Moms make case for gun control

Mar 16, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: usatoday.com

Peg Paulson had never beaten a path through the halls of Congress before or met a U.S. senator's staffer or advocated for a controversial issue.

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Are U Serious wrote:
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Aren't there already laws on the book covering illegal purchases of guns?
with the NRA blocking enforcement

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politi...

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with the NRA blocking enforcement
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politi...
"The Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms shall NOT be infringed".

There's NOTHING to "enforce", dimwit. Except for the U.S. Constitution.

Don't like it? MOVE.
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not wrote:
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with the NRA blocking enforcement
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politi...
So the police, ATF, and FBI are not being allowed to enforce laws that are already on the books concerning illegal gun purchases?
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GunShow1 wrote:
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late to this discussion, dimwit. Quit embarrassing yourself with your off-topic spam..
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GunShow1 wrote:
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"The Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms shall NOT be infringed".
What are you a friggen parrot repeating your broken record thing? Once a right or a privilege is being abused we the people have a responsibility and a duty to pass laws curtailing these abuses and helping those that are being abused. A bunch of stupid and intolerant ideological talking points won't do!
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"The Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms shall NOT be infringed".
There's NOTHING to "enforce", dimwit. Except for the U.S. Constitution.
Don't like it? MOVE.
Allow me to infringe on your god given right to be stupid. Ever thought about what the term "arms" actually meant 200 years ago? This issue isn't about our rights, it isn't about our history, and it isn't about a way of life. Our hunting, shooting and self-defense are literally secondary concerns here. What we're trying right now isn't working. We have exceptionally high gun ownership rates in this country. We have stellar law enforcement, a powerful and talented FBI, and the most powerful military in the world: combined expenditures of hundreds of billions of dollars a year in the name of keeping our citizens safe – and they fail time after time. Why not give law enforcement and the FBI as much info as possible on the status and movement of guns?

Guns were regulated in the U.S. from the earliest years of the Republic. Laws that banned the carrying of concealed weapons were passed in Kentucky and Louisiana in 1813. Followed by Indiana in 1820, Tennessee and Virginia in 1838, Alabama in 1839 and Ohio in 1859. Similar laws were passed in Texas, Florida and Oklahoma. As the governor of Texas explained in 1893,“the mission of the concealed deadly weapon is murder. To check it is the duty of every self-respecting, law-abiding man."

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Not quite, troll:
It does, troll.

And you rolling around stomping your hooves doesn't change that.

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GunShow1 wrote:
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"The Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms shall NOT be infringed".
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If you don't like the US Second Amendment the way it is, GayDavy, why don't you try to change it to your version?

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spocko wrote:
<quoted text>Melato? You can't even make it as a racist - ye retard!
Ah, and there is the third move. When insults and the race card don't work, suddenly become the spelling police despite posting some doozies yourself.

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<quoted text>because it is a racist term and intended as a racial slur, bonehead.
Still waiting on that example Einstein. Back your claims!
All you can do is detract, distract, and avoid. Like clock work.

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Still waiting! This is not an example of a pro gun organization attempting to stop prosecution of someone caught illegally attempting to purchase a gun!
In 2010, 15,000 criminals and felons attempted to purchase a gun illegally. 44 of them were prosecuted. You stated that was because pro gun organizations fought to prevent prosecution of those criminals and felons. Now prove it. Show one example of a criminal or felon that was caught attempting to purchase a firearm illegally, that a pro gun organization stepped in to fight their prosecution. Just one example . You've already proven you can't, by posting this grasp at straws post!

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Ah, and there is the third move.
don't dish it out, humpback, if you can't take it.

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Still waiting! This is not an example of a pro gun organization attempting to stop prosecution of someone caught illegally attempting to purchase a gun!
Still waiting! Example of a "pro gun" organization that isn't confused by universal background checks and the second amendment!

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In 2010, 15,000 criminals and felons attempted to purchase a gun illegally. 44 of them were prosecuted.
It hasn't changed from when George Bush was president, Honey.

Love to hear you state you want to prosecute the people who sell them firearms with equal vigor.

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Show one example of a criminal or felon that was caught attempting to purchase a firearm illegally, that a pro gun organization stepped in to fight their prosecution.
Yet I can point to many they are fighting tooth and nail for the "right" to sell weapons to complete strangers without doing a background check.
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A gun dealer, who supplies multiple murderers with guns he claims were “stolen” from his inventory, guns he never recorded on his books, or guns he sold to straw buyers with a wink and a nod, can operate with virtual impunity, thanks to laws written by the NRA.

