Giffords asks Congress for bold gun control bill

Jan 30, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: NBC29

A retired barber accused of shooting a California urologist to death in his Newport Beach exam room is due to appear in court for the first time Wednesday.

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<quoted text> And you cannot accept true evidence about the Sandy Hook baby killings. You prefer to ignore the facts given by the First responders and the CT Highway Patrol. If you, believe some backward hicks instead of our professionals then that is definitely your problem.
I care not if you believe me on the baby killer using a Bushmaster .223.
With your denial and stance you most likely will not take my advice here, but if you might Google. CT Highway Patrol, Coroner and First Responders Crime Evidence on the Sandy Hook Mass Shooting where it absolutly states "most chidren were shot between four and six times with a Bushmaster .223 military type weapon".
So are you saying there should be no Media Coverage due to the simple fact it goes against your agenda?
With your alignment with censorship I'm beginning to believe you are afraid to hear anything derogatory when it may show revelence to a subject.
I also noticed you did not compare a bolt action rifle and a semi-automatic weapon. You may not have efficient knowledge on weapon performance, but a bolt action weapon cannot compare even close to the rapid pull of a finger on a semi-automatic weapon for "spraying" number of rounds. While the elapsed time of losing visual contact of a target while pulling bolt back, ejecting spent hull, closing chamber, resighting target, and pulling trigger >>IS<< a long elapsed time when compared to keeping eye on target and pulling trigger, it is life and death of a split second. An effiecent bolt action shooter will get one shot while the semi shooter will send three to four rounds. The bolt action rifle is more accurate when time allows {long distance sniper or sporting shots} but for close up and elapsed time element the semi is far superior, bar none. Just as a fully automatic and semi would have a difference.
The worst school tragedy in this country didn't even involve firearms, it was dynamite, and caused the deaths of 45 people, including 38 children on May 18,1927 in Bath Township, Michigan. Do you think explaining how different types of explosives could have affected this tragedy is in any way relevant? If not, then what makes the type of firearms relevant, unless it is to push an anti-gun agenda. The bottom line is this, it was a madman hell bent on destruction, and he would have used whatever means necessary, period. Using a tragedy to push a political agenda is the product of a sick mind, and has no legitimacy.
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The worst school tragedy in this country didn't even involve firearms, it was dynamite, and caused the deaths of 45 people, including 38 children on May 18,1927 in Bath Township, Michigan. Do you think explaining how different types of explosives could have affected this tragedy is in any way relevant? If not, then what makes the type of firearms relevant, unless it is to push an anti-gun agenda. The bottom line is this, it was a madman hell bent on destruction, and he would have used whatever means necessary, period. Using a tragedy to push a political agenda is the product of a sick mind, and has no legitimacy.
Spoken like a true.......well, refer to my name. Just how many of those have happened since? We're seeing mass murders almost on a daily basis now, and I've yet to see any of the perpetrators use explosives. And while one can obtain explosives or make your own (Oklahoma City/Timothy McVeigh) there just aren't back room Explosive Shows like there are with guns where a lot of all weapons are obtained illegally.
Stop watching the cartoon network (Fox News), and be glad Mr. Romney is not our president.
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If by "common sense" don't you mean follow blindly Obama and his left wing-nut libtard propaganda? The NRA is about 4 1/2 million people, get it, not one would-be dictator, not the same liberal political party that attacked the 2nd Amendment in 94'. We know what the left wing socialist in this country want, and they will not be allowed to have it. It ain't a conspiracy if it is true. The gun nuts in this country are the socialist, so called "progressives" that have an overly exaggerated fear of armed defiance from Americans that will never accept their will, or stand idly by while they attempt to destroy the Constitution of the United States. The freedom to keep and bear arms will not be infringed any further by this administration or any other in the future. The court battles are only beginning, and those in political office that continue to act in defiance of the rule of law will be paying out huge. The NRA has recently been awarded millions of dollars by the courts from big cities who placed unconstitutional restrictions on law abiding citizens limiting their ability to defend themselves from criminals. The only one who is out of touch is the liberal, but the liberal will be put in touch with reality by the results of the next election.
BAH-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
Loving my "socialist" President! Did you see the financial news on Friday? Dam it! Another day of economic recovery for the country. In fact, it's the best it's been since 2007. And to think we could have had Mitt and his buddies from Kolob and Bain Capital with their "feed the fat pig first and most" policies continuing to stick it to the 47%ers which i'm sure you are one of. Nice post Guardian. You're hilarious.
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Spoken like a true.......well, refer to my name. Just how many of those have happened since? We're seeing mass murders almost on a daily basis now, and I've yet to see any of the perpetrators use explosives. And while one can obtain explosives or make your own (Oklahoma City/Timothy McVeigh) there just aren't back room Explosive Shows like there are with guns where a lot of all weapons are obtained illegally.
Stop watching the cartoon network (Fox News), and be glad Mr. Romney is not our president.
