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A State Divided On Gun Control: Ilion Vs. New York City

There are 38 comments on the WUTR story from Feb 7, 2013, titled A State Divided On Gun Control: Ilion Vs. New York City. In it, WUTR reports that:

As we've reported to you, the New York Safe Act gives New York state the toughest gun laws in the nation, and it passed both legislative houses overwhelmingly.

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Teddy R

Mclean, VA

#24 Mar 5, 2013
PVisright0percentoftime wrote:
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There absolutely is no "gun ban" of any kind in the city of New York or any of the five boroughs thereof.
http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/permits/gun...
None of which responds to the poster's completely valid point that a carry permit issued by an authority outside NYC is not recognized as valid within the 5 boroughs.

To which I'll add that anything less than a "Shall Issue" policy is an unconstitutional infringement of federal 2A rights, and a de facto "gun ban."

(BTW, the link in your own post refutes your statement insofar as those political/ideological fictions termed "assault weapons" are concerned - contrary to current federal law, there is an explicit "gun ban" in effect in NYC on this vaguely and irrationally-defined class of firearms.)
PVisright0percen toftime

Herkimer, NY

#25 Mar 5, 2013
WillysKidmarks wrote:
Even better, why don't you prove him wrong
I did.
PVisright0percen toftime

Herkimer, NY

#26 Mar 5, 2013
Teddy R wrote:
None of which responds to the poster's completely valid point that a carry permit issued by an authority outside NYC is not recognized as valid within the 5 boroughs.
Nope. What the person said was, New York City has a "gun ban". Which is absolutely, completely and totally not true. Nice strawman though. I'll give you credit for that.
Teddy R

Mclean, VA

#27 Mar 5, 2013
PVisright0percentoftime wrote:
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Nope. What the person said was, New York City has a "gun ban". Which is absolutely, completely and totally not true. Nice strawman though. I'll give you credit for that.
No strawman - true or false: NYS pistol permits issued by authorities outside NYC are not honored in NYC?

True or false: NYC (and NYS, thanks to Andy "I'd Ban My Mom If It Got Me Votes" Cuomo) maintains a ban on the political creature known as "assault weapons," contrary to federal law?

I'm sure you will agree the truth is the WHOLE truth - not just cherry-picked bits that happen to favor a particular partisan p.o.v., right?
Within reason

Syracuse, NY

#28 Mar 6, 2013
PVisright0percentoftime wrote:
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There absolutely is no "gun ban" of any kind in the city of New York or any of the five boroughs thereof.
http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/permits/gun...
Of all the states that issue carry pistol licenses, New York State has arguably the strictest handgun licensing policies in the nation.New York City, which is effectively a "no-issue" jurisdiction for carry pistol licenses, has even stricter laws, including those regulating handguns exclusively kept at home, thereby making it difficult to virtually impossible for ordinary citizens to obtain, possess, or carry firearms lawfully within New York City.

New York City has No-Issue jurisdictions in practice, with governmental policy directing officials with discretionary power to rarely or never issue licenses.

My guess is that you don't have a pistol permit and will never get one. Before you look stupid on here again, do your homework sonny.
Are you one of those smart, authoritative dicks that learn everything from a computer and nothing in practice of real life?
Just because the info is on a website, doesn't mean it is actual fact in real life.
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Herkimer, NY

#29 Mar 6, 2013
Teddy R wrote:
No strawman - true or false: NYS pistol permits issued by authorities outside NYC are not honored in NYC?
True or false: NYC (and NYS, thanks to Andy "I'd Ban My Mom If It Got Me Votes" Cuomo) maintains a ban on the political creature known as "assault weapons," contrary to federal law?
I'm sure you will agree the truth is the WHOLE truth - not just cherry-picked bits that happen to favor a particular partisan p.o.v., right?
A. Strawman.

B. Strawman.

C. NYC does not have a "gun ban".
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Herkimer, NY

#30 Mar 6, 2013
Within reason wrote:
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Of all the states that issue carry pistol licenses, New York State has arguably the strictest handgun licensing policies in the nation.New York City, which is effectively a "no-issue" jurisdiction for carry pistol licenses, has even stricter laws, including those regulating handguns exclusively kept at home, thereby making it difficult to virtually impossible for ordinary citizens to obtain, possess, or carry firearms lawfully within New York City.
New York City has No-Issue jurisdictions in practice, with governmental policy directing officials with discretionary power to rarely or never issue licenses.
My guess is that you don't have a pistol permit and will never get one. Before you look stupid on here again, do your homework sonny.
Are you one of those smart, authoritative dicks that learn everything from a computer and nothing in practice of real life?
Just because the info is on a website, doesn't mean it is actual fact in real life.
"Arguably"... "effectively"... "rarely"....

NYC does not have a gun ban.
Teddy R

Mclean, VA

#31 Mar 6, 2013
PVisright0percentoftime wrote:
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A. Strawman.
Cowardly and disingenuous partisan denial of the Truth.
PVisright0percentoftime wrote:
<quoted text>B. Strawman.
Cowardly and disingenuous partisan denial of the Truth.
PVisright0percentoftime wrote:
<quoted text>C. NYC does not have a "gun ban".
Cowardly and disingenuous partisan sophistry.
figgis

Pittsburgh, PA

#32 Mar 7, 2013
youtube.com/watch... Wheres the Beef?
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Herkimer, NY

#33 Mar 7, 2013
Teddy R wrote:
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Cowardly and disingenuous partisan denial of the Truth.
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Cowardly and disingenuous partisan denial of the Truth.
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Cowardly and disingenuous partisan sophistry.
The truth is that NYC does not have a gun ban.
PV is Very Stupid

Syracuse, NY

#34 Mar 7, 2013
PVisright0percentoftime wrote:
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The truth is that NYC does not have a gun ban.
how about this? why don't you give it up? Nobody agrees with you.

you are so lame...
PVisright0percen toftime

Herkimer, NY

#35 Mar 7, 2013
PV is Very Stupid wrote:
how about this? why don't you give it up? Nobody agrees with you.
you are so lame...
So that's you're latest argument? I really couldn't care less who agrees with me. The fact is, NYC does not have a gun ban. Period.
Teddy R

Mclean, VA

#36 Mar 7, 2013
PVisright0percentoftime wrote:
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The truth is that NYC does not have a gun ban.
Disingenuous partisan sophistry.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck - it's a duck.
Prince V

Fort Plain, NY

#37 Mar 7, 2013
PV is Very Stupid wrote:
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how about this? why don't you give it up? Nobody agrees with you.
you are so lame...
OK, Uncle. That's willingtotalk not PV. just saying.
PV is Very Stupid

Syracuse, NY

#38 Mar 7, 2013
PVisright0percentoftime wrote:
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So that's you're latest argument? I really couldn't care less who agrees with me. The fact is, NYC does not have a gun ban. Period.
Yup..I learned long ago that arguing with mental pygmies like you is like wrestling with a pig in the mud...after awhile you realize the pig likes it.

Have a great life o' pig who is never wrong.
Ex- El Paso Resident

Las Cruces, NM

#39 Mar 7, 2013
PVisright0percentoftime wrote:
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The truth is that NYC does not have a gun ban.
Can I judge this posters remark with the "clueless" vote three times?
Ex- El Paso Resident

Las Cruces, NM

#40 Mar 7, 2013
The best thing about Bloomberg is he is not here!!!!!

Back to my big gulp and freedom from moron leaders.
deyquan

Mount Holly, NJ

#41 Mar 7, 2013
gonna take you guns then we gonna rob and rapes you you gots no way of defending youselves.

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