is also enacted: "that every free able-bodied white male citizen above the age of eighteen, and under forty five, &c., shall be enrolled"* &c.

"The defending life and protecting property, by the appointment of Heaven, must depend upon our physical powers And will the State of Vermont, which knows so well the benefit arms, strip, by law, a portion of her citizens this essential means of defending life and protecting property? This, like the case of New Hampshire, proves that they have free negroes and mulattoes in Vermont, but have no black or yellow fellow-citizens there."

- Senator William Smith, Dec. 8, 1820.[Abridgment of the Debates of Congress, from 1789 to 1856. FROM GALES AND BEATON'S ANNALS OF CONGRESS, FROM THEIR REGISTER OF DEBATES; AND FROM THE OFFICIAL REPORTED DEBATES, BY JOHN C RIVES. Pg. 671-72]

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