States with strict gun laws found to have fewer shooting deaths

Mar 7, 2013 Full story: Reuters 5,070

States that have more laws restricting gun ownership have lower rates of death from shootings, both suicides and homicides, a study by researchers at Boston Children's Hospital and Harvard University found.

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“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#4683 May 7, 2013
spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
Gunloonery
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
"The prohibition is general. No clause in the Constitution could by ANY rule of construction be conceived to give to Congress a power to disarm the people. Such a flagitious attempt could only be made under some general pretense by a state legislature. But if in any blind pursuit of inordinate power, either should attempt it, this amendment may be appealed to as a restraint on both."--William Rawle, A View of the Constitution, 125-6 (2nd ed. 1829).(Appointed by President George Washington as U.S. District Attorney for Pennsylvania in 1791).
spocko

Oakland, CA

#4684 May 7, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
<quoted text>
"The prohibition is general. No clause in the Constitution could by ANY rule of construction be conceived to give to Congress a power to disarm the people. Such a flagitious attempt could only be made under some general pretense by a state legislature. But if in any blind pursuit of inordinate power, either should attempt it, this amendment may be appealed to as a restraint on both."--William Rawle, A View of the Constitution, 125-6 (2nd ed. 1829).(Appointed by President George Washington as U.S. District Attorney for Pennsylvania in 1791).
If gun-control is so useless, according to you friggen gunloons, why then is it that not a single crime is ever committed with a machine gun – ever since they were outlawed in 1934 and 1986 respectively?

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#4685 May 7, 2013
spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
If gun-control is so useless, according to you friggen gunloons, why then is it that not a single crime is ever committed with a machine gun – ever since they were outlawed in 1934 and 1986 respectively?
Most incorrect indeed. For criminals in governments have slaughtered MILLIONS with machine guns.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#4686 May 7, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah right, that's why your 'master' has continued down the same path, RIGHT?
Why are you and your fellow minions working so hard to subvert our Constitution? How much are you getting paid for your treasonous efforts?
Why did your 'master' allow this?-
Feds Requested Targets With Children and Pregnant Women
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/it...
1.6 Billion Rounds Of Ammo For Homeland Security?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ralphbenko/2013/0...
Explain, drone.
Feds Requested Targets With Children and Pregnant Women"

The company involved, Minnesota-based Law Enforcement Training, boasts about its ties to the U.S. Justice Department, Homeland Security, and thousands of local, state, and federal law-enforcement agencies nationwide. According to official data compiled on a federal website, the firm has landed close to $6 million worth of federal contracts alone, with almost $2 million coming from the Department of Homeland Security. Even more alarming, perhaps, the widely ridiculed and loathed Transportation Security Administration (TSA) has awarded the company almost $1 million in contracts. The precise purpose remains unclear.

Who created,signed and passed the "Patriot" Act?

"1.6 Billion Rounds Of Ammo For Homeland Security"?

Who created Homeland Security?

And who wholeheartedly defended it?

Republican policies come back to bite them in the ass, then blame democrats.

"Why are you and your fellow minions working so hard to subvert our Constitution"?

We aren't.

See: "Patriot Act".

Poor teabagger.
spocko

Oakland, CA

#4687 May 7, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Most incorrect indeed. For criminals in governments have slaughtered MILLIONS with machine guns.
You're on the wrong forum, there is one especially for the mentally challenged room-temp IQ is required thou ... good luck to you!

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#4688 May 7, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
<quoted text>Feds Requested Targets With Children and Pregnant Women"

See: "Patriot Act".
Poor [me, I don't think before I write.]
President Obama Signed the National Defense Authorization Act - Now What?

President Obama signs the National Defense Authorization Act after months of debate.

One thing I love about writing on technology is that it’s a subject always filled with hope and optimism. For every frightening use of technology by oppressive governments there’s a corresponding story about the use of that same technology to overcome oppression.

For every story of police abuse I’ve read, there’s another story about corruption and violence exposed by something as simple as a camera phone.

But can technology help us overcome truly pernicious legislation like the National Defense Authorization Act recently signed by the president?

