States with strict gun laws found to have fewer shooting deaths

Mar 7, 2013 Full story: Reuters 5,070

States that have more laws restricting gun ownership have lower rates of death from shootings, both suicides and homicides, a study by researchers at Boston Children's Hospital and Harvard University found.

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correlation

Santa Fe, NM

#4703 May 8, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Released: May 7, 2013
Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware
Pace of Decline Slows in Past Decade
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/05/07/gun...
And this while firearm ownership has SOARED:
More than 100 million such checks have been made in the last decade
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics
PROVING beyond ALL shadow of doubt, that MORE GUNS = LESS CRIME.
isn't causation, bonehead. The discussion posted above tells the researchers conclusions and it has nothing to do with your lie.
spocko

Oakland, CA

#4704 May 8, 2013
Socialism is for Sissies wrote:
<quoted text>Because law abiding citizens that own them don't commit crimes with them. And, they are locked up where thieves can't get them. Why?
So we agree - your guns must be on your hip in your hand or in your gunvault - no exceptions?
spocko

Oakland, CA

#4705 May 8, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Released: May 7, 2013
Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware
Pace of Decline Slows in Past Decade
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/05/07/gun...
And this while firearm ownership has SOARED:
More than 100 million such checks have been made in the last decade
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics
PROVING beyond ALL shadow of doubt, that MORE GUNS = LESS CRIME.
It is really, really sad when ones life rotates entirely around guns and more guns. Gun violence dropped dramatically nationwide over the past two decades, but the fact remains, over three-quarters of all homicides are still committed with a firearm. And most importantly, statistics do not offer any reasons for the decrease in gun violence.
Criminologists at the FBI have said that explanations for the decline remain elusive and credit it to modern, highly effective police tactics as well as gang violence that also declined at the same rate.

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#4706 May 8, 2013
correlation wrote:
<quoted text>
isn't causation, bonehead. The discussion posted above tells the researchers conclusions and it has nothing to do with your lie.
FACTS don't lie, treasonous scum:

United States Crime Rates 1960 - 2011 in relation to Gun Control Laws/NICS Background checks

(Important note: The number of background checks does not equate to the number of firearms sold. As multiple guns; both Long Guns, and Hand Guns, can be purchased during a NICS background check).

The statistics from the chart were gathered from the Disaster Center referenced above. To which were added the last two columns on the right. Which contain information concerning U.S. gun law enactment periods. As well as crime rate variances, and finally; N.I.C.S.,(National Instant Criminal Background Check), numbers,

As it is plain to see, crime rates started a dramatic rise after the 1968 Gun Control Act. During the years 1981-84 crime rates either leveled out or dropped. From 1985-91 the overall crime rate again rose sharply. During the year 1992 the crime rates again leveled. While in 1993 most crime rates had fallen. Which fails to explain the justification for the Unconstitutional “Brady Bill”.

The 'Gun Control' laws that have been unconstitutionally passed have also had an effect on Firearm sales in the United States. According to National Shooting Sports Foundation,(NSSF), and FBI NICS records. Firearms sales have increased by 54.1% between 2002-2011*. Thus making the claim by John Lott in his book; “More Guns, Less Crime”, a statistical FACT.

'Gun Control laws' also seem to be providing an impetus for increased firearms sales. Which is hardly what the 'gun control' crowd desired, I'm sure. That is of course, unless they are stock holders in firearms related businesses....
http://gunshowonthenet.blogspot.com/2013/04/u...

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#4707 May 8, 2013
spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
It is really, really sad when ones life rotates entirely around guns and more guns. Gun violence dropped dramatically nationwide over the past two decades, but the fact remains, over three-quarters of all homicides are still committed with a firearm. And most importantly, statistics do not offer any reasons for the decrease in gun violence.
Criminologists at the FBI have said that explanations for the decline remain elusive and credit it to modern, highly effective police tactics as well as gang violence that also declined at the same rate.
Committed with STOLEN FIREARMS in the hands of GANG-BANGERS.

And the TRUE answer is OBVIOUS: MORE GUNS = LESS CRIME.

Just try to prove it wrong. Come on traitor-troll, let's see you try.
I see

Santa Fe, NM

#4708 May 8, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
<quoted text>
FACTS don't lie,
You take a sht every morning and the sun comes up like clockwork - so you caused the sun to come up.

