States with strict gun laws found to ...

States with strict gun laws found to have fewer shooting deaths

There are 5075 comments on the Reuters story from Mar 7, 2013, titled States with strict gun laws found to have fewer shooting deaths. In it, Reuters reports that:

States that have more laws restricting gun ownership have lower rates of death from shootings, both suicides and homicides, a study by researchers at Boston Children's Hospital and Harvard University found.

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#4244 Apr 25, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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Too funny! I point out that all statistics are not created equal. Your interpretation is that I stated all statistics address the same subject matter.
I can recommend a good reading comprehension tutor for you. Lmao!
You say you've got no statistics or proof of what you way?

Then you lose. Sit down and shut up.

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#4245 Apr 25, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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He first has to understand what I posted before he can research to prove me wrong.
You are correct in stating he is too lazy to put in the work.
I appreciate your input and back up.
I don't do other posters' homework for them. You claimed you had more meaningful information than the poll I cited, you could not produce it, therefore you lost, as I've already noted.

Dismissed.

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#4246 Apr 25, 2013
Here's the exchange I had with Dr. Sniper, just FYI:

Dr-Sniper - So now all statistics are created equal? You think a poll carries as much statistical weight as say, FBI published Statistics, or published Census information?
Typical all or none liberal mentality.

Tha Professor - Show me the "FBI published statisstics or published census information" which shows that the vast majority of Americans didn't support extended background checks at the beginning of this month (April). Let's see 'em, wiseguy.

Dr – Sniper - I point out that all statistics are not created equal. Your interpretation is that I stated all statistics address the same subject matter.

As you can see, Herr Dr. Sniper is lying about what I said and is still unable to show me how his "FBI published Statistics, or published Census information" on background checks for gun purchasers overrules the poll results I cited. He also created a strawman when he pretended that I'd said that "all statistics are created equal."

I must assume then that der Herr Doktor doesn't know what he's talking about, or is lying.

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#4247 Apr 25, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>You've got your cliche backwards.
The racist roots of the democrat party's lust for 'gun control'

"Before the election Governor Scott had organized and armed the colored militia, alleging that it was necessary to protect them against violence. This action was very objectionable to the democratic party...."

"Immediately after this election, outrages commenced against the colored people by the Ku-Klux, and were committed in great numbers, through the winter and spring, in the counties of Spartanburgh, Union, York, Newberry, Chester, and Fairfield...."

"...He speaks of murders committed in York County as communicated to him by his chief; of a raid upon which he went to arrest and murder the county treasurer of York, who escaped from them ; gives the names of chiefs and members in the town of York; describes their disguise; states that it was part of their business to disarm negroes, and that their object was political—" to carry the negro for the democratic party," (pp.1303-1370.)

"...The, organization of what were called "democratic clubs"—secret societies, designed to seize the Government by violence in the event of the assurance of the election of Seymour and Blair--which clubs became afterwards the Ku-Klux of infamous notoriety for blood and cruelty..."
http://gunshowonthenet.blogspot.com/2013/04/t...

The demonrat party has NEVER changed.

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#4248 Apr 25, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
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Relevance to ANYTHING?
"It was, he said, a chimerical idea to suppose that a country like this could ever be enslaved. How is an army for that purpose to be obtained from the freemen of the United States? They certainly, said he, will know to what object it is to be applied. Is it possible, he asked, that an army could be raised for the purpose of enslaving themselves and their brethren? or, if raised, whether they could subdue a nation of freemen, who know how to prize liberty, and who have arms in their hands?"--The Hon. Mr.[Theodore] Sedgwick, Thursday January 24, 1788 DEBATES IN THE CONVENTION OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF MASSACHUSETTS, ON THE ADOPTION OF THE FEDERAL CONSTITUTION.[Elliots Debates Vol. 2](Theodore Sedgwick, May 9, 1746 – January 24, 1813) was an American attorney, politician and jurist, who served in elected state government and as a Delegate to the Continental Congress, a US Representative, and a United States Senator from Massachusetts. He served as the fifth Speaker of the United States House of Representatives. He was appointed to the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court in 1802 and served there the rest of his life).

