Moms make case for gun control

Moms make case for gun control

There are 9248 comments on the usatoday.com story from Mar 16, 2013, titled Moms make case for gun control. In it, usatoday.com reports that:

Peg Paulson had never beaten a path through the halls of Congress before or met a U.S. senator's staffer or advocated for a controversial issue.

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spocko

Oakland, CA

#1398 May 7, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
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And what actions by Zimmerman would put Martin in fear for his life or imminent bodily harm?? Be specific and prove your claim.
Stop talking like you were there ans saw the entire episode - ye moron! After all, it is you friggen gunloons telling us to arm ourselves in case we are being stalked or robbed - that is exactly what your hero Zimmerman did and he got promptly beat up for it and then cowardly used deadly force when being confronted ...
spocko

Oakland, CA

#1399 May 7, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
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And when was the weapon produced? The eye witnesses have said that a shot wasn't heard until they were on the ground and Martin was pounding Zimmerman's head into the concrete.
Gunloonery
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Buy

Huntsville, AL

#1400 May 7, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
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what do you think Martin's intent was?
skittles and go back to his house. Not to be stalked and shot.

GunShow1

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#1401 May 7, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Wipe your chin, Jzzmcheeks, you have pedophile spooge leaking...
Your looking at yourself in the mirror again, dullard.
spocko

Oakland, CA

#1402 May 7, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
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No. According to the girlfriend on the phone, he asked "Why are you following me?" To which Zimmerman replied "What are you doing here?" And then she heard a scuffle. Who hit who first? The lack of any offensive injuries to Martin other than a single GSW and a skinned finger suggests that it was MArtin who struck Zimmerman, which was Zimmerman's claim. His broken nose and two black eyes also lends to that claim. And without any evidence to the contrary, what are you going to believe???
It doesn't matter one iota what anyone "thinks" happened that night. Not. One. Bit. All that matters is what can be proven. I challenge each and every one of you who thinks Martin was innocent in this case to make your case with what EVIDENCE has been presented thus far. Leave your conjecture and personal feelings at home. Because if all you have is "playing wannabe cop", "stalking", etc.....Zimmerman walks.
Hey pea-brain, why don't you enlighten us with your "know-it-all" wizardry: If gun-control is so useless, according to you friggen gunloons, why then is it that not a single crime is ever committed with a machine gun ever since they were outlawed in 1934 and 1986 respectively?

GunShow1

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#1403 May 7, 2013
spocko wrote:
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Stop talking like you were there ans saw the entire episode - ye moron! After all, it is you friggen gunloons telling us to arm ourselves in case we are being stalked or robbed - that is exactly what your hero Zimmerman did and he got promptly beat up for it and then cowardly used deadly force when being confronted ...
"...'A man may repel force by force in defense of his person, habitation, or property against one who manifestly intends and endeavors, by violence or surprise, to commit a known felony, such as murder, rape, robbery, arson, burglary, and the like, upon either. In these cases he is not obliged to retreat, but may pursue his adversary until he has secured himself from all danger; and if he kill him in so doing it is called justifiable self-defense..."-- Mr. Justice HARLAN, U.S. Supreme Court, Beard v. U.S., May 27, 1895.

GunShow1

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#1404 May 7, 2013
spocko wrote:
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Hey pea-brain, why don't you enlighten us with your "know-it-all" wizardry: If gun-control is so useless, according to you friggen gunloons, why then is it that not a single crime is ever committed with a machine gun ever since they were outlawed in 1934 and 1986 respectively?
Not so. Criminals in governments have used machine guns to kill MILLIONS in that time period.
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#1406 May 7, 2013
spocko wrote:
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Stop talking like you were there ans saw the entire episode - ye moron! After all, it is you friggen gunloons telling us to arm ourselves in case we are being stalked or robbed - that is exactly what your hero Zimmerman did and he got promptly beat up for it and then cowardly used deadly force when being confronted ...
Confronted? How about attacked and brutally beaten?

Yes, that's exactly why we suggest you carry a firearm; in case you are attacked by a curb cadette like Travon. If not for having his firearm, Zimmerman may be in the ground today instead of Martin.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#1407 May 7, 2013
spocko wrote:
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Stop talking like you were there ans saw the entire episode - ye moron! After all, it is you friggen gunloons telling us to arm ourselves in case we are being stalked or robbed - that is exactly what your hero Zimmerman did and he got promptly beat up for it and then cowardly used deadly force when being confronted ...
I am NOT talking like I was there. I am talking like someone who has taken an objective look AT THE EVIDENCE AND REPORTS that have been released thus far, and NOT using emotion and conjecture to form my opinion.