You can't accept the truth of your own irrelevance, unless it comes from CNN, and Piers Morgan. It wasn't a gun that did anything evil, it took a moron much like yourself to put it to effect, good or evil. You are a found moron, nothing more. Your argument is without facts to support it, but please do continue to prove your ignorance in public.
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If you are looking for a moron, look no further than your nearest mirror. She had no security present, where did you hear that? Did Piers Morgen tell you that last night on CNN? You libtards really don't have a clue, now do you? Your whole left wing-nut, gun grabbing agenda is unraveling all around you, and I love it. Her assailant was a liberal registered democrat nut-job, just like you, probably sat next to you at a code pink rally.
Somebody sounds a little scared. Better go hug and stroke your killing machines. Maybe even go shoot a deer 150 times or something.
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BAH-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
Loving my "socialist" President! Did you see the financial news on Friday? Dam it! Another day of economic recovery for the country. In fact, it's the best it's been since 2007. And to think we could have had Mitt and his buddies from Kolob and Bain Capital with their "feed the fat pig first and most" policies continuing to stick it to the 47%ers which i'm sure you are one of. Nice post Guardian. You're hilarious.
The federal budget sent to Congress by America's first socialist president, Mr. Obama himself, projects the National Debt to continue to rise as far as the eye can see, let's see how long you can laugh with the budget showing the Debt hitting $16.3 trillion in 2012,$17.5 trillion in 2013 and $25.9 trillion in 2022. You are just another clueless liberal, but do continue the rhetoric.
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You can't accept the truth of your own irrelevance, unless it comes from CNN, and Piers Morgan. It wasn't a gun that did anything evil, it took a moron much like yourself to put it to effect, good or evil. You are a found moron, nothing more. Your argument is without facts to support it, but please do continue to prove your ignorance in public.
And those explosives you mentioned....they just went off by themselves? You seem to really be on edge. You're quick to attack anyone on here whether you understand the topic or not. It's loose cannons like you that give us responsible gun owners a bad name. Maybe a few less hours per day of video games would be a good start for you. Hopefully you have people around you that can recognize your overaggressive, and immature outlook on life and society.
Given all that........Piers rules.
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BAH-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
Loving my "socialist" President! Did you see the financial news on Friday? Dam it! Another day of economic recovery for the country. In fact, it's the best it's been since 2007. And to think we could have had Mitt and his buddies from Kolob and Bain Capital with their "feed the fat pig first and most" policies continuing to stick it to the 47%ers which i'm sure you are one of. Nice post Guardian. You're hilarious.
They have printed fiat currency as fast as they can to keep us from falling into a brutal depression. We are in one now. The problem is, that the medicine will be taken someday and be worse. Our inflation is evident. We export it to other nations who make our products for us and others. And they are not happy. There is something called derivatives that increases massively and these instruments of debt if paid back today are said to be at least several hundred trillion dollars and still increasing! The world GDP is what? About 45 trillion dollars! That money will never be paid back. If the worse of the worse happens, it is not far fetched to think that the "dark ages" would be like a day at the beach.
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The federal budget sent to Congress by America's first socialist president, Mr. Obama himself, projects the National Debt to continue to rise as far as the eye can see, let's see how long you can laugh with the budget showing the Debt hitting $16.3 trillion in 2012,$17.5 trillion in 2013 and $25.9 trillion in 2022. You are just another clueless liberal, but do continue the rhetoric.
This lack of judgement is the essence of the current demise of the Republican party. You just don't get it. The debt is the debt, and nothing changes that. And no one wants to see it rise regardless of your apparent racist and lack of knowledge of the term 'socialist'. After 8 destructive years of George Bush our economy was left in shambles do to his quick trigger wars, tax breaks for the pigs, lack of control with Wall St. regulation, and an imploding housing market. Our "socialist" President had to do something or it would have been a total economic collapse. I'm not sure if you have a portfolio, or even know what that means, but mine looks a whole lot better lately. A whole lot.
Now, getting back to your rising debt issue: Society and people need to be taken care of first. This includes health care for 32 million people that didn't have any. This also means that we need to fix a lot of the problems that are the real root causes of the debt in the first place. Our troops need to come home. Our ridiculous military budget needs to be controlled. Our schools are in dire need of proper funding. Regulation of Wall Street is long overdue. The insurance industry needs to be taken down a few notches. Our roads and bridges are disasters waiting to happen. Our seniors need to be secure in their golden years without the worry of a failed Social Security program. I don't know about you, but I've been paying into that for almost 40 years, so I want it there for me as well.
You just don't get it Guardian. It's about people....not money.
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And those explosives you mentioned....they just went off by themselves? You seem to really be on edge. You're quick to attack anyone on here whether you understand the topic or not. It's loose cannons like you that give us responsible gun owners a bad name. Maybe a few less hours per day of video games would be a good start for you. Hopefully you have people around you that can recognize your overaggressive, and immature outlook on life and society.
Given all that........Piers rules.