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#4249 Apr 25, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
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The racist roots of the democrat party's lust for 'gun control'
"Before the election Governor Scott had organized and armed the colored militia, alleging that it was necessary to protect them against violence. This action was very objectionable to the democratic party...."
"Immediately after this election, outrages commenced against the colored people by the Ku-Klux, and were committed in great numbers, through the winter and spring, in the counties of Spartanburgh, Union, York, Newberry, Chester, and Fairfield...."
"...He speaks of murders committed in York County as communicated to him by his chief; of a raid upon which he went to arrest and murder the county treasurer of York, who escaped from them ; gives the names of chiefs and members in the town of York; describes their disguise; states that it was part of their business to disarm negroes, and that their object was political—" to carry the negro for the democratic party," (pp.1303-1370.)
"...The, organization of what were called "democratic clubs"—secret societies, designed to seize the Government by violence in the event of the assurance of the election of Seymour and Blair--which clubs became afterwards the Ku-Klux of infamous notoriety for blood and cruelty..."
http://gunshowonthenet.blogspot.com/2013/04/t...
The demonrat party has NEVER changed.
People like you keep repeating the past transgressions of the Democratic Party ad nauseum. Of course you are unwilling to acknowledge that the racists of old and their like-minded swine fled to the Republican party, where they now reside and fester.

Not only do you relish revisiting the past, you distort the present. Your last sentence is a damned and outright lie.

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#4250 Apr 25, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
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The racist roots of the democrat party's lust for 'gun control'
"Before the election Governor Scott had organized and armed the colored militia...EDITED...
Several problems with your ancient history and race-baiting here, Clem.

1. The Dems were racists and segregationists long ago. NO Dem has been either of the above since the early '70s.

2. Many have called for gun regulation or control in this country, and for a long time, the NRA were one of the most outspoken organizations in favor.

3. Republican swine like you don't give a damn about "racism," especially if you can dishonestly use it against Dems. Many of you ARE racists, as your attacks on Obama make quite clear.

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#4251 Apr 25, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
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"It was, he said, a chimerical idea to suppose that a country like this ...EDITED...in 1802 and served there the rest of his life).
No relevance, apparently. Dismissed.

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#4252 Apr 25, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
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Several problems w
United States Circuit Court,

DISTRICT OF MISSOURI,

SPECIAL JULY TERM, 1861.

PRESENT:

HON. JOHN CATRON,
An Associate Justice of Supreme Court of United States.

HON. ROB'T W. WELLS,
District Judge of United States for Western District of Missouri.

HON. SAMUEL TREAT,
District Judge of United States for Eastern District of Missouri.

CHARGE TO THE GRAND JURY
BY THE COURT,
JULY 10, 1861.

ST. LOUIS:

PRINTED AT THE DEMOCRAT BOOK AND JOB OFFICE

1861.

"TO THE GRAND JURY...."

"...A brief reference to some of the offences of which you have cognizance, and a succinct statement of the law concerning them, may aid your investigations, and serve for your guidance:

"The Constitution and laws of the United States "are the supreme law of the land," anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary, notwithstanding." Their supremacy is thus declared in express terms: "Whatever conflicts therewith has no operative or obligatory force. Allegiance to the United States, and loyalty to the United States Constitution and laws, are the paramount duty of every citizen. Within their legitimate sphere, they command the obedience of all, and no State Coustitution or statute can absolve any one therefrom...."

"...As it is both the right and duty of every citizen to become fully informed upon all governmental affairs, so as to discharge his many political obligations intelligently at the ballot-box, and in other legitimate ways; and the freedom of the press and of speech are guaranteed to him for that as well as other essential purposes; and as the right of the people peaceably to assemble and petition for the redress of grievances, and to keep and bear arms, cannot be lawfully abridged or infringed..."
http://gunshowonthenet.blogspot.com/2013/04/p...