Bonehead!
spocko

Oakland, CA

#4709 May 8, 2013
Socialism is for Sissies wrote:
<quoted text>Where's the outcry for the deaths that outnumber gun violence when it comes to alcohol related deaths????
Time for alcohol control and perhaps banning alcohol all together.
Oh how original, Gunloons like to compare guns to cars, knifes, forks, scissors, baseball bats, sharks, cigarettes and now alcohol. Anyway, you never heard of Alcoholics Anonymous or Mothers against drunken driving? There are thousands of Drug & Alcohol Rehab Centers across the Nation, perhaps you ought to put on your thinking cap and come up with something a bit closer to reality eh? In the gunloons fantasy world, the 2nd Amendment is hallowed ground and needs to be absolute – NOTHING in this world that is absolute. The 2nd Amendment is nothing more than a bunch of words on a piece of paper put together by a bunch of middle-aged, upper-class white guys some 220 years ago.
spocko

Oakland, CA

#4710 May 8, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Committed with STOLEN FIREARMS in the hands of GANG-BANGERS.
And the TRUE answer is OBVIOUS: MORE GUNS = LESS CRIME.
Just try to prove it wrong. Come on traitor-troll, let's see you try.
Okay loony toons time is up, back in the cage. Criminologists at the FBI say you are wrong! In the gunloons fantasy world, the 2nd Amendment is hallowed ground and needs to be absolute – NOTHING in this world that is absolute. The 2nd Amendment is nothing more than a bunch of words on a piece of paper put together by a bunch of middle-aged, upper-class white guys some 220 years ago.

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#4711 May 8, 2013
spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay loony toons time is up, back in the cage. Criminologists at the FBI say you are wrong! In the gunloons fantasy world, the 2nd Amendment is hallowed ground and needs to be absolute – NOTHING in this world that is absolute. The 2nd Amendment is nothing more than a bunch of words on a piece of paper put together by a bunch of middle-aged, upper-class white guys some 220 years ago.
Ah! So now we see your true colors. How does it feel being a perpetual LOSER?
Yeah

Honolulu, HI

#4712 May 8, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah! So now we see your true colors. How does it feel being a perpetual LOSER?
It was already clear what the 2nd Amendment people thought son.

This is why they can't see the whole picture but selected pieces as needed only.
spocko

Oakland, CA

#4713 May 8, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah! So now we see your true colors. How does it feel being a perpetual LOSER?
Feels great thank you very much ...

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#4714 May 8, 2013
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>It was already clear what the 2nd Amendment people thought son.
This is why they can't see the whole picture but selected pieces as needed only.
REALLY? Care to explain THIS then, traitor?

"Let me ask attention to an illustration nearer home. The only case in which there has ever existed a real necessity for the interposition of military force to preserve the peace in Massachusetts.(except in the days of 1775, when the PEOPLE TOOK ARMS, to put down the military,) was the "Shay's Rebellion;" and then, gentlemen who glorify the militia must remember the PEOPLE ARMED THEMSELVES to suppress an insurrection headed by a militia officer, with militia men for the mass of his followers.

"Now, Mr. Chairman, gentlemen talk about the necessity of this volunteer militia, in order to prevent mobs in Massachusetts. Let me ask, Sir, how many there are of them? I understand that the whole number is not more than four or five thousand: or at the farthest, we may say seven thousand. Now, can any gentleman seriously suppose that the peace of this whole Commonwealth is preserved by this insignificant body men? Sir, it is the law-abiding, peace-loving, order-preserving citizens of Massachusetts, whom we are indebted for the feeling of which we enjoy."

- Francis W. Bird, June 20, 1853,[OFFICIAL REPORT OF THE DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS IN THE STATE CONVENTION, ASSEMBLED MAY 4TH, 1853, TO REVISE AND AMEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE Commonwealth of Massachusetts VOLUME SECOND. BOSTON: WHITE
& POTTER, PRINTERS TO THE CONVENTION, 1853.]

Good-bye, traitor-troll.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#4715 May 8, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
FACTS don't lie, treasonous scum:
No, we leave that to you, you freeloading welfare fraud.
Wipe your chin, GayDavy, you are drawing flies.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#4716 May 8, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
<quoted text>
REALLY? Care to explain THIS then, traitor?
Poor GayDavy: even his spam is 170 years old.

FLAGGED!

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#4717 May 8, 2013
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>It was already clear what the 2nd Amendment people thought son.
GayDavy doesn't even know the words to the Second Amendment.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#4718 May 8, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Committed with STOLEN FIREARMS in the hands of GANG-BANGERS.
Every time you open your mouth, GayDavy, a sticky lie tumbles out.

++

Three elderly people were killed during a possible murder-suicide Wednesday in Hacienda Heights.
By Joseph Serna

May 1, 2013, 11:30 a.m.

Three people were killed Wednesday in a shooting in Hacienda Heights, Los Angeles County fire officials said.

Residents in the 15900 block of Ladysmith Street -- a cul-de-sac south of the 60 Freeway near Hacienda Boulevard -- reported hearing gunshots about 9:10 a.m.

When medics arrived, two people were dead and a third person was suffering from a gunshot wound. That person was airlifted to a hospital but died en route.

Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department homicide detectives are investigating.

The last homicide in Hacienda Heights was Feb. 24, according to a Times database.

