States with strict gun laws found to have fewer shooting deaths

Mar 7, 2013 Full story: Reuters 5,070

States that have more laws restricting gun ownership have lower rates of death from shootings, both suicides and homicides, a study by researchers at Boston Children's Hospital and Harvard University found.

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“Historic American President”

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#1 Mar 7, 2013
That is exactly why President Obama wants stricter gun laws… so that there will be fewer deaths… but the right loves blood and death, even when it is the blood and death of 6 and 7 year olds.

These right-wing bastards disgust me.

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Far Away

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#2 Mar 7, 2013
There's lies, damned lies and then there's statistics. The study is flawed from the word go. For example, 60% of the gun deaths are suicide and the study doesn't account for suicides by other means/methods. That means the total suicides by firearms are statistically inconsequential, leaving only 40% of firearm related deaths to be dealt with. After that, of those 40%(now the new 100%) how many of those deaths were from law-abiding gun owners using firearms in self-defense? How many of them were shootings by law enforcement in the performance of their duties? How many of them were accidental discharge? Were any of those data points weighted as were the weights prescribed to the restrictions on gun ownership?

There's so much more that's wrong, far too much to get in to in here.

By the way...

Patty is still no more than a useful idiot, as shown above.

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#3 Mar 7, 2013
Marine Corp Pat wrote:
That is exactly why President Obama wants stricter gun laws… so that there will be fewer deaths… but the right loves blood and death, even when it is the blood and death of 6 and 7 year olds.
These right-wing bastards disgust me.
540 gun related deaths in Chicago last year.

17 already this year.

Guns are illegal in Chicago and Illinois requires a F.O.I.D. to buy guns, ammo, even BB's.

Obviously, gun control doesn't work in Illinois.

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#4 Mar 7, 2013
The authors cautioned that their methods did not prove any cause and effect connection between firearms laws and deaths, and that factors including how effectively the laws were enforced could undermine their conclusions.

Therefore the hypothesis was not proven.

It is notable that in all but 1 mass murder was done in clearly posted gun free zones.

Marine Corp Pat, does your disgust extend to our Founding Fathers who wrote the Bill of Rights as rights that are natural rights?
see the light

El Paso, TX

#5 Mar 7, 2013
That's a lie. Homes with guns are found to have fewer because the criminals won't go to their homes.

Since: Dec 07

Spring, TX

#6 Mar 7, 2013
FormerParatrooper wrote:
The authors cautioned that their methods did not prove any cause and effect connection between firearms laws and deaths, and that factors including how effectively the laws were enforced could undermine their conclusions.
Therefore the hypothesis was not proven.
It is notable that in all but 1 mass murder was done in clearly posted gun free zones.
Marine Corp Pat, does your disgust extend to our Founding Fathers who wrote the Bill of Rights as rights that are natural rights?
Obamaganda for a pretend Marine who can't spell Corps! He doesn't know that history proves the left has killed more people with guns than any other political faction.
dave

Louisa, KY

#7 Mar 7, 2013
I would like to see all you people who wants gun control to put signs in you yards that says THIS HOUSE IS A GUN FREE ZONE I bet will never see that anybody with a half of a brain knows that if you take every persons guns away crime will sky rocket and the criminals will be the only ones with guns CRIMINALS DO NOT OBEY LAWS
FormerParatroope r

United States

#8 Mar 7, 2013
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
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Obamaganda for a pretend Marine who can't spell Corps! He doesn't know that history proves the left has killed more people with guns than any other political faction.
History is full of examples of how tyrants, of both the left and the right, has kept people ignorant and dependent on the elites. Anyone who was educated, gay, handicapped or otherwise considered undesirable were the first killed by regimes.

I do not believe in the current political divisions because both the left and right have degraded freedom. The Patriot Act, the GCA of 1968, laws that treat individual freedoms as privileges, are all products of both the left and right. Each uses fear to erode our rights.

Molon Labe.

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#9 Mar 7, 2013
Bama Yankee wrote:
<quoted text>540 gun related deaths in Chicago last year.

17 already this year.

Guns are illegal in Chicago and Illinois requires a F.O.I.D. to buy guns, ammo, even BB's.

Obviously, gun control doesn't work in Illinois.
Thank you.
Plus, there is no mention of what kind of study this is. What criteria must be met to come to this conclusion?

Then there's this paragraph from the article:
The authors cautioned that their methods did not prove any cause and effect connection between firearms laws and deaths, and that factors including how effectively the laws were enforced could undermine their conclusions.

Hmmmmm. In other words, we can't really say anything for sure, we just wanted to be published so our résumé looks better.

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#10 Mar 7, 2013
FormerParatrooper wrote:
The authors cautioned that their methods did not prove any cause and effect connection between firearms laws and deaths, and that factors including how effectively the laws were enforced could undermine their conclusions.

Therefore the hypothesis was not proven.

It is notable that in all but 1 mass murder was done in clearly posted gun free zones.

