Why there is a need for the Second Am...

Why there is a need for the Second Amendment

There are 245 comments on the Tampa Bay Online story from Jan 3, 2013, titled Why there is a need for the Second Amendment. In it, Tampa Bay Online reports that:

Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga., in the wake of the Newtown, Conn., shootings, said: "The British are not coming.

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#87 Jan 6, 2013
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
<quoted text>Who makes up a Militia? Why is a Militia formed? Who supplies the arms for the Militia?
Answer those questions and you can't help but see the light!

I'm willing to bet you will ignore the questions, however, because you don't want to see the light.
Now you've done it! You've given the progressives a homework assignment that will enlighten them. Stand back, their head is likely to explode!
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#88 Jan 6, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Sure...then why do other countries that have tons of gun owners not have the repeated, mass public shootings the US does?
Would you please list those countries whom have NOT at sometime slaughtered their own inhabitants for political purposes or at the whim of a dictator. Would you please list those countries that recognize citizens right to oppose their oppressive governments with force if necessary and ensure they are properly armed to do so. Would you name all the countries that were considered free (not under control of a dictator or other non elected form of government) upon creation of the U.S. Can you name how many countries have changed their form of government since the creation of the U.S. in favor of using the U.S. as a template (including the U.K.).

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#89 Jan 6, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
<quoted text>Now you've done it! You've given the progressives a homework assignment that will enlighten them. Stand back, their head is likely to explode!
Lmao!
Yeah, I don't expect to hear back from them. It's been over three hours as it is, and nothing but silence.
They'll wait till they think its blown over, then they'll be back spreading socialist propaganda.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#90 Jan 6, 2013
Tray wrote:
<quoted text> Would you please list those countries whom have NOT at sometime slaughtered their own inhabitants for political purposes or at the whim of a dictator. Would you please list those countries that recognize citizens right to oppose their oppressive governments with force if necessary and ensure they are properly armed to do so. Would you name all the countries that were considered free (not under control of a dictator or other non elected form of government) upon creation of the U.S. Can you name how many countries have changed their form of government since the creation of the U.S. in favor of using the U.S. as a template (including the U.K.).
Why would I? what does that have to deo with anything?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#91 Jan 6, 2013
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
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Not at all.
You must be one of those socialists trying to sell the " more guns = more crime and murder.
The facts don't back your claim. As the number of guns have gone up over recent years, the number of murders and the number of murders by guns have consistently gone down.
You were saying?
those were your facts. I said no such thing.
Drink the hivE

New York, NY

#92 Jan 6, 2013

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#93 Jan 6, 2013
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
<quoted text>
Who makes up a Militia? Why is a Militia formed? Who supplies the arms for the Militia?
Answer those questions and you can't help but see the light!
I'm willing to bet you will ignore the questions, however, because you don't want to see the light.
It certainly ain't the citizens bringing their own muskets to the militia barracks, now is it?

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#94 Jan 6, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>It certainly ain't the citizens bringing their own muskets to the militia barracks, now is it?
Why don't you answer the questions?

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#95 Jan 6, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Why would I? what does that have to deo with anything?
Sounds like avoidance to me.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#96 Jan 6, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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Sounds like avoidance to me.
Sound s like you don't have a point...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#97 Jan 6, 2013
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
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Why don't you answer the questions?
i did. You seem off tonight in your comprehension.

Our nation provides the weapons for our militia, not the citizens bringing their privately owned weapons.

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#98 Jan 6, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>It certainly ain't the citizens bringing their own muskets to the militia barracks, now is it?
At the time the second amendment was written, that is exactly what was meant.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#99 Jan 6, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>i did. You seem off tonight in your comprehension.

Our nation provides the weapons for our militia, not the citizens bringing their privately owned weapons.
Lmao! You give one INCORRECT answer in reply to three different questions. Yet you claim it is me that is off tonight in my comprehension.

You are wrong. Please explain your thought process.
It's not rocket science. If US Citizens must stand up to our government, in the case of tyranny, you think that government is going to provide them with weapons? Come on! Ignorance by choice must be your motivation. You really can't be that stupid.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#100 Jan 6, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
<quoted text>At the time the second amendment was written, that is exactly what was meant.
That is absolutely correct.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#101 Jan 6, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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At the time the second amendment was written, that is exactly what was meant.
And that has what to do with now or Prep's question?

you really need to focus...
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#102 Jan 6, 2013
Whereas civil rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as military forces, which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms..........The militia of these free commonwealths, entitled and accustomed to their arms, when compared with any possible army, must be tremendous and irresistible. Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birth-right of an American ...the unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people.........The militia, who are in fact the effective part of the people at large. They will form a powerful check upon the regular troops, and will generally be sufficient to over-awe them........

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#103 Jan 6, 2013
Tray wrote:
Whereas civil rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as military forces, which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms..........The militia of these free commonwealths, entitled and accustomed to their arms, when compared with any possible army, must be tremendous and irresistible. Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birth-right of an American ...the unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever reAgainmain, in the hands of the people.........The militia, who are in fact the effective part of the people at large. They will form a powerful check upon the regular troops, and will generally be sufficient to over-awe them........
Again, when has that ever happened in teh US? when has your second amendment right prevented tyranny of the US gov't?

Why didn' t the armed US citizens stop the roundup of asians in the 40's? why didn't it stop the roundup of mexicans,(some of them multi-generational US citizens) in CA and other staes in the 30's? Seems your idea of a militia protecting from tyranny just never happens....Seems those guns are usually used to support such tyranny...

sorry charlie...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#105 Jan 6, 2013
Josh Green wrote:
Is there a need for the first amendment?
Yes. It is the most importnant of them as it protects all the rest of them...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#106 Jan 6, 2013
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
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That is absolutely correct.
but it didn't answer your question about now, did it?

Whaa waa waaaaaaaa.......
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#107 Jan 6, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Again, when has that ever happened in teh US? when has your second amendment right prevented tyranny of the US gov't?
Why didn' t the armed US citizens stop the roundup of asians in the 40's? why didn't it stop the roundup of mexicans,(some of them multi-generational US citizens) in CA and other staes in the 30's? Seems your idea of a militia protecting from tyranny just never happens....Seems those guns are usually used to support such tyranny...
sorry charlie...
A right to defend against oppression is never needed till the oppressed can't defend from it.

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