The National Defense Authorization Act greatly expands the power and scope of the federal government to fight the War on Terror, including codifying into law the indefinite detention of terrorism suspects without trial. Under the new law the US military has the power to carry out domestic anti-terrorism operations on US soil.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/01/...

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#4689 May 7, 2013
spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
You're on the wrong forum, there is one especially for the mentally challenged room-temp IQ is required thou ... good luck to you!
I'm not the brainless wonder that can't comprehend these 14 little words, found in THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND:

"The Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms shall NOT be infringed".

You and your fellow treasonous ilk are just going to have to learn to DEAL WITH IT.

“Sharia, NOT!”

Since: Jul 10

Chesapeake, VA

#4690 May 8, 2013
spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
If gun-control is so useless, according to you friggen gunloons, why then is it that not a single crime is ever committed with a machine gun – ever since they were outlawed in 1934 and 1986 respectively?
Because law abiding citizens that own them don't commit crimes with them. And, they are locked up where thieves can't get them. Why?

“Sharia, NOT!”

Since: Jul 10

Chesapeake, VA

#4691 May 8, 2013
Gun crime has plunged, but Americans think it's up, says study
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/...

Looks like the sky is falling for liberals.
spocko

Oakland, CA

#4692 May 8, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not the brainless wonder that can't comprehend these 14 little words, found in THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND:
"The Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms shall NOT be infringed".
You and your fellow treasonous ilk are just going to have to learn to DEAL WITH IT.
Ok time is up, back in the cage ... loony toons
spocko

Oakland, CA

#4693 May 8, 2013
Socialism is for Sissies wrote:
Gun crime has plunged, but Americans think it's up, says study
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/...
Looks like the sky is falling for liberals.
Gun violence dropped dramatically nationwide over the past two decades, but the fact remains, over three-quarters of all homicides are still committed with a firearm. And most importantly, it does not offer any reasons for the decrease in gun violence.
Criminologists at the FBI have said that explanations for the decline remain elusive and credit it to modern, highly effective police tactics as well as pointing to gang violence that also declined at the same rate.
from the report

Santa Fe, NM

#4694 May 8, 2013
Note: NOBODY thinks it is because of gun proliferation

Researchers continue to debate the key factors behind changing crime rates, which is part of a larger discussion about the predictors of crime.3 There is consensus that demographics played some role: The outsized post-World War II baby boom, which produced a large number of people in the high-crime ages of 15 to 20 in the 1960s and 1970s, helped drive crime up in those years.

A review by the National Academy of Sciences of factors driving recent crime trends (Blumstein and Rosenfeld, 2008) cited a decline in rates in the early 1980s as the young boomers got older, then a flare-up by mid-decade in conjunction with a rising street market for crack cocaine, especially in big cities. It noted recruitment of a younger cohort of drug seller with greater willingness to use guns. By the early 1990s, crack markets withered in part because of lessened demand, and the vibrant national economy made it easier for even low-skilled young people to find jobs rather than get involved in crime.

At the same time, a rising number of people ages 30 and older were incarcerated, due in part to stricter laws, which helped restrain violence among this age group. It is less clear, researchers say, that innovative policing strategies and police crackdowns on use of guns by younger adults played a significant role in reducing crime.

Some researchers have proposed additional explanations as to why crime levels plunged so suddenly, including increased access to abortion and lessened exposure to lead. According to one hypothesis, legalization of abortion after the 1973 Supreme Court Roe v. Wade decision resulted in fewer unwanted births, and unwanted children have an increased risk of growing up to become criminals. Another theory links reduced crime to 1970s-era reductions in lead in gasoline; children’s exposure to lead causes brain damage that could be associated with violent behavior. The National Academy of Sciences review said it was unlikely that either played a major role, but researchers continue to explore both factors.

The plateau in national violent crime rates has raised interest in the topic of how local differences might influence crime levels and trends. Crime reductions took place across the country in the 1990s, but since 2000, patterns have varied more by metropolitan area or city.4

One focus of interest is that gun ownership varies widely by region and locality. The National Academy of Sciences review of possible influences on crime trends said there is good evidence of a link between firearm ownership and firearm homicide at the local level; “the causal direction of this relationship remains in dispute, however, with some researchers maintaining that firearm violence elevates rates of gun ownership, but not the reverse.”

