States with strict gun laws found to ...

States with strict gun laws found to have fewer shooting deaths

There are 5075 comments on the Reuters story from Mar 7, 2013, titled States with strict gun laws found to have fewer shooting deaths. In it, Reuters reports that:

States that have more laws restricting gun ownership have lower rates of death from shootings, both suicides and homicides, a study by researchers at Boston Children's Hospital and Harvard University found.

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“Stop the Brain Rot”

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#5317 Jun 18, 2013
Anti-Fascism wrote:
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Maybe for those who agreed with the Nazi fascist movement, but certainly not for those who were against fascism.
It's logical for any fascist government to severely restrict (at least only those held for supporters of the regime) or ban all arms from the population, since this makes controlling the people much easier.
That's a fact and, if you deny it, you only show how clueless *you* are.
Those who seek to disarm us are thus suspect of being fascist tyrants in one form or another. You give off that stench yourself.
The stench you give off is the usual dishonesty of the far Right and of gun-thugs.

Virtually EVERYONE in Germany supported Hitler, and he relaxed gun laws for EVERYONE except Jews and a few other relatively small, proscribed groups. Who even HAD they been armed couldn't have overcome popular opposition, much less the Wehrmacht.

Dumbass.

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#5318 Jun 18, 2013
Anti-Fascism wrote:
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I know how to read and comprehend. Thanks.
He calls them "antis", as in "anti-gun," yet you tried to make it seem like being "anti-gun" is thus "anti-murder of school children," and that ..EDITED....
You said this, liar:

"So if you're equating the legality of good citizens owning certain firearms as being supposedly "pro-murder of school children," then.."

I wasn't. You didn't read it right. And you're not stating it correctly in THIS post, either.

That's because you're a liar and strawmanner, like most Righties. Dishonesty is your bread and meat.

Now GFY...
Anti-Fascism

San Jose, CA

#5319 Jun 18, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
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You said this, liar:
"So if you're equating the legality of good citizens owning certain firearms as being supposedly "pro-murder of school children," then.."
I wasn't. You didn't read it right. And you're not stating it correctly in THIS post, either.
That's because you're a liar and strawmanner, like most Righties. Dishonesty is your bread and meat.
Now GFY...
I switched it up to show it from the other angle, clueless snake. You lose.
Anti-Fascism

San Jose, CA

#5320 Jun 18, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
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The stench you give off is the usual dishonesty of the far Right and of gun-thugs.
Virtually EVERYONE in Germany supported Hitler, and he relaxed gun laws for EVERYONE except Jews and a few other relatively small, proscribed groups. Who even HAD they been armed couldn't have overcome popular opposition, much less the Wehrmacht.
Dumbass.
Just like he let other foreign nations fight along side the German Nazis military in different areas since they agreed with the Nazi fascist movement. That doesn't mean those Nazis genuinely cared for and liked these non-Germanic groups though and, of course, if the Nazis had won the war, they'd eventually invade those nations who fought with the Nazis, then steal their land, wealth, etc.

So, I am not denying that they'd arm FASCIST SUPPORTERS but, they would not want anti-fascists armed because this would cause the fascists more trouble.

Many in the governments today seek to severely restrict and/or ban arms because they're afraid they'll have to fight them one day if those fascists ever turn on the people.

You're apart of that fascist movement, whether you know it or not, thus you're a fascist pawn, either way.

All fascist governments seek to disarm the populace in the end, since it makes enslaving and/or controlling them even easier than if totally armed.

You're a dunce for not understand this. What an embarrassment you are to yourself.

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#5321 Jun 18, 2013
Anti-Fascism wrote:
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I switched it up to show it from the other angle, clueless snake. You lose.
Yeah, the CROOKED angle...the one you always pursue,given the chance.

LOL!

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#5322 Jun 18, 2013
Anti-Fascism wrote:
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Just like he let other foreign nations fight along side the German Nazis military in different areas since they agreed with the Nazi fascist movement. That doesn't mean those Nazis genuinely cared for and liked these non-Germanic groups though and, of course, if the Nazis had won the war, they'd eventually invade those nations who fought with the Nazis, then steal their land, wealth, etc.
So, I am not denying that they'd arm FASCIST SUPPORTERS but, they would not want anti-fascists armed because this would cause the fascists more trouble.
Many in the governments today seek to severely restrict and/or ban arms because they're afraid they'll have to fight them one day if those fascists ever turn on the people.
You're apart of that fascist movement, whether you know it or not, thus you're a fascist pawn, either way.
All fascist governments seek to disarm the populace in the end, since it makes enslaving and/or controlling them even easier than if totally armed.
You're a dunce for not understand this. What an embarrassment you are to yourself.
Your wallowing, spinning, and evasions are MOST amusing. Bottom line? YOu got slapped down again with FACTS, and are desperately trying to recover instead of apologizing for LYING.

