Political gun debate starts anew after Navy Yard rampage

Sep 16, 2013 Full story: WPTZ-TV Plattsburgh 183

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see the light

El Paso, TX

#1 Sep 16, 2013
Its not the guns. They can't shoot on their own, its the mentally ill people that can't control their evil thoughts that shoot guns. Of course since he's Black its most likely ok-he was some how justified.

Since: Aug 13

Bozeman, MT

#2 Sep 16, 2013
Gun debate?

Start by figuring out how a man with an unstable history involving the discharge of a firearm gained clearance to a military base.

Jeezus people, think.
Bob

Middleton, WI

#3 Sep 17, 2013
see the light wrote:
Its not the guns. They can't shoot on their own, its the mentally ill people that can't control their evil thoughts that shoot guns.
Brilliant...well said...agree fully.
Faster Cars

Chino, CA

#5 Sep 17, 2013
Now will come another push by Pelosi and her Bunch calling for even stricter control on firearms.

Well maybe not, being the shooter was black. Focusing on race like it was in Sandy Hook, might cause 'racial tension' and bad for their images.

Maybe their strategy will be to lump this lone gunman mass murder with other's while only showing images of white shooter's and not making any references about the L.A.P.D. cop or the one who shot up the Mothers Day Parade in New Orleans.
Really

Las Vegas, NV

#6 Sep 17, 2013
Pass a law that lets EVERYONE carry a gun. Can't have criminals as the only one with guns.
People will have second thoughts about going on a shooting spree. We all know that it is too late to have gun control. Our own Gov't aids in guns being everywhere anyways.
Why should the unstable and criminals be the only ones with guns. Lets arm America.
Next we need to fix the Judicial system that is broken and rewards criminals instead of victims.

“Pompous pontificator”

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#7 Sep 17, 2013
No lesson learned from Fort Hood. Insufficient security and response capability onsite and nearby. Another 'no guns allowed' soft target.

“Emblem of the Brave and True”

Since: Sep 10

Los Angeles, CA

#8 Sep 17, 2013
Guns dont kill people, they just make it easier to kill alot of people. Our second amendment provides people a right to create militias and have them well armed so that the government can be fought with if they start abusing their powers. That was fine in 1785. The U.S. has nukes. Bringing a gun to a nuclear fight is like bringing a knife to a gun fight.The second amendment needs restrictions the same way the first amendment does. This country needs to utilize diplomacy instead of encouraging gun sales. Our nation makes a profit every time we go to war. Arm the Syrians? Arm the Iraqis, arm the Afghanis? If there is a reason to put an Ak-47 in the hands of a child we will find it. Because once that kid is dead there's 10 more willing to buy more guns and ammo to avenge their death and where are they gonna buy them from? U.s. Guns dont kill people. People with guns kill people. Guns kill societies and peaceful coexistence for profit.
fox-KKK-news

Livonia, MI

#9 Sep 17, 2013
. The dead Negro was hearing voices according to Military officials; he was experiencing mental illness. NRA blocks all background check legislation attempts

. NRA and racist Republicans are responsible for those deaths... They believe only Whites buy guns to kill Negroes, and background checks would only affect Whites.... well, Fox News and GOP supremacists are wrong, again. Guns do not discriminate... Blacks and Whites are getting killed by guns.
more

Santa Fe, NM

#10 Sep 17, 2013
see the light wrote:
Its not the guns. They can't shoot on their own, its the mentally ill people that can't control their evil thoughts that shoot guns. Of course since he's Black its most likely ok-he was some how justified.
racist crp. Shows the gun nut mentality (or lack thereof).

The gun nuts enable the mentally ill to get personal arsenals.
Cordwainer Trout

Elizabethtown, KY

#11 Sep 17, 2013
The latest is the shooter was under psychiatric care and was taking drugs for hearing voices in his head.

Given the level of intelligence in our military since allowing anti-American elements to openly serve, it may be that Nidal Hasan, the Fort Hood shooter and military psychiatrist, was this shooter's doctor. Obama made sure Hasan continued receiving his military pay while awaiting trial, so he may have given an executive order to maintain Hasan's status as a functioning psychiatrist.

As with the kids shooting each other, the increased psychometric medications being given the "disabled" so they can get SSI, there seems a connection between psychiatrists, psychiatric drugs and psychotic murderers, who just happen to be mostly Black and on public assistance of some sort.
Robert

Douglasville, GA

#12 Sep 17, 2013
They are not clear yet about what happened in the yard and expicially before with the individual involved but they are ready to legislate.

"Congress must stop shirking its responsibility and resume a thoughtful debate on gun violence in this country. We must do more to stop this endless loss of life,"

Is congress so full of themselves that they think they can legislate violence away. If they are why don't they start with the thousands killed in our big cities instead of a few in the yard.