It's not guns. It's not explosives. It is always the criminal. That is the incredibly difficult concept retarded liberals can't grasp, sad really. It is socially retarded liberals like yourself that continue to prove with every slurp of drivel they produce that the liberal agenda is a failure from beginning to end, with nothing but ruin to prove it's existence. Piers Morgan is a wanker without any moral compass, figures you would be a big admirer. He got fired from his last job in England for faking stories, perfect credentials to have his own show on CNN. You libtards are a riot, and one last note for you, regardless what your mama may have told you, violence does solve problems..........LOL
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This lack of judgement is the essence of the current demise of the Republican party. You just don't get it. The debt is the debt, and nothing changes that. And no one wants to see it rise regardless of your apparent racist and lack of knowledge of the term 'socialist'. After 8 destructive years of George Bush our economy was left in shambles do to his quick trigger wars, tax breaks for the pigs, lack of control with Wall St. regulation, and an imploding housing market. Our "socialist" President had to do something or it would have been a total economic collapse. I'm not sure if you have a portfolio, or even know what that means, but mine looks a whole lot better lately. A whole lot.
Now, getting back to your rising debt issue: Society and people need to be taken care of first. This includes health care for 32 million people that didn't have any. This also means that we need to fix a lot of the problems that are the real root causes of the debt in the first place. Our troops need to come home. Our ridiculous military budget needs to be controlled. Our schools are in dire need of proper funding. Regulation of Wall Street is long overdue. The insurance industry needs to be taken down a few notches. Our roads and bridges are disasters waiting to happen. Our seniors need to be secure in their golden years without the worry of a failed Social Security program. I don't know about you, but I've been paying into that for almost 40 years, so I want it there for me as well.
You just don't get it Guardian. It's about people....not money.
Are you a socialist, or a communist? I say Obama is a socialist, maybe even a communist, raised to be a Marxist by his own father and that makes me a Racist? That's hilarious, you can't realize how stupid that remark is, but do go on. Obama has run up more debt in one term than George W. Bush did in two. Can't explain that one, can't blame that on anyone but Obama and his wasteful policies. The Democrat party is a party in denial, and will be brought to ruin just like the Republican party was in the last presidential election. The rebirth of the New Republican party will overwhelm the next election for better of worse, and many Democrats have already acknowledged that as fact. Apparently some of the extremist liberals in the democrat party have a short memory, or are at the end of their political careers and just don't care anymore who in their own party pays the price for their legacy of failure. they know gun control brought them a reversal of fortune in 94' and it will again, the damage is already done.
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Are you a socialist, or a communist? I say Obama is a socialist, maybe even a communist, raised to be a Marxist by his own father and that makes me a Racist? That's hilarious, you can't realize how stupid that remark is, but do go on. Obama has run up more debt in one term than George W. Bush did in two. Can't explain that one, can't blame that on anyone but Obama and his wasteful policies. The Democrat party is a party in denial, and will be brought to ruin just like the Republican party was in the last presidential election. The rebirth of the New Republican party will overwhelm the next election for better of worse, and many Democrats have already acknowledged that as fact. Apparently some of the extremist liberals in the democrat party have a short memory, or are at the end of their political careers and just don't care anymore who in their own party pays the price for their legacy of failure. they know gun control brought them a reversal of fortune in 94' and it will again, the damage is already done.
Omg you're funny! Raised to be a Marxist? That's the best one yet! Did he have to attend some special school or camp for this Marxist training? Your continued use of immature name calling is a real sign of a person that just gave up on himself. Did something happen in your childhood that makes you so antagonistic and bitter? You seem 'somewhat' educated (high school level maybe), but your continuous attacks certainly point to a potentially disturbed individual. While i do feel some genuine empathy toward you, I feel more sympathy for people that may actually know you. Get some help young man. You're in trouble.
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It's not guns. It's not explosives. It is always the criminal. That is the incredibly difficult concept retarded liberals can't grasp, sad really. It is socially retarded liberals like yourself that continue to prove with every slurp of drivel they produce that the liberal agenda is a failure from beginning to end, with nothing but ruin to prove it's existence. Piers Morgan is a wanker without any moral compass, figures you would be a big admirer. He got fired from his last job in England for faking stories, perfect credentials to have his own show on CNN. You libtards are a riot, and one last note for you, regardless what your mama may have told you, violence does solve problems..........LOL
And just what did the violence in CT solve?
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Spoken like a true.......well, refer to my name. Just how many of those have happened since? We're seeing mass murders almost on a daily basis now, and I've yet to see any of the perpetrators use explosives. And while one can obtain explosives or make your own (Oklahoma City/Timothy McVeigh) there just aren't back room Explosive Shows like there are with guns where a lot of all weapons are obtained illegally.
Stop watching the cartoon network (Fox News), and be glad Mr. Romney is not our president.
Have you ever been to a gun show? I would challenge you to tell me how gun shows promote "Illegal" gun shows. Every purchase at a gun show reqires the same standard backround check as any gun shop.