One of these, passed in 1986, drastically reduced penalties for dealers who violate record-keeping laws, making violations misdemeanors rather than felonies. Another established an absurdly high standard of proof to convict dealers who sell to criminals. In 2003, Congress, at the NRA’s urging, barred the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, the much-maligned agency responsible for enforcing federal gun laws, from forcing dealers to conduct inventory inspections that would detect lost and stolen guns. Car dealers like to know when inventory goes missing. Gun dealers? Not so curious.

Most astonishingly, the same NRA-inspired law forces the FBI to destroy Brady background checks for gun purchases within 24 hours, which makes it harder for law enforcement to identify dealers who falsify their records and makes it impossible to cross-check purchases made by gun traffickers from multiple dealers. Although federal law requires a dealer who sells more than one handgun to a single individual in a five-day period to file a special report with the BATF, the agency is unable to cross-check purchases from multiple dealers, so gun traffickers can simply hop from one gun store to the next, buying a single handgun at each until they accumulate the arsenals they want. Put another way, the NRA and its backers in Congress created a law that forces the FBI to destroy evidence of crimes, evidence of illegal multiple gun purchases.

The FBI warned Congress that passage of this 24-hour law would allow 97 percent of criminal buyers to escape apprehension, and the Justice Department’s inspector general said the law’s principal beneficiaries would be criminal gun dealers. But this doesn’t bother the NRA. It even opposes common-sense local ordinances requiring that gun dealers and private citizens report lost or stolen firearms within 24 to 48 hours. Police support these laws because they want to move quickly when a gun is lost or stolen (a half-million are stolen each year), before someone gets shot. They’re also supported by 78 percent of NRA members, who apparently recognize their value for public safety. They’re just not supported by the NRA leadership, which says they don’t work.
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And why can’t the BATF cross-check purchases by gun traffickers? Because in 1979 — and every year since — the NRA, which is obsessed with federal record-keeping, has gotten the Congress to prohibit creation of a centralized database of gun purchases. Among the NRA’s leading evangelists, whose faith in the durability of American democracy hovers perennially just above zero, it is an incontrovertible article of faith that such a database would allow a totalitarian government, such as the one LaPierre predicts if Barack Obama is reelected, to identify gun owners and seize their guns.

At this point, it might be useful to pause and take a deep breath. We can probably all agree that confiscating 300 million guns held by fully a third of U.S. households would be one formidable and messy undertaking. Let’s ignore the fact that this would be illegal and unconstitutional, and that the vast majority of Americans would find this eventuality unlikely . Let’s also ignore the question of who, exactly, would do this. Marines? Police? The National Guard? Does anyone living in the 21st century really believe that a dictatorial government would need a centralized database if it wanted to snatch our guns?

In a world where U.S. intelligence agencies can pinpoint a person’s exact location using a cellphone’s GPS, where tens of thousands of video cameras are running 24/7 in public and private spaces, where a vast smorgasbord of computers contains the most intimate details of our lives, from the movies we watch to the brand of toilet paper we prefer, even LaPierre must realize that it is patently absurd to claim that figuring out who has a gun requires a national registry. Identifying the most strident gun-rights true believers would be easiest of all, since they’re constantly advertising themselves. Credit card records of gun purchases, lists of subscribers to gun aficionado and paramilitary magazines, not to mention Field and Stream, chat rooms, Facebook, websites, tweets and blogs — the LL Bean mailing list!— contain the names of tens of millions of hunters, sportsmen, grandmothers and other gun owners.

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What are you a friggen parrot repeating your broken record thing? Once a right or a privilege is being abused we the people have a responsibility and a duty to pass laws curtailing these abuses and helping those that are being abused. A bunch of stupid and intolerant ideological talking points won't do!
Then put your brothers, sisters, mothers, and fathers in jail for committing the crimes, friggin traitor.

The FACT remains:

"The Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms shall NOT be infringed".

And >you< cowardly and fearful freaks aren't going to do ANYTHING about it. We The People have SPOKEN. And you cowardly traitors are just going to have to learn to DEAL WITH IT. Or, move to a communist/socialist country.

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Yet I can point to many they are fighting tooth and nail for the "right" to sell weapons to complete strangers without doing a background check.
Then DO IT, you lying little filth-troll. Stop spewing your ignorant lying conjecture, and PROVE IT.

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Still waiting! Example of a "pro gun" organization that isn't confused by universal background checks and the second amendment!
"WE THE PEOPLE"

"The Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms shall NOT be infringed".

Take a hike, filth-troll. There's some toilets that need scrubbed out with that tongue of yours.

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