If you are really serious about doing the most good you would start by looking at who is responsible for the majority of our killings and do something about that.
Besara

Des Moines, IA

#13 Sep 17, 2013
Nomos Soter wrote:
Guns dont kill people, they just make it easier to kill alot of people. Our second amendment provides people a right to create militias and have them well armed so that the government can be fought with if they start abusing their powers. That was fine in 1785. The U.S. has nukes. Bringing a gun to a nuclear fight is like bringing a knife to a gun fight.The second amendment needs restrictions the same way the first amendment does. This country needs to utilize diplomacy instead of encouraging gun sales. Our nation makes a profit every time we go to war. Arm the Syrians? Arm the Iraqis, arm the Afghanis? If there is a reason to put an Ak-47 in the hands of a child we will find it. Because once that kid is dead there's 10 more willing to buy more guns and ammo to avenge their death and where are they gonna buy them from? U.s. Guns dont kill people. People with guns kill people. Guns kill societies and peaceful coexistence for profit.
The 2nd Amendment affirms the right of the people to keep and bear arms. It mentions nothing about the right to create militias. You guns vs. nukes strawman is typical of your type of reasoning.
What restrictions on the 1st Amendment are you referring to?
And your comment about putting an AK-47 in the hands of children shows you really can't debate the topic sans hyperbole and hanky-twisting histrionics.
People kill. Guns don't.
Besara

Des Moines, IA

#14 Sep 17, 2013
fox-KKK-news wrote:
. The dead Negro was hearing voices according to Military officials; he was experiencing mental illness. NRA blocks all background check legislation attempts
. NRA and racist Republicans are responsible for those deaths... They believe only Whites buy guns to kill Negroes, and background checks would only affect Whites.... well, Fox News and GOP supremacists are wrong, again. Guns do not discriminate... Blacks and Whites are getting killed by guns.
Lying sack of slug dung.
Besara

Des Moines, IA

#15 Sep 17, 2013
more wrote:
<quoted text>
racist crp. Shows the gun nut mentality (or lack thereof).
The gun nuts enable the mentally ill to get personal arsenals.
More fodder from the mental eunuch.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#16 Sep 17, 2013
Another shooting, everyone "outraged" on all sides, and once again NOTHING will change.

Crazy people will keep getting guns and keep killing other people.

That's why I avoid all people whenever possible....
Ahole

Frisco, TX

#17 Sep 17, 2013
fox-KKK-news wrote:
. The dead Negro was hearing voices according to Military officials; he was experiencing mental illness. NRA blocks all background check legislation attempts
. NRA and racist Republicans are responsible for those deaths... They believe only Whites buy guns to kill Negroes, and background checks would only affect Whites.... well, Fox News and GOP supremacists are wrong, again. Guns do not discriminate... Blacks and Whites are getting killed by guns.
. Does your mother know your that stupid?R all libs that stupid?more gun free zones = more mass shootings.if an armed MP was in the building he could have stopped this POS.this is a different time in the world,no utopia as U libs think.liberials R afraid 2 tackle mental health because half of them will be institutionalized.quit letting the stupid f?cks out.we live in R own $hit that we make.
serfs up

Ormond Beach, FL

#18 Sep 17, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
Another shooting, everyone "outraged" on all sides, and once again NOTHING will change.
Crazy people will keep getting guns and keep killing other people.
That's why I avoid all people whenever possible....
That's because you shove your lifestyle to others and charge them for it. How about the government eliminating every law of tyranny and getting rid of the guns and bullets bought to tame the population. This person was another product of progressive policies. Driving people crazy is the agenda. Using a weapon is secondary. We are moving nearing between 60% to 70% of the college students being women. This is stupid. This is going to end up with us going back to the middle ages of pure violence. Imagine all of the parents "Treyvoning". Crap the kid out and being selfish with our government guaranteed jobs and finding the child a pain in the azz. And they are being "paid". The ghetto mantra that is. But there ae a high percentage of people who have the same problems who stick it out. You ripped out religion and replaced it with gaia and those troublesome cultists are just no good. But realism is the survival of the fittest. Which you forget. And you can't have that. As many in your fold would be field hands somewhere. The modern American Hitler waiting in the wings will fix all of our problems because of you azz holes. And people will vote for that if promises are made and things get bad enough. So may I suggest you live by your word and get rid of the safety nets that are taxing us to a new dark age.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#19 Sep 17, 2013
serfs up wrote:
<quoted text> That's because you shove your lifestyle to others and charge them for it. How about the government eliminating every law of tyranny and getting rid of the guns and bullets bought to tame the population. This person was another product of progressive policies. Driving people crazy is the agenda. Using a weapon is secondary. We are moving nearing between 60% to 70% of the college students being women. This is stupid. This is going to end up with us going back to the middle ages of pure violence. Imagine all of the parents "Treyvoning". Crap the kid out and being selfish with our government guaranteed jobs and finding the child a pain in the azz. And they are being "paid". The ghetto mantra that is. But there ae a high percentage of people who have the same problems who stick it out. You ripped out religion and replaced it with gaia and those troublesome cultists are just no good. But realism is the survival of the fittest. Which you forget. And you can't have that. As many in your fold would be field hands somewhere. The modern American Hitler waiting in the wings will fix all of our problems because of you azz holes. And people will vote for that if promises are made and things get bad enough. So may I suggest you live by your word and get rid of the safety nets that are taxing us to a new dark age.
You really need to work on your English composition skills. I'd suggest you take a class or two at a local community college.

“O'er the land of the free ? ”

Since: Jan 09

Don't Tread On Me

#20 Sep 17, 2013
White House press secretary Jay Carney told reporters today that a rapid response team investigating the shooting confirmed their was no second shooter on the grassy knoll.

In other news at the White House the Department of Homeland Security announced they would be modeling their background check system on the
US Military system because in the words of one unnamed White House source " The military is the best at conducting background checks ".
serfs up

Ormond Beach, FL

#21 Sep 17, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
You really need to work on your English composition skills. I'd suggest you take a class or two at a local community college.
when the nazis were exterminating vermin like you, the same things were being said. When it happens again, it will be people who you think are allies that will turn on you. You Saul Alinsky lover you!

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