States with strict gun laws found to have fewer shooting deaths

Mar 7, 2013 Full story: Reuters 5,070

States that have more laws restricting gun ownership have lower rates of death from shootings, both suicides and homicides, a study by researchers at Boston Children's Hospital and Harvard University found.

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#1424 Mar 19, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>I agree.

As I've been saying all along, EVERY right CAN be restricted with common sense justification. Therefore NO right is absolute, including gun rights.

Thanks for proving my point once again.

Btw, common sense dictates that assualt weapons should be banned, since they are designed to kill as many people in as short a period of time as possible.
It is not the right that is restricted. It is the definition of "The People".

Prove that is what they are designed for. Define what makes an "Assault Weapon" an "Assault Weapon".

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#1425 Mar 19, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, you mean like when they defined "The People" to be "The White People"?

Or when they defined "The People" to be "The Male People"?

Or when they defined "The People" to be "The Christian People"?

Yup, that's what happens when you think "The People" can be defined to mean anything other than every citizen in the country.

Yes, the SCOTUS has ruled on an individual right to own guns, with many restrictions & regulations of that right premitted.
Again with the race crap. That's a sure sign, you have realized you are wrong but are too proud to admit it. So you distract with race in hopes that people will run from that subject.

Ah we added the gender, and religion issues as well. You must really be panicking. Lol

Most of those restrictions and regulations have not been ruled on by the SCOTUS. Most of the ones that have, have been found unconstitutional. The one that was found to be constitutional that I can think of, would have been ruled differently if the requested military report had been presented to the SCOTUS in a timely manner.

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Atlanta, GA

#1426 Mar 19, 2013
Get well soon Trayvon, we're all pulling for you.

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Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1427 Mar 19, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>we do, its the Modern liberal New Left progressive morons that want to rewrite the Gun Laws to benefit the criminals and why Conservatives are against changing them.
And yet you didn't even know you could legally open carry in 43 states.......

Yes we know you criminals are against gun laws.

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Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1428 Mar 19, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
<quoted text>
You Re so juvenile in your arguments. Please show where I said we should let felons carry guns because we can't prove they will commit a crime with it. It is already illegal for a felon to have a gun, unless he or she goes through the very stringent application process to regain that right.
You simply don't like concealed carry because you are a criminal, and want to know for sure if your potential victim is armed or not.
Are you absolutely sure of that? Let's have a contest then. You open carry. I will conceal my firearm. Let's see which of us can draw and be in firing position the quickest.
So criminals always make rational decisions right? They are cracked out and think clearly? What if they attempt to take your gun from its holster? That is when the struggle over the gun begins. Then, rather than a dead or detained criminal, the risk for collateral damage goes up.
Yes, all you criminals like to conceal your guns, which is why I open carry mine- it scares off the wimps like you.

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Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1429 Mar 19, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
<quoted text>
It is not the right that is restricted. It is the definition of "The People".
Prove that is what they are designed for. Define what makes an "Assault Weapon" an "Assault Weapon".
See federal definition if you need help.......

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Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1430 Mar 19, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
<quoted text>
Again with the race crap. That's a sure sign, you have realized you are wrong but are too proud to admit it. So you distract with race in hopes that people will run from that subject.
Ah we added the gender, and religion issues as well. You must really be panicking. Lol
Most of those restrictions and regulations have not been ruled on by the SCOTUS. Most of the ones that have, have been found unconstitutional. The one that was found to be constitutional that I can think of, would have been ruled differently if the requested military report had been presented to the SCOTUS in a timely manner.
And yet even your fellow gun-nutter on the court said the 2nd amendment isn't absolute and can be restricted & regulated.

Just can't get around that one no matter how much you whine.

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#1431 Mar 19, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, all you criminals like to conceal your guns, which is why I open carry mine- it scares off the wimps like you.
Lmao. Yeah yeah yeah. What happens when you go into a store, and they ask you to leave because you are open carrying?
I don't have that issue.

Btw, calling someone a criminal for concealed carry is ironic, because those who possess a CCP have undergone a way more stringent background check than someone simply buying a gun.

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#1432 Mar 19, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
And yet you didn't even know you could legally open carry in 43 states.......
Yes we know you criminals are against gun laws.
You go got that wrong too which you got to understand the terminology & the categories of the open carry laws not like you are insinuating as if one open law is the same.

Open carry in the United States

Today in the United States, the laws vary from state to state regarding open carry of firearms. The categories are defined as follows:

Permissive open carry states

A state has passed full preemption of all firearms laws. They permit open carry to all non-prohibited citizens without permit or license. Open carry is lawful on foot and in a motor vehicle. It must be noted that while open carry may be legal in such jurisdictions per se, persons openly carrying firearms may be detained and cited by law enforcement officials for disorderly conduct or disturbing the peace in certain locations and circumstances where openly carrying could cause public alarm.

Licensed open carry states

A state has passed full preemption of all firearms laws. They permit open carry of a handgun to all non-prohibited citizens once they have been issued a permit or license. Open carry of a handgun is lawful on foot and in a motor vehicle.

Anomalous open carry states

In these states, open carry of a handgun is generally lawful, but the state may lack preemption or there may be other significant restrictions. The limitations and/or lack of pre-emption may mean that certain areas of these states are, in their judicial system and law enforcement societies, not very friendly towards the practice, although this is not true in all of these states.