Or I could be nice to you, and say "being wrong." But I won't, because you're not nice yourself.

The only embarrassment here are your posts, asshat. Take that, seat yourself on it, and start spinning....:)

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#5323 Jun 18, 2013
And of course, the whole idiotic Rightie "but HITLER restricted guns!" BS claim is made even more when you realize that the DEMOCRATIC Weimar Republic, which preceeded it, restricted personal firearms severely. And yet you'll hear these same Rightie idiots claim that it's "logical for fascist governments to restrict or ban arms" as if gun control = fascism.

No, idiots, FASCISM = fascism. If your people want a fascist leader, they'll support him and all the democracy....or gun control...in the world won't be of much use.

Think of that the next time the gun fascists try to demand stuff from you, or lie and deny that their guns are killing tens of thousands of Americans a year.

Mass murder....now THAT'S fascism, folks.

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#5324 Jun 18, 2013
Anti-Fascism wrote:
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So if you're equating the legality of good citizens owning certain firearms as being supposedly "pro-murder of school children," then ..EDITED....
tha Professor wrote:
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No. Learn to read, then get back to me, idiot.
Uh, perfesser, if you actually clarified what you DID say or intended, right after your word "No", more folks may get a better idea of what the hell you were saying.
Just saying.

Oh and BTW, we can read, perhaps it is the fault of the writer and that be the one who needs to learn about how an exchange of ideas works.

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#5325 Jun 18, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
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No substance...childish...off-top ic...personality-driven.
Yep, typical RightWingNut post, for sure. It's all your side's got, apparently.
Dismissed!:)
Uh, perfesser, just so you know, the evidence, written by >YOU<, submitted right here > "No. Learn to read, then get back to me, idiot." proves that your assertion is incorrect.

Is that all >YOU< got? Empty accusations that fall on deaf ears? That's it?
Uh, OK.

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#5326 Jun 18, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
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The Nazis actually liberalized Germany's gun-possession laws. It was the preceding Weimar Republic which had stricter gun controls in place.
Oh dear, starting out with a lie isn't that convincing, is it? LOL
"All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach."
Adolf Hitler

You been "reached".

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#5327 Jun 18, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
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The Nazis actually liberalized Germany's gun-possession laws. It was the preceding Weimar Republic which had stricter gun controls in place.
Oh dear, starting out with a lie isn't that convincing, is it? LOL
"Demoralize the enemy from within by surprise, terror, sabotage, assassination. This is the war of the future."
Adolf Hitler

Note the word "terror" right up ^there^.

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#5328 Jun 18, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
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The Nazis actually liberalized Germany's gun-possession laws. It was the preceding Weimar Republic which had stricter gun controls in place.
Oh dear, starting out with a lie isn't that convincing, is it? LOL
"By the skillful and sustained use of propaganda, one can make a people see even heaven as hell or an extremely wretched life as paradise."
Adolf Hitler

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#5329 Jun 18, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
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The Nazis actually liberalized Germany's gun-possession laws. It was the preceding Weimar Republic which had stricter gun controls in place.
Oh dear, starting out with a lie isn't that convincing, is it? LOL
"How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think."
Adolf Hitler

He's talking about >you< - kid.

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#5330 Jun 18, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
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The Nazis actually liberalized Germany's gun-possession laws. It was the preceding Weimar Republic which had stricter gun controls in place.
Oh dear, starting out with a lie isn't that convincing, is it? LOL
"The very first essential for success is a perpetually constant and regular employment of violence."
Adolf Hitler

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#5331 Jun 18, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
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The stench you give off is the usual dishonesty of the far Right and of gun-thugs.
Virtually EVERYONE in Germany supported Hitler, and he relaxed gun laws for EVERYONE except Jews and a few other relatively small, proscribed groups. Who even HAD they been armed couldn't have overcome popular opposition, much less the Wehrmacht.
Dumbass.
How come not the Jews?
What's up with that?
What happened to the Jews in Germany? Did they live in peace after they were forcefully disarmed, because they had been disarmed and therefore there would be no gun deaths?