He used deadly force AFTER his head was being beaten into a concrete sidewalk..... A LIFE THREATENING ATTACK, you f**king moron.
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#1408 May 7, 2013
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>They were both strangers.
From that perspective, they were on a level playing field... until the weapon was produced.
If you are defenseless from an attacker after being beaten, that's not a level playing field.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#1409 May 7, 2013
Buy wrote:
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skittles and go back to his house. Not to be stalked and shot.
And he had plenty of time to do just that. But that's not what he chose to do is it?

Remember...he had a two-minute window in which he had ran off from Zimmerman. He. Was. Gone. Until HE decided to not stay gone.

GunShow1

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#1410 May 7, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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If you are defenseless from an attacker after being beaten, that's not a level playing field.
"...'A man may repel force by force in defense of his person, habitation, or property against one who manifestly intends and endeavors, by violence or surprise, to commit a known felony, such as murder, rape, robbery, arson, burglary, and the like, upon either. In these cases he is not obliged to retreat, but may pursue his adversary until he has secured himself from all danger; and if he kill him in so doing it is called justifiable self-defense..."-- Mr. Justice HARLAN, U.S. Supreme Court, Beard v. U.S., May 27, 1895.

You do understand English, right?
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#1411 May 7, 2013
Yeah wrote:
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the kid probably asked the stalker WTF he was doing stalking him.
I've said my peace. You have no special knowledge. The facts are that Zimmerman had no business playing cop, he should not prowling around with a gun looking for trouble and if he suspected something, he should have let the police handle it. A kid is dead. There will be a trial and because he killed the witness it will be hard to prove murder, but manslaughter is a likely result.
Prowling around with a gun? He was going grocery shopping for crying out loud.

You Martin guys keep writing "Martin had every right to be where he was." Okay, if Martin had every right to be anywhere in that complex, why didn't Zimmerman have that same right? After all, he was a resident there. Martin was just visiting.

Given the fact that the complex was being plagued with crime, Zimmerman had every right to believe that Martin was one of those criminals. After Martin attacked him, of course Zimmerman thought he was being beaten by one of the criminals that were responsible for those break-ins. I would have killed him too.
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#1412 May 7, 2013
Duh wrote:
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being stalked or confronted by some crazy guy for no apparent reason.
So why didn't he run to the apartment was staying at. Why didn't he call the police himself instead of yapping with his girlfriend?

I don't think he was all that concerned given his actions of that night.
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#1413 May 7, 2013
Maybe wrote:
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not illegal, but clearly a pattern of looking to create trouble and harassing a black kid. He was not a cop and has no business playing one. If anything about his version of events is true (of course, he conveniently killed the witness)it sounds like the kid was "standing his ground."
Manslaughter for sure. Murder may be harder to prove.
Stand Your Ground does not apply to people lurking in the dark behind houses waiting for his victim. SYG means that you don't have to back down when somebody approaches you. There is no evidence whatsoever that Zimmerman approached Martin. I'm quite sure it was the other way around.
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#1414 May 7, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
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"...'A man may repel force by force in defense of his person, habitation, or property against one who manifestly intends and endeavors, by violence or surprise, to commit a known felony, such as murder, rape, robbery, arson, burglary, and the like, upon either. In these cases he is not obliged to retreat, but may pursue his adversary until he has secured himself from all danger; and if he kill him in so doing it is called justifiable self-defense..."-- Mr. Justice HARLAN, U.S. Supreme Court, Beard v. U.S., May 27, 1895.
You do understand English, right?
I think you replied to the wrong post.

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#1415 May 7, 2013
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>He's a victim son.
The claim of attack is only from Zimmerman, no one else.
You are incorrect.
ALL the physical evidence bears witness to the fact that Martin attacked Zimmerman. In fact it was this physical evidence that led to the police releasing Zimmerman the night of the attack by Martin.
Zimmerman said it was self defense. The physical evidence supported that truth. They let him go - until Sharpton and Jackson lied about the incident on national TV. You notice that Sharpton and Jackson are eerily silent now ain't they. It is because they lied and got caught at it.

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#1416 May 7, 2013
Exactly wrote:
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Zimmerman was the only one who got to tell a story, and might get away with manslaughter. Facts are that he was the instigator, did not follow the dispatcher's instructions, was armed and playing cop, and the kid was unarmed and not doing anything wrong.
You ever hear of forensic evidence?
It tells a story. It is a story that will get told in court. It is the same rendition that Zimmerman gave the night Martin attacked him. Forensic evidence are facts that can not be disputed Einstein.
spocko

Oakland, CA

#1417 May 7, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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If you are defenseless from an attacker after being beaten, that's not a level playing field.
So the guy with the gun is being beaten up ..

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#1418 May 7, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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The pedophile isn't going to get to tell his story in court- his attorney won't allow him to take the stand.
Since he's already been caught lying.
His ugly fat lying wife is up next.
Zimmerman does not need to take the stand.
The evidence will testify for him and on his behalf.
Watch and see.

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