There is substantial variation within and across regions and localities in a number of other realms, which complicates any attempt to find a single cause for national trends. Among the variations of interest to researchers are policing techniques, punishment policies, culture, economics and residential segregation.

Internationally, a decline in crime, especially property crime, has been documented in many countries since the mid-1990s. According to the authors of a 30-country study on criminal victimization (Van Dijk et al., 2007), there is no general agreement on all the reasons for this decline. They say there is a general consensus that demographic change—specifically, the shrinking proportion of adolescents across Europe—is a common factor causing decreases across Western countries. They also cite wider use of security measures in homes and businesses as a factor in reducing property crime.

But other potential explanations—such as better policing or increased imprisonment—do not apply in Europe, where policies vary widely, the report noted.

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/05/07/gun...
from the report

Santa Fe, NM

#4695 May 8, 2013

Researchers continue to debate the key factors behind changing crime rates, which is part of a larger discussion about the predictors of crime.3 There is consensus that demographics played some role: The outsized post-World War II baby boom, which produced a large number of people in the high-crime ages of 15 to 20 in the 1960s and 1970s, helped drive crime up in those years.

A review by the National Academy of Sciences of factors driving recent crime trends (Blumstein and Rosenfeld, 2008) cited a decline in rates in the early 1980s as the young boomers got older, then a flare-up by mid-decade in conjunction with a rising street market for crack cocaine, especially in big cities. It noted recruitment of a younger cohort of drug seller with greater willingness to use guns. By the early 1990s, crack markets withered in part because of lessened demand, and the vibrant national economy made it easier for even low-skilled young people to find jobs rather than get involved in crime.

At the same time, a rising number of people ages 30 and older were incarcerated, due in part to stricter laws, which helped restrain violence among this age group. It is less clear, researchers say, that innovative policing strategies and police crackdowns on use of guns by younger adults played a significant role in reducing crime.

Some researchers have proposed additional explanations as to why crime levels plunged so suddenly, including increased access to abortion and lessened exposure to lead. According to one hypothesis, legalization of abortion after the 1973 Supreme Court Roe v. Wade decision resulted in fewer unwanted births, and unwanted children have an increased risk of growing up to become criminals. Another theory links reduced crime to 1970s-era reductions in lead in gasoline; children’s exposure to lead causes brain damage that could be associated with violent behavior. The National Academy of Sciences review said it was unlikely that either played a major role, but researchers continue to explore both factors.

The plateau in national violent crime rates has raised interest in the topic of how local differences might influence crime levels and trends. Crime reductions took place across the country in the 1990s, but since 2000, patterns have varied more by metropolitan area or city.4

One focus of interest is that gun ownership varies widely by region and locality. The National Academy of Sciences review of possible influences on crime trends said there is good evidence of a link between firearm ownership and firearm homicide at the local level; “the causal direction of this relationship remains in dispute, however, with some researchers maintaining that firearm violence elevates rates of gun ownership, but not the reverse.”

There is substantial variation within and across regions and localities in a number of other realms, which complicates any attempt to find a single cause for national trends. Among the variations of interest to researchers are policing techniques, punishment policies, culture, economics and residential segregation.

Internationally, a decline in crime, especially property crime, has been documented in many countries since the mid-1990s. According to the authors of a 30-country study on criminal victimization (Van Dijk et al., 2007), there is no general agreement on all the reasons for this decline. They say there is a general consensus that demographic change—specifically, the shrinking proportion of adolescents across Europe—is a common factor causing decreases across Western countries. They also cite wider use of security measures in homes and businesses as a factor in reducing property crime.

But other potential explanations—such as better policing or increased imprisonment—do not apply in Europe, where policies vary widely, the report noted

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#4696 May 8, 2013
spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok time is up, back in the cage ... loony toons
Read it and weep, traitor:

Released: May 7, 2013
Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware
Pace of Decline Slows in Past Decade
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/05/07/gun...