Non-permissive open carry states

In these states, open carry of a handgun is not lawful, or is only lawful under such a limited set of circumstances that public carry is prohibited. Such limited circumstances may include when hunting, or while traveling to/from hunting locations, while on property controlled by the person carrying, or for lawful self-defense.
Rural open carry states
In these states, open carry is generally permitted only in unincorporated areas of counties where population densities are below statutorily-defined thresholds, and local authorities have enacted ordinances permitting open carry in such jurisdictions (California). As such, these states are also regarded as Non-Permissive open carry states.

Jurisdictions in the United StatesIn the United States, the laws concerning open carry vary by state and sometimes by municipality

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_carry_in_th...

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#1433 Mar 19, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>See federal definition if you need help.......
I have. You have too. It made you realize that the definition is strictly based on cosmetic appearance rather than anything different in firing mechanism or rate of fire when compared to any other semi auto rifle.
You just didn't want to answer the question and admit that.

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#1436 Mar 19, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>And yet even your fellow gun-nutter on the court said the 2nd amendment isn't absolute and can be restricted & regulated.

Just can't get around that one no matter how much you whine.
So what? A lot of people like power. It does not make them right.

You forget two things. The government works for the citizens which pay their salaries and pensions. And the gun owners say the second is absolute. Do you think the SCOTUS will defend their decision with their life? I bet the wont.

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#1438 Mar 19, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
<quoted text>
Lmao. Yeah yeah yeah. What happens when you go into a store, and they ask you to leave because you are open carrying?
I don't have that issue.
Btw, calling someone a criminal for concealed carry is ironic, because those who possess a CCP have undergone a way more stringent background check than someone simply buying a gun.
Exactly.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#1439 Mar 19, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
You are a liar.
Not only is there a gun show loophole, the gun show loop hole has been closed in several states.
And soon: with universal background checks, there will not be a gun show loophole.
I have asked you repeatedly to explain to the group exactly what the gun show loophole is, and yet, you have been unable to do so. Why is that? I have already explained to you how there is no such thing, despite you panty-twisting libtards insisting that one exists with no proof of such. Coem on. Put up or STFU.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#1440 Mar 19, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, all you criminals like to conceal your guns, which is why I open carry mine- it scares off the wimps like you.
Just out of curiosity, what make and model do you carry? Caliber?

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#1441 Mar 19, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>You go got that wrong too which you got to understand the terminology & the categories of the open carry laws not like you are insinuating as if one open law is the same.
Open carry in the United States
Today in the United States, the laws vary from state to state regarding open carry of firearms. The categories are defined as follows:
Permissive open carry states
A state has passed full preemption of all firearms laws. They permit open carry to all non-prohibited citizens without permit or license. Open carry is lawful on foot and in a motor vehicle. It must be noted that while open carry may be legal in such jurisdictions per se, persons openly carrying firearms may be detained and cited by law enforcement officials for disorderly conduct or disturbing the peace in certain locations and circumstances where openly carrying could cause public alarm.
Licensed open carry states
A state has passed full preemption of all firearms laws. They permit open carry of a handgun to all non-prohibited citizens once they have been issued a permit or license. Open carry of a handgun is lawful on foot and in a motor vehicle.
Anomalous open carry states
In these states, open carry of a handgun is generally lawful, but the state may lack preemption or there may be other significant restrictions. The limitations and/or lack of pre-emption may mean that certain areas of these states are, in their judicial system and law enforcement societies, not very friendly towards the practice, although this is not true in all of these states.
Non-permissive open carry states
In these states, open carry of a handgun is not lawful, or is only lawful under such a limited set of circumstances that public carry is prohibited. Such limited circumstances may include when hunting, or while traveling to/from hunting locations, while on property controlled by the person carrying, or for lawful self-defense.
Rural open carry states
In these states, open carry is generally permitted only in unincorporated areas of counties where population densities are below statutorily-defined thresholds, and local authorities have enacted ordinances permitting open carry in such jurisdictions (California). As such, these states are also regarded as Non-Permissive open carry states.
Jurisdictions in the United StatesIn the United States, the laws concerning open carry vary by state and sometimes by municipality
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_carry_in_th...
Here's an excellent book to keep handy if you do a lot of traveling between states: http://www.gunlawguide.com/

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#1442 Mar 19, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
See federal definition if you need help.......
You mean the federal definition as defined by Diane Feinstein? The hypocritical bitch who wants to deny everyone the right to conceal carry permit, but has a CHP herself? The lying bitch who claims she is a firearms expert because she has seen "millions of pictures of firearms"?(Hell, if that is true, then I am a f-ing gynecologist.)
The definition that includes items such as grenade launchers, bayonet lugs, pistol grips, thumbhole stocks, extendable stocks, and a ton of other features that have absolutely NOTHING to do with how the weapon functions, but makes panty-twisting libtards piss their little panties? That definition?

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#1443 Mar 19, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
<quoted text>
Here's an excellent book to keep handy if you do a lot of traveling between states: http://www.gunlawguide.com/
Thanks, this is beneficial since I do travel between states which alot people dont realize how gun laws are different from state to state.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#1444 Mar 19, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks, this is beneficial since I do travel between states which alot people dont realize how gun laws are different from state to state.
And it is updated every year.

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#1445 Mar 19, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
<quoted text>
And it is updated every year.
I seen that too which is good which I just bought the 2013 version off of ebay since they had them listed there too.

Since: Jan 13

Anderson, IN

#1446 Mar 20, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks, this is beneficial since I do travel between states which alot people dont realize how gun laws are different from state to state.
The book is great but I prefer http://www.handgunlaw.us/ because the laws change with the breeze it seems. This site updates frequently as the changes are made.

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