Marine Corp Pat, does your disgust extend to our Founding Fathers who wrote the Bill of Rights as rights that are natural rights?
Again thank you.
Patty

Tucson, AZ

#11 Mar 7, 2013
Bama Yankee wrote:
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540 gun related deaths in Chicago last year.
17 already this year.
Guns are illegal in Chicago and Illinois requires a F.O.I.D. to buy guns, ammo, even BB's.
Obviously, gun control doesn't work in Illinois.
They can come up with their own studies saying whatever they want, but reality says otherwise and so do statistics and cities like Chicago where they have some of the strictest gun laws and highest number of gun deaths.

Here's another study that says completely the opposite:
http://littlebytesnews.wordpress.com/2013/01/...

John Lott Jr. wrote a controversial book titled "More Guns, Less Crime" which liberals try to claim has been "debunked” by peer review studies, however….since its publication there have been 29 peer-reviewed national studies by criminologists and economists on the topic. Eighteen of those supported his conclusions, ten found that shall-issue laws had no effect on violent crime and only one claimed an increase; a temporary increase of one single type of crime. http://www.gunlies.com/gl/lott.htm

Related:
More stats and info on gun laws:
http://littlebytesnews.wordpress.com/2013/02/...
Heather from LI

Danbury, CT

#12 Mar 7, 2013
Patty wrote:
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They can come up with their own studies saying whatever they want, but reality says otherwise and so do statistics and cities like Chicago where they have some of the strictest gun laws and highest number of gun deaths.
Here's another study that says completely the opposite:
http://littlebytesnews.wordpress.com/2013/01/...
John Lott Jr. wrote a controversial book titled "More Guns, Less Crime" which liberals try to claim has been "debunked” by peer review studies, however….since its publication there have been 29 peer-reviewed national studies by criminologists and economists on the topic. Eighteen of those supported his conclusions, ten found that shall-issue laws had no effect on violent crime and only one claimed an increase; a temporary increase of one single type of crime. http://www.gunlies.com/gl/lott.htm
Related:
More stats and info on gun laws:
http://littlebytesnews.wordpress.com/2013/02/...

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Cat74

Elgin, IL

#13 Mar 7, 2013
They did not include Illinois since they have the strictest gun laws, and their biggest city, Chicago is a killing field. It is also Obama's chosen home town. The shooters are also his chosen people.

“Proud To Be An American”

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#14 Mar 7, 2013
"Boston Children's Hospital and Harvard University found?"
That's the self-serving results coming from a bunch of biased ignorant "Gun-Free-Zone" azzhats who are about as bright as the forum's ersatz marine whose entire life is wasted on bestowing accolades on a chickenhawk who dropped out of bill ayers' lily white behind...despicable.
Women for self Protection

Piqua, OH

#15 Mar 7, 2013
Well if this post isn't a lie i do not know what is... The reason gun death in Chicago,IL is so high is because of the lower income people point blank. Call me Racist i do not give a shit. Almost 80% of all shootings involve Drugs sales and Gang active people...

I live in Chicago, I know the street i grew up on them. You people from other states do not know shit about them, You live in all your fancy ass houses telling us how we should live and how we should do this look in the mirror.

Our young black males are dead is because the only way to make money is on the street there anit no jobs like Mr Obama promised us!

All your stuff shirts use us lower income people for your stupid laws, We i am here to tell you no matter what gun laws you past you anit going to stop anyone from getting the guns except you upper class people..

Which will lead into a fest for people like US.... So just remember i am right around the corner when they pass these laws. on Gun control...

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#16 Mar 7, 2013
Liberal poop #1001: Post some cooking-the-books study backed by some uppity sounding hospital and college and somehow the good guys are going to go lay down their firearms all because of what bad guys do? Try again you stinking obamaroids.
Bob

Middleton, WI

#17 Mar 8, 2013
dave wrote:
I would like to see all you people who wants gun control to put signs in you yards that says THIS HOUSE IS A GUN FREE ZONE I bet will never see that anybody with a half of a brain knows that if you take every persons guns away crime will sky rocket and the criminals will be the only ones with guns CRIMINALS DO NOT OBEY LAWS
My neighbor has a sign like that. In very small letters it also says "GO AHEAD... MAKE MY DAY"

Since: Nov 08

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#18 Mar 8, 2013
Marine Corp Pat wrote:
That is exactly why President Obama wants stricter gun laws… so that there will be fewer deaths… but the right loves blood and death, even when it is the blood and death of 6 and 7 year olds.
These right-wing bastards disgust me.
Tell us again why Obama and Holder thought Fast and Furious was a good idea, or selling guns in Libya that got our Ambassador killed. Wow, 208 people dead. Did you send flower cupcake. I hear Obama quit playing golf for one day while in morning.

Since: Nov 08

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#19 Mar 8, 2013
dave wrote:
I would like to see all you people who wants gun control to put signs in you yards that says THIS HOUSE IS A GUN FREE ZONE I bet will never see that anybody with a half of a brain knows that if you take every persons guns away crime will sky rocket and the criminals will be the only ones with guns CRIMINALS DO NOT OBEY LAWS
It would be much easier to just tatoo VICTIM on thier forehead. It would let us know who not to protect, and also who are likely to backstab us.
conservative crapola

Allentown, PA

#20 Mar 8, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
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Tell us again about arms for hostages & raygun diverting money to the contras. What's that? You don't remember. As penance, post that 125 times.

bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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