And this while firearm ownership has SOARED:

More than 100 million such checks have been made in the last decade
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics

PROVING beyond ALL shadow of doubt, that MORE GUNS = LESS CRIME.

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#4697 May 8, 2013
spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
Gun violence dropped dramatically nationwide over the past two decades, but the fact remains, over three-quarters of all homicides are still committed with a firearm. And most importantly, it does not offer any reasons for the decrease in gun violence.
Criminologists at the FBI have said that explanations for the decline remain elusive and credit it to modern, highly effective police tactics as well as pointing to gang violence that also declined at the same rate.
By STOLEN guns in the hands of your heroes; GANG-BANGERS.

Take a hike, traitor. And you had better buy a huge stock of Depends.

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#4698 May 8, 2013
from the report wrote:
Note: NOBODY thinks it is because of gun proliferation
United States Crime Rates 1960 - 2011 in relation to Gun Control Laws/NICS Background checks

(Important note: The number of background checks does not equate to the number of firearms sold. As multiple guns; both Long Guns, and Hand Guns, can be purchased during a NICS background check).

The statistics from the chart were gathered from the Disaster Center referenced above. To which were added the last two columns on the right. Which contain information concerning U.S. gun law enactment periods. As well as crime rate variances, and finally; N.I.C.S.,(National Instant Criminal Background Check), numbers,

As it is plain to see, crime rates started a dramatic rise after the 1968 Gun Control Act. During the years 1981-84 crime rates either leveled out or dropped. From 1985-91 the overall crime rate again rose sharply. During the year 1992 the crime rates again leveled. While in 1993 most crime rates had fallen. Which fails to explain the justification for the Unconstitutional “Brady Bill”.

The 'Gun Control' laws that have been unconstitutionally passed have also had an effect on Firearm sales in the United States. According to National Shooting Sports Foundation,(NSSF), and FBI NICS records. Firearms sales have increased by 54.1% between 2002-2011*. Thus making the claim by John Lott in his book; “More Guns, Less Crime”, a statistical FACT.

'Gun Control laws' also seem to be providing an impetus for increased firearms sales. Which is hardly what the 'gun control' crowd desired, I'm sure. That is of course, unless they are stock holders in firearms related businesses....
http://gunshowonthenet.blogspot.com/2013/04/u...

Take a hike, loser.

“Sharia, NOT!”

Since: Jul 10

Chesapeake, VA

#4699 May 8, 2013
spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
Gun violence dropped dramatically nationwide over the past two decades, but the fact remains, over three-quarters of all homicides are still committed with a firearm. And most importantly, it does not offer any reasons for the decrease in gun violence.
Criminologists at the FBI have said that explanations for the decline remain elusive and credit it to modern, highly effective police tactics as well as pointing to gang violence that also declined at the same rate.
Where's the outcry for the deaths that outnumber gun violence when it comes to alcohol related deaths????
Time for alcohol control and perhaps banning alcohol all together.
I did read it

Santa Fe, NM

#4700 May 8, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
<quoted text>

MORE GUNS = LESS CRIME.
and posted it. It said nothing of that sort.

You lied again.

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#4701 May 8, 2013
Socialism is for Sissies wrote:
<quoted text>Where's the outcry for the deaths that outnumber gun violence when it comes to alcohol related deaths????
Time for alcohol control and perhaps banning alcohol all together.
They tried that before, and it BACKFIRED BIG TIME. It's what brought organized crime out of the cracks. It's what made the Kennedy clan FILTHY RICH. It's what brought on the first tyrannical 'federal gun control law' in 1934.

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#4702 May 8, 2013
I did read it wrote:
<quoted text>
and posted it. It said nothing of that sort.
You lied again.
Released: May 7, 2013
Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware
Pace of Decline Slows in Past Decade
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/05/07/gun...

And this while firearm ownership has SOARED:

More than 100 million such checks have been made in the last decade
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics

PROVING beyond ALL shadow of doubt, that MORE GUNS = LESS CRIME.

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