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#4253 Apr 25, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
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No relevance, apparently. Dismissed.
A Short History of Democrats, Republicans, and Racism

The following are a few basic historical facts that every American should know.

Fact: The Republican Party was founded primarily to oppose slavery, and Republicans eventually abolished slavery. The Democratic Party fought them and tried to maintain and expand slavery.

Why is this indisputable fact so rarely mentioned? PBS documentaries about slavery and the Civil War barely mention it, for example. One can certainly argue that the parties have changed dramatically in 150 years, but that does not change the historical fact that it was the Democrats who supported slavery and the Republicans who opposed it. And that indisputable fact should not be airbrushed out for fear that it will tarnish the modern Democratic Party.

Had the positions of the parties been the opposite, and the Democrats had fought the Republicans to end slavery, the historical party roles would no doubt be repeated incessantly in these documentaries. Funny how that works.

Fact: During the Civil War era, the "Radical Republicans" were given that name because they wanted to not only end slavery but also to endow the freed slaves with full citizenship, equality, and rights.

Yes, that was indeed a radical idea at the time!

Fact: Lincoln's Vice President, Andrew Johnson, was a strongly pro-Union (but also pro-slavery) Democrat who had been chosen as a compromise running mate to attract Democrats. After Lincoln was assassinated, Johnson thwarted Republican efforts in Congress to recognize the civil rights of the freed slaves, and Southern Democrats continued to thwart any such efforts for nearly a century.

Fact: The Ku Klux Klan was originally and primarily an arm of the Southern Democratic Party, and its mission was to terrorize freed slaves and Republicans who sympathized with them.

Why is this fact conveniently omitted in so many popular histories and depictions of the KKK, including PBS documentaries? Had the KKK been founded by Republicans, that fact would no doubt be repeated constantly on those shows.

Fact: In the 1950s, President Eisenhower, a Republican, integrated the US military and promoted civil rights for minorities. Eisenhower pushed through the Civil Rights Act of 1957. One of Eisenhower's primary political opponents on civil rights prior to 1957 was none other than Lyndon Johnson, then the Democratic Senate Majority Leader. LBJ had voted the straight segregationist line until he changed his position and supported the 1957 Act.

Fact: The historic Civil Rights Act of 1964 was supported by a higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats in both houses of Congress. In the House, 80 percent of the Republicans and 63 percent of the Democrats voted in favor. In the Senate, 82 percent of the Republicans and 69 percent of the Democrats voted for it.

Fact: Contrary to popular misconception, the parties never "switched" on racism.

Following the epic civil rights struggles of the 1960s, the South began a major demographic shift from Democratic to Republican
http://russp.us/racism.htm

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#4254 Apr 25, 2013
Robert Newell wrote:
As far as stats go, Texas and Florida are below average in shooting deaths
You're a liar. Florida is 18th; Texas is 23rd.
http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx...

http://www.motherjones.com/files/ownership-de...

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#4255 Apr 25, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
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A Short History of Democrats, Republicans, and Racism
~stomp stomp stomp~

You're a racist, GayDavy.

You don't have to prove it.

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#4256 Apr 25, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
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United States Circuit Court,
DISTRICT OF MISSOURI,
SPECIAL JULY TERM, 1861.
dead one hundred years, GayDavy.

Do stop spamming with this [email protected]

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#4257 Apr 25, 2013
LOL...I see GunSlow1 still thinks that if he posts enough spam about the history of guns and America he'll somehow convert everyone to the NRA position and get them to go out and buy themselves a shiny new gun.

Sorry, putz, not happening. Your irrelevancies bring about nothing but laughter at your expense...:)

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#4258 Apr 25, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
~stomp stomp stomp~
You're a racist, GayDavy.
You don't have to prove it.
A Short History of Democrats, Republicans, and Racism

The following are a few basic historical facts that every American should know.

Fact: The Republican Party was founded primarily to oppose slavery, and Republicans eventually abolished slavery. The Democratic Party fought them and tried to maintain and expand slavery.

