Nullification: How states are making it a felony to enforce federal gun laws

May 3, 2013 Full story: The Wichita Eagle 25

In mid-April, Kansas passed a law asserting that federal gun regulations do not apply to guns made and owned in Kansas.

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“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#1 May 3, 2013
An here is their ammunition:

"The right to vote, before this amendment to the constitution, was wholly granted or denied and regulated by the several states of the Union; and now the citizens of these United States have granted and guaranteed by national authority that which before they enjoyed--if enjoyed at all--at the will of the local or state governments. To make available the right to vote to all citizens of the United States without regard to race, color, or previous condition of servitude was the direct purpose of the fifteenth amendment. We cannot see therefore, how legislation which has this purpose directly in view cannot be appropriate because it was not directed against some denial or infringement by general or state legislation. The mode of the assertion of the constitutional right to vote in the fifteenth amendment is not altogether a novel feature in our constitution as has been remarked on a former occasion during the trial of this cause. "The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended unless, when in cases of rebellion or invasion, the public safety may require it." Section 9, art. 1, par. 2. This clause comprehends the constitutional grant of the writ of habeas corpus under the form of an expression of denial of its suspension except in certain cases. Article 1st of the amendment to the constitution, is in these words: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech; or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." In this article it will be observed that the right to full liberty of religious faith, as regards any attempt to control it by the general government, secured to the citizen by the constitution of the United States, is granted under a form of expression, forbidding congress to make any law "prohibiting the free exercise thereof;" and that the right to a free press and free speech are granted under a form of expression denying their abridgment. So also with the right of the people to assemble and petition the government for a redress of grievances. Article 2d of the amendment is in these words: "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." This constitutional right to keep and bear arms, is thus conferred by the declaration that it shall not be "infringed."--Judge Edward Green Bradford, UNITED STATES v. GIVEN,[17 Int. Rev. Rec. 195.] Circuit Court. D. Delaware. 1873. Civil Rights--Violation BY State Officer--Powers of Congress.

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#2 May 3, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
An here is their ammunition:
"The right to vote
Waitress: Well, there's egg and bacon; egg sausage and bacon; egg and spam; egg bacon and spam; egg bacon sausage and spam; spam bacon sausage and spam; spam egg spam spam bacon and spam; spam sausage spam spam bacon spam tomato and spam...

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#3 May 3, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Waitress: Well, there's egg and bacon; egg sausage and bacon; egg and spam; egg bacon and spam; egg bacon sausage and spam; spam bacon sausage and spam; spam egg spam spam bacon and spam; spam sausage spam spam bacon spam tomato and spam...
^^^^And THIS is what FACTS do to the LIE-baral mind!^^^^

Go drink some more kool-aid, troll.

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#4 May 3, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
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^^^^And THIS is what FACTS do
Wipe your chin, GayDavy, you are wasting valuable time coming up with a name for your new alias.

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#5 May 3, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Wipe
Case No 14,897

UNITED STATES v. CBUIKSHANK et al.
[1 Woods 308; 1 13 Am. Law Reg.(N.S) 630.]

Circuit Court. D. Louisiana. April Term, 1874.=

Civil Rights Bill--Indictment for Violation
--FOURTEENTH AND FIFTEENTH Amendments to
Constitution--Right to Vote-- Injuries to Negroes--How Cognizable.

"...The first count is for a conspiracy to interfere with the right to "peaceably assemble together with each other, and with other citizens, for a peaceable and lawful purpose." This right Is guarantied in the first amendment to the constitution, which declares that "congress shall make no law abridging the right of the people peaceably to assemble and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." Does this disaffirmance of the power of congress to prevent the assembling of the people amount to an affirmative power to punish individuals for disturbing assemblies? This would be a strange inference. That is the prerogative of the states. It belongs to the preservation of the public peace and the fundamental rights of the people. The people of the states do not ask congress to protect the right, but demand that it shall not interfere with it. Has anything since occurred to give congress legislative power over the subject matter? The 14th amendment declares that no state shall by law abridge the privileges or Immunities of citizens of the United States. Grant that this prohibition now prevents the states from Interfering with the right to assemble, as being one of such privileges and immunities, still does it give congress power to legislate over the subject? Power to enforce the amendment is all that Is given to congress. If the amendment Is not violated, it has no power over the subject.

"The second count, which is for a conspiracy to interfere with certain citizens in their right to bear arms is open to the same criticism as the first...."

[NOTE. The order arresting the in conformity with the above opinion of Mr Justice Bradley was affirmed by the supreme court where it was carried on writ of error and certificate of division. 92 U.S. 542.]
http://gunshowonthenet.blogspot.com/2013/05/a...

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#6 May 4, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
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Case No 14,897
Vikings: Spam spam spam spam...

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#7 May 5, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Vikings: Spam spam spam spam...
Had no idea your real name was Vikings.
Roice

Winter Park, FL

#8 May 6, 2013
Well, it's clear we'll never reach any agreement with the liberals on guns. You'll just have to come take the guns from us....and therein lies your problem.....Checkmate, you lose. It really doesn't matter. Google a guy named Cody R. Wilson and weep libs. You're dream of disarmament is already dead. Even if you could take the guns (which you can't) we'll just make more. Do you Obama supporters ever read the news?? Can you read.....?
So wait

Pasadena, CA

#9 May 6, 2013
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are you a criminal or insane? Otherwise what is your issue?

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#10 May 6, 2013
So wait wrote:
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are you a criminal or insane? Otherwise what is your issue?
Why would he be a criminal. or insane? For showing that there are people that THINK. And will NOT bow down to government?

Do you have ANY iea how the United States is INTENDED to operate? And government coming after our guns is NOT what was intended.