Do you even know what activity at gun shows has spawned this left wing idea of illegal sales?

This is the problem with most big mouth, little nad libs. They talk about what they know nothing, they do not talk to the hundreds of thousands of sportsmen and collectors across this great country who have decided that the tool that won freedom and keeps us free is a work of art, each with it's own personality and set of specs. I wonder why these gun control nuts do not feel the same way about the control of the sales of any car that can go over 55 MPH? Refresh me if I am wrong, however, does not traffic accidents trump deaths that involve guns?
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Have you ever been to a gun show? I would challenge you to tell me how gun shows promote "Illegal" gun shows. Every purchase at a gun show reqires the same standard backround check as any gun shop.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

http://goo.gl/Om9iq

http://www.csgv.org/issues-and-campaigns/gun-...

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<quoted text>Somebody sounds a little scared. Better go hug and stroke your killing machines. Maybe even go shoot a deer 150 times or something.
What a shocker. a comment that has absolutely nothing to do with the present discussion.
Why don't you show us an example of anyone ever shooting a deer 150 times.
Deflect much?

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<quoted text>And those explosives you mentioned....they just went off by themselves? You seem to really be on edge. You're quick to attack anyone on here whether you understand the topic or not. It's loose cannons like you that give us responsible gun owners a bad name. Maybe a few less hours per day of video games would be a good start for you. Hopefully you have people around you that can recognize your overaggressive, and immature outlook on life and society.
Given all that........Piers rules.
Lmao! You make his point for him, then jump right back into the deflection game.