Why is this indisputable fact so rarely mentioned? PBS documentaries about slavery and the Civil War barely mention it, for example. One can certainly argue that the parties have changed dramatically in 150 years, but that does not change the historical fact that it was the Democrats who supported slavery and the Republicans who opposed it. And that indisputable fact should not be airbrushed out for fear that it will tarnish the modern Democratic Party.

Had the positions of the parties been the opposite, and the Democrats had fought the Republicans to end slavery, the historical party roles would no doubt be repeated incessantly in these documentaries. Funny how that works.

Fact: During the Civil War era, the "Radical Republicans" were given that name because they wanted to not only end slavery but also to endow the freed slaves with full citizenship, equality, and rights.

Yes, that was indeed a radical idea at the time!

Fact: Lincoln's Vice President, Andrew Johnson, was a strongly pro-Union (but also pro-slavery) Democrat who had been chosen as a compromise running mate to attract Democrats. After Lincoln was assassinated, Johnson thwarted Republican efforts in Congress to recognize the civil rights of the freed slaves, and Southern Democrats continued to thwart any such efforts for nearly a century.

Fact: The Ku Klux Klan was originally and primarily an arm of the Southern Democratic Party, and its mission was to terrorize freed slaves and Republicans who sympathized with them.

Why is this fact conveniently omitted in so many popular histories and depictions of the KKK, including PBS documentaries? Had the KKK been founded by Republicans, that fact would no doubt be repeated constantly on those shows.

Fact: In the 1950s, President Eisenhower, a Republican, integrated the US military and promoted civil rights for minorities. Eisenhower pushed through the Civil Rights Act of 1957. One of Eisenhower's primary political opponents on civil rights prior to 1957 was none other than Lyndon Johnson, then the Democratic Senate Majority Leader. LBJ had voted the straight segregationist line until he changed his position and supported the 1957 Act.

Fact: The historic Civil Rights Act of 1964 was supported by a higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats in both houses of Congress. In the House, 80 percent of the Republicans and 63 percent of the Democrats voted in favor. In the Senate, 82 percent of the Republicans and 69 percent of the Democrats voted for it.

Fact: Contrary to popular misconception, the parties never "switched" on racism.

Following the epic civil rights struggles of the 1960s, the South began a major demographic shift from Democratic to Republican
http://russp.us/racism.htm

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#4259 Apr 25, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
And where did you study math and statistics dipŠhit?
The nationwide average number of shooting deaths per 100,000 population is 11.5 including Washington D.C. which has some of the strictest gun control laws and is number 1 ranked at 31.2, nearly three times the rate in Texas and Florida.
Texas is 11 and Florida is 11.1 which is below the average of 11.5.
The order in which they rank is not the issue, My stats were about shooting deaths.

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#4260 Apr 25, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
Fact: The Republican Party was founded primarily to oppose slavery,
Not even close.

It was founded to oppose the EXPANSION of slavery into newly added states, and they did not oppose expansion because they opposed slavery, they opposed the "free" labor and were concerned blacks would replace them as cheap labor.

Even during the Civil War, Lincoln did not oppose slavery; he would not have freed the slaves if he could have kept the Union together with slavery in place: he would have.

PS: the first REpublicans were all DEMOCRATS.

PPS: It's 150 years later, and the Republicans are 94 percent white.

How come?

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#4261 Apr 25, 2013
Robert Newell wrote:
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And where did you study math and statistics dipŠhit?
The nationwide average number of shooting deaths per 100,000 population is 11.5 including Washington D.C.
Washing DC is not a state.

So you flunked out civics before you flunked out of math?

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#4262 Apr 25, 2013
Robert Newell wrote:
The order in which they rank is not the issue
There are fifty states.

Both Florida and Texas rank here compared to other states.

Apples to apples.

Oranges to oranges.

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#4263 Apr 25, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
Why is this indisputable fact so rarely mentioned?
Because the Democratic party and the Republican party of 150 years ago are not the Democratic party and Republican party today.

Or forty years ago.

Putting aside you are off topic again, GayDavy.

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