"The people cannot be all, & always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. We have had 13. states independent 11. years. There has been one rebellion. That comes to one rebellion in a century & a half for each state. What country before ever existed a century & half without a rebellion? & what country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon & pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. It is it's natural manure. Our Convention has been too much impressed by the insurrection of Massachusetts: and in the spur of the moment they are setting up a kite to keep the hen-yard in order. I hope in God this article will be rectified before the new constitution is accepted."--Thomas Jefferson, Nov. 13, 1787 letter to William S. Smith.

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#11 May 6, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
Do you have ANY iea how the United States is INTENDED to operate?.
Clearly: you know how the welfare and the food stamps operate, GayDAVy, you're parked down on Front & Grunt with your hand out and the sign:'Homless... will wurk for food'... waiting for the office to open at 9.

YOu haven't lifted a finger for this country, you parasite.

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#12 May 6, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
"The people cannot
Waitress:...spam spam spam egg and spam; spam spam spam spam spam spam baked beans spam spam spam...

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#13 May 6, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Waitress:...spam spam spam egg and spam; spam spam spam spam spam spam baked beans spam spam spam...
"Here, then, every man,--whether native or naturalized, whether free or bond--for the provision comprehended every class and colour--every man capable of shouldering a musket, was required to be trained and armed, by our present Constitution; and the proposed to it, designates the militia as only to be for defence, and in this view Blackstone himself regarded the militia. The very second amendment to the Constitution of the United States, previous to which several of the States had refused to come into the compact, he begged to recommend to the attention of his friend from Allegheny,(Mr. Forward)--"a well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Mark the admirable adaption of the language. There is said (Mr. I) an argument in it more than I could make in a year, all condensed. A regulated right of every man, to do what? To hear arms--and the Constitution says this right to bear arms "shall not be infringed." This "well regulated militia," which is "necessary to the security of a free State" is the right of every man to bear arms, and it is a right which "shall not be infringed." And when his friend from Allegheny said at first,(as he had understood him,) that the federal power absorbed all the rights of the states on this subject, he (.Mr I) confessed that he had felt himself excited almost to pugnacity. This right exceeded, was beyond the reach of the federal Constitution--it was supreme, above the supremacy of the Constitution--it was a right which the Constitution could not touch. It was nothing less than man's right to self defence, that power which could not be impaired by any power of government."

- Mr. Charles Jared Ingersoll, Oct. 24, 1837, PROCEEDINGS AND DEBATES OF THE CONVENTION OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA, TO PROPOSE AMENDMENTS TO THE CONSTITUTION, COMMENCED AT HARRISBURG MAY 2 1837 VOL. IV. Reported by JOHN AGG, Stenographer: Assisted By Messrs. Wheeler, Kingman, Draks, and McKinley. HARRISBURG: PRINTED BY PACKER, BARRETT, And PARKE. 1838.(Ingersoll served twice as a United States representative, first from 1813 to 1815 and again from 1841 to 1847. In between these terms, he worked as the United States attorney for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania from 1815 to 1829 by appointment from President James Madison, was Pennsylvania state representative in 1830, and in 1837, was a delegate to the Pennsylvania state constitutional convention. Over the course of his governmental career, Ingersoll worked with a few U. S. presidents such as James Monroe, John Tyler, and James K. Polk).

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#14 May 7, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
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"Here, then,.
Vikings: Spam spam spam spam...

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#15 May 7, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Vikings: Spam spam spam spam...
And this is what the treasonous troll has been reduced to. See what the TRUTH does to lies?

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#16 May 8, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
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And this is what the treasonous troll has been reduced to.
Poor GayDavy: reduced to posting off topic internet spam copied from someone else.

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#17 May 8, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Poor GayDavy: reduced to posting off topic internet spam copied from someone else.
Take a hike, you vile treasonous troll. You freaks have LOST. And your 'gun control' wet dreams are OVER.

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#18 May 8, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
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Take a hike, you vile treasonous troll.
Why don't you stop mooching off your mother and the state of California, you worthless coward?

Wipe your chin, dear.

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#19 May 8, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Why don't you stop mooching off your mother and the state of California, you worthless coward?
Wipe your chin, dear.
Here you go, traitor-troll:

"The section which declares that no law shall restrict the right of the people to bear arms, whether in defense of themselves or of the State, was read a second time.
"Mr. RARIDEN said he would like to know from the gentlemen who reported this section whether it was the intention to permit or prohibit the wearing of concealed weapons. He preferred the language of the old Constitution. He would move to strike out the section and insert the corresponding section of the old Constitution.
"Mr. OWEN said he would suggest to the gentleman from Wayne that if he wished to prohibit the carrying of weapons it would be necessary to change the language of the old Constitution. For if it were declared by Constitutional provision that the people should have the right to bear arms, no law of the Legislature could take away that right."

- Dec. 31, 1850, Afternoon Session.[REPORT OF THE DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS OF THE CONVENTION FOR THE REVISION OF THE CONSTITUTION THE STATE OF INDIANA. 1850. VOLUME II. H. FOWLER, OFFICIAL REPORTER TO THE CONVENTION. A.H. BROWN, PRINTER TO THE CONVENTION. INDIANAPOLIS, IND 1850.

Good-bye, vile traitor-troll
dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#21 May 17, 2013
thank you, GunShow1, for these words of the founding fathers and those later. it is very much appreciated and i will forward them to my people and friends in my area which consists mostly of Virginia, North Carolina, West Virginia, Kentucky and Ohio. A friend of mine from Pikeville, Kentucky and myself are trying to get a group started called A.C.E.s which stands for American Constitutionalist Enforcers. We dont know at the present whether or not anything will come of it but it is worth the try and anticipation. i'll keep in touch through this Kansas forum. Thanks! have a great day. Be back later!

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