You keep claiming that disarming stops deaths. How come your example ^there^ proves the opposite is true?

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#5332 Jun 18, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
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You said this, liar:
"So if you're equating the legality of good citizens owning certain firearms as being supposedly "pro-murder of school children," then.."
I wasn't. You didn't read it right. And you're not stating it correctly in THIS post, either.
That's because you're a liar and strawmanner, like most Righties. Dishonesty is your bread and meat.
Now GFY...
Look here > "I wasn't." and then here > "You didn't read it right.".
Now, just what hell WERE you saying and WHAT did you mean to say.

Since you claim that the reader did not "read it right", then it obviously was written in such a way as to allow for error. Sooooooo, is up to YOU to clarify what YOU wrote. It was confusing.

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#5333 Jun 18, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
And of course, the whole idiotic Rightie "but HITLER restricted guns!" BS claim is made even more ...
Interesting.
It was >YOU< who just got through explaining that Hitler DID in fact restrict gun ownership to select groups.
You just shot down your own hot air balloon - kid.

Again.
What happened to that group which, you just got done telling us WAS in fact forcefully disarmed?
How did that work out for them?
Anti-Fascism

United States

#5334 Jun 18, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
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Your wallowing, spinning, and evasions are MOST amusing. Bottom line? YOu got slapped down again with FACTS, and are desperately trying to recover instead of apologizing for LYING.
Or I could be nice to you, and say "being wrong." But I won't, because you're not nice yourself.
The only embarrassment here are your posts, asshat. Take that, seat yourself on it, and start spinning....:)
Yeah; I'll admit that I didn't look into it specifically, only heard of it and read many quotes about it online; others say those quotes are not real; not sure if true or not.

This was minor compared to the smackdown I've given you on every other subject concerning gun ownership, the 2nd Amendment, etc.

So soak it in for "everything" it's worth to you, as pathetic as this "win" might be.:-)

Anyway, tyrants will always disarm those who they see as a threat to their power. Thus you, and others, are revealing who you are inside by backing up these tyrants seeking to infringe upon our rights to keep and bear arms.

In the end, you're the losers.
spocko

Oakland, CA

#5335 Jun 18, 2013
Anti-Fascism wrote:
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I know how to read and comprehend. Thanks.
He calls them "antis", as in "anti-gun," yet you tried to make it seem like being "anti-gun" is thus "anti-murder of school children," and that "pro-gun" is supposedly "pro-murder-of-school-chi ldren," since criminals have killed other kids using those guns; therefore, I'm switching it around on you:
If you equate the availability of guns, and/or the mass ownership thereof, to the population as a whole, with the tiny minority of criminals who abuse them in murders, then you must also equate the military arms owned by the government today with all of the criminal tyrant governments of history (and present day) who used theirs to murder hundreds of millions of people.
In this case, we must severely restrict government weaponry in their hands!
If you pick one yet ignore the other, you therefore contradict your whole point! Thus you look like a silly, confused, ignorant hypocrite.
Your gunloon argument is a total none-starter. Every country has certain restrictive gun laws. In every country a person must be able to show genuine cause to carry a firearm, such as for self-defense or hunting. Israel even requires speaking some Hebrew to legally acquire a fire arm. The United States, with less than 5 percent of the world's population, has about 50 percent of the world's civilian-owned guns, it ranks number one in firearms per capita. The U.S. also has the highest homicide-by-firearm rate among the world's most developed nations.

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#5336 Jun 18, 2013
spocko wrote:
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Your gunloon argument is a total none-starter. Every country has certain restrictive gun laws. In every country a person must be able to show genuine cause to carry a firearm, such as for self-defense or hunting. Israel even requires speaking some Hebrew to legally acquire a fire arm. The United States, with less than 5 percent of the world's population, has about 50 percent of the world's civilian-owned guns, it ranks number one in firearms per capita. The U.S. also has the highest homicide-by-firearm rate among the world's most developed nations.
Who gives a damn if the rest of the world infringes upon their own citizen's natural born right to self defense?
Who gives a damn if the rest of the world is socialist?

In case you did not get the memo, the USA is different. It was DESIGNED to be different.

Your "rest of the world" so called argument is laughable. It is akin to a teenager saying to their parents, "But, but, but, ALL the other kids are doing it."
Remember how well that crap worked for you last night?

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