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#4719 May 8, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
GayDavy doesn't even know the words to the Second Amendment.
Oooooops! There goes the LIE-beral 'militia' theory!

"Let me ask attention to an illustration nearer home. The only case in which there has ever existed a real necessity for the interposition of military force to preserve the peace in Massachusetts.(except in the days of 1775, when the PEOPLE TOOK ARMS, to put down the military,) was the "Shay's Rebellion;" and then, gentlemen who glorify the militia must remember the PEOPLE ARMED THEMSELVES to suppress an insurrection headed by a militia officer, with militia men for the mass of his followers.

"Now, Mr. Chairman, gentlemen talk about the necessity of this volunteer militia, in order to prevent mobs in Massachusetts. Let me ask, Sir, how many there are of them? I understand that the whole number is not more than four or five thousand: or at the farthest, we may say seven thousand. Now, can any gentleman seriously suppose that the peace of this whole Commonwealth is preserved by this insignificant body men? Sir, it is the law-abiding, peace-loving, order-preserving citizens of Massachusetts, whom we are indebted for the feeling of which we enjoy."

- Francis W. Bird, June 20, 1853,[OFFICIAL REPORT OF THE DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS IN THE STATE CONVENTION, ASSEMBLED MAY 4TH, 1853, TO REVISE AND AMEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE Commonwealth of Massachusetts VOLUME SECOND. BOSTON: WHITE
& POTTER, PRINTERS TO THE CONVENTION, 1853.]

Take a hike, vile traitor-troll. Your 'militia' argument is SHOT DOWN IN FLAMES.

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#4720 May 8, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
Every time you open your mouth, GayDavy, a sticky lie tumbles out.
++
Three elderly people were killed during a possible murder-suicide Wednesday in Hacienda Heights.
By Joseph Serna
May 1, 2013, 11:30 a.m.
Three people were killed Wednesday in a shooting in Hacienda Heights, Los Angeles County fire officials said.
Residents in the 15900 block of Ladysmith Street -- a cul-de-sac south of the 60 Freeway near Hacienda Boulevard -- reported hearing gunshots about 9:10 a.m.
When medics arrived, two people were dead and a third person was suffering from a gunshot wound. That person was airlifted to a hospital but died en route.
Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department homicide detectives are investigating.
The last homicide in Hacienda Heights was Feb. 24, according to a Times database.
How typical of the LIE-beral mind. Can't win by FACTS. So you perversely use an unfortunate event to advance your treasonous agenda. PATHETIC.
LBer

Long Beach, CA

#4721 May 8, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
<quoted text>
How typical of the LIE-beral mind. Can't win by FACTS. So you perversely use an unfortunate event to advance your treasonous agenda. PATHETIC.
Come on - we're a country of 350 million plus people, and if a crazy shooting happened today, you know every liberal in town would start screaming that there is mass hysteria and shootings in the street. Despite the fact that you can go your whole life and odds are never see an act of gun violence.

There will always be nutjobs and exceptions.

If they really wanted to keep people safe they would clamor for banning alcohol and cars, but that's not gonna happen. They drink alcohol and own cars.

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#4722 May 8, 2013
LBer wrote:
<quoted text>
Come on - we're a country of 350 million plus people, and if a crazy shooting happened today, you know every liberal in town would start screaming that there is mass hysteria and shootings in the street. Despite the fact that you can go your whole life and odds are never see an act of gun violence.
There will always be nutjobs and exceptions.
If they really wanted to keep people safe they would clamor for banning alcohol and cars, but that's not gonna happen. They drink alcohol and own cars.
The LIE-berals won't be doing ANYTHING after THIS:

"The section which declares that no law shall restrict the right of the people to bear arms, whether in defense of themselves or of the State, was read a second time.
"Mr. RARIDEN said he would like to know from the gentlemen who reported this section whether it was the intention to permit or prohibit the wearing of concealed weapons. He preferred the language of the old Constitution. He would move to strike out the section and insert the corresponding section of the old Constitution.
"Mr. OWEN said he would suggest to the gentleman from Wayne that if he wished to prohibit the carrying of weapons it would be necessary to change the language of the old Constitution. For if it were declared by Constitutional provision that the people should have the right to bear arms, no law of the Legislature could take away that right."

- Dec. 31, 1850, Afternoon Session.[REPORT OF THE DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS OF THE CONVENTION FOR THE REVISION OF THE CONSTITUTION THE STATE OF INDIANA. 1850. VOLUME II. H. FOWLER, OFFICIAL REPORTER TO THE CONVENTION. A.H. BROWN, PRINTER TO THE CONVENTION. INDIANAPOLIS, IND 1850.

That is prima-facie EVIDENCE that CANNOT be refuted. Our governments have ZERO authority over our right to keep and bear arms. ALL 'gun control laws' are UNCONSTITUTIONAL, and therefore; NULL and VOID.

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