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<quoted text>This lack of judgement is the essence of the current demise of the Republican party. You just don't get it. The debt is the debt, and nothing changes that. And no one wants to see it rise regardless of your apparent racist and lack of knowledge of the term 'socialist'. After 8 destructive years of George Bush our economy was left in shambles do to his quick trigger wars, tax breaks for the pigs, lack of control with Wall St. regulation, and an imploding housing market. Our "socialist" President had to do something or it would have been a total economic collapse. I'm not sure if you have a portfolio, or even know what that means, but mine looks a whole lot better lately. A whole lot.
Now, getting back to your rising debt issue: Society and people need to be taken care of first. This includes health care for 32 million people that didn't have any. This also means that we need to fix a lot of the problems that are the real root causes of the debt in the first place. Our troops need to come home. Our ridiculous military budget needs to be controlled. Our schools are in dire need of proper funding. Regulation of Wall Street is long overdue. The insurance industry needs to be taken down a few notches. Our roads and bridges are disasters waiting to happen. Our seniors need to be secure in their golden years without the worry of a failed Social Security program. I don't know about you, but I've been paying into that for almost 40 years, so I want it there for me as well.
You just don't get it Guardian. It's about people....not money.
Do you even know what racist means? Apparently you don't.

Any president should have had to do something. Adding to the debt at a record pace wouldn't be the first choice!

Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid are not the same as the other government handout programs like Welfare, government housing, food stamps... The list is long. Spending MUST be cut. Those other handout programs are a good place to start.

I hate to break it to you. Social Security is doomed. I don't know exactly when it will collapse. It will collapse.

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<quoted text>Are you a socialist, or a communist? I say Obama is a socialist, maybe even a communist, raised to be a Marxist by his own father and that makes me a Racist? That's hilarious, you can't realize how stupid that remark is, but do go on. Obama has run up more debt in one term than George W. Bush did in two. Can't explain that one, can't blame that on anyone but Obama and his wasteful policies. The Democrat party is a party in denial, and will be brought to ruin just like the Republican party was in the last presidential election. The rebirth of the New Republican party will overwhelm the next election for better of worse, and many Democrats have already acknowledged that as fact. Apparently some of the extremist liberals in the democrat party have a short memory, or are at the end of their political careers and just don't care anymore who in their own party pays the price for their legacy of failure. they know gun control brought them a reversal of fortune in 94' and it will again, the damage is already done.
I agree with your assessment of liberals and the Democrat Party. But short of a revolution cleansing this country, a Conservative or Republican can't be elected ever again. There are too many government handout recipients on the voter rolls. They will never vote for someone that wants to reform that system.
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You are so very typical of the gun control chairborne ranger who never does anything in person and uses little blogs and U-Tube clips as your source of information.

I happen to own about 20 guns, mostly bought from stand alone gun shops, however, a few purchased from gun shows. Now to answer your next question of why I feel the need to own so many guns. I am a life long competitive shooter, I currently participate in Cowboy Action Shooting as well as ICORE matches. In the past I have shot NSSA and patch round ball shooting. No, I have not only been in the gun hobby, I have also participated in SCCA and NASCAR racing as well as an avid camper.

I have been to many, many gun shows and I can tell you that if dealers are making illegal sales they are few and far between. At every gun show across the state of Virginia not only is there a massive uniformed police presence, there are also many, many plain clothes and undercover officers present at all times observing the actions of both customers and dealers.

If you are capable of such give me an honest answer to a question, why would a dealer at a gun show who follows the circuit put his credentials and freedom at risk to make an illegal sale when he can make so much legal money selling to the legal customers who stand in line for his product?

The only real so called loop hole in gun shows is the individual who walks the isles as a customer and then talks to other customers and takes them to the parking lot where in the trunk of his car might be some sort of gun he wants to sell. Just another slant of the American tradition of private sale. By the way, all gun show promoters hate these private sales for many reasons and have the undercover and plain clothes cops looking for them and stopping them. Think of it this way, these private sales do not provide any income for the dealers, vendors or anybody in the gun show business and they also bring a lot of the negative press to the shows.

Perhaps you should get off of your a$$ and go to a gun show and not just rely on web sites for your knowledge.

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