Moms make case for gun control

Moms make case for gun control

There are 9248 comments on the usatoday.com story from Mar 16, 2013, titled Moms make case for gun control. In it, usatoday.com reports that:

Peg Paulson had never beaten a path through the halls of Congress before or met a U.S. senator's staffer or advocated for a controversial issue.

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spocko

Oakland, CA

#978 Apr 23, 2013
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
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So people with IRAs that grow at say 15% per year, aren't really investing or profiting unless they cash it in immediately?
Yes genius, in order to avail yourself of your investment profit(s) you are going to have to liquidate it - what a concept eh! You just said so yourself in you next sentence - ye moron!
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
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BTW, you take a penalty for cashing in that IRA early. I can sell my gold or silver today at a profit, if I so choose. And I don't have to pay a broker to buy it and sell it for me.
Why yes, just the other day I saw a guy on a street corner selling his gold - good luck to you, you'll need it ...
Yeah

Honolulu, HI

#979 Apr 23, 2013
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
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Actually no. I can sell it to another individual who wants to own gold FOR A PROFT. I'm not taking gold to the bank to convert it to cash.
Lets try the Mr. Rogers explanation, I paid $300 per ounce for gold in 2003, I sell it today for $1700 per ounce, and realize a profit of $1400 per ounce.$300 in,$1700 out =$1400 profit
You were referring to an IRA. You can always roll it over and depending on the rules, you can run a self directed IRA using cash.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#980 Apr 23, 2013
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
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Actually no. I can sell it to another individual who wants to own gold FOR A PROFT. I'm not taking gold to the bank to convert it to cash.
Lets try the Mr. Rogers explanation, I paid $300 per ounce for gold in 2003, I sell it today for $1700 per ounce, and realize a profit of $1400 per ounce.$300 in,$1700 out =$1400 profit
If you can get $1,700/oz now, you better jump on it. As of 30 seconds ago, it was trading for $1,413/oz, and is down $183 in the last 30 days.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#981 Apr 23, 2013
spocko wrote:
<quoted text>Yes genius, in order to avail yourself of your investment profit(s) you are going to have to liquidate it - what a concept eh! You just said so yourself in you next sentence - ye moron!
Prep-for-Dep wrote, "<quoted text>
BTW, you take a penalty for cashing in that IRA early. I can sell my gold or silver today at a profit, if I so choose. And I don't have to pay a broker to buy it and sell it for me.
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Why yes, just the other day I saw a guy on a street corner selling his gold - good luck to you, you'll need it ...
Lmao. As has been pointed out to you previously, if you buy a stock at $10 a share, and it goes up in value, you pay tax on that profit, even if you did not sell it.

I will have no problems selling gold. There are signs all over the place stating,"we buy gold", and listing a phone number. Or the sign is posted in front of a business. Just admit you bit off more than you can chew.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#982 Apr 23, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
<quoted text>If you can get $1,700/oz now, you better jump on it. As of 30 seconds ago, it was trading for $1,413/oz, and is down $183 in the last 30 days.
Wow. I hadn't looked at it recently. I don't plan on selling it anyway. But thanks for the info.
spocko

Oakland, CA

#983 Apr 23, 2013
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
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Lmao. As has been pointed out to you previously, if you buy a stock at $10 a share, and it goes up in value, you pay tax on that profit, even if you did not sell it.
I will have no problems selling gold. There are signs all over the place stating,"we buy gold", and listing a phone number. Or the sign is posted in front of a business. Just admit you bit off more than you can chew.
So you f-ing idiot are willing to sell it for a fraction of the market value to a pawn shop - it's genius ye bloody moron!

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#984 Apr 23, 2013
spocko wrote:
<quoted text>So you f-ing idiot are willing to sell it for a fraction of the market value to a pawn shop - it's genius ye bloody moron!
Where did I say anything about a pawn shop? Again putting words in my mouth to attempt making a point, I see. Maybe I'll start posting with a few fill in the blanks, to help you with putting words in my mouth.
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#985 Apr 23, 2013
spocko wrote:
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Looks like we found ourselves an investment genius, Here is simple question for you, every trader struggles with this every single day: regardless of whether your position goes positive or negative you can either stop the loss or lock in the gain how do you think we do that? Of course there is a third option, you can also just let it run ...
Not sure about stocks, but in the commodities market, you can enter a stop-loss price. Let's say you are profiting on cattle. You started at $79.00 and are up to $84.00. You can put your stop-loss at $82.50. If it drops to that price, your contract is automatically sold. Same holds true on profits as well.

Some do let it go, but have protection. This is called Hedging. What you do is buy a long contract (long meaning you expect the price to increase) and buy a Put Option contract (meaning you profit if the price drops).

The long contract goes as you expected. It increases in price and you are profiting. But your Put Option is taking a beating. This is okay, because when you purchased your put option, you only lose the price of what you paid for that option. Not so with a live long contract. When the long contract loses money, you keep losing money as long as it continues to go down.

This is where the Put Option comes into play. You lost X amount of money, but are covered by your Put Option. When your Put Option hits strike price (the price where it starts to make money) it offsets your losses of your long contract.

So what I do is buy cotton at $40.00 with a strike price at $42.00. I buy a Put Option at the same time (Hedging) where the strike price is $38.00. My long contract hits $42.00 and keeps going. I make (let's say)$500.00. But my Put Option (which I obviously lost on) cost me $200.00. I still profited $300.00.

If the same thing happens but the price decreases. I lose $800.00 on my long contract, but since my Put Option kicked in and profited at $500.00. I only lost $300.00 instead of $800.00.

I can allow that long contract to continue to lose money as long as I want provided I don't sell my Put Option. No matter how low cotton goes, I will only lose $300.00.
spocko

Oakland, CA

#986 Apr 23, 2013
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
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Where did I say anything about a pawn shop? Again putting words in my mouth to attempt making a point, I see. Maybe I'll start posting with a few fill in the blanks, to help you with putting words in my mouth.
Stop back tracking you clearly stated seeing signs in public places advertising "we buy gold" now who do think that is? What are you a child?
Law

Bellevue, NE

#988 Apr 23, 2013
spocko wrote:
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Stop back tracking you clearly stated seeing signs in public places advertising "we buy gold" now who do think that is? What are you a child?
Said the 4 year old brat.
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#989 Apr 23, 2013
Bluntforce wrote:
<quoted text>Here's a quick tip, asshat, Quit going to government web sites to get your talking points. They are as full of shit as you are.
Another tip, leave the neighborhood kids alone, they don't want to take a ride in your van and go see a pony. They are on to you.
You should go to Somalia. They have no government.

“O'er the land of the free ? ”

Since: Jan 09

Don't Tread On Me

#990 Apr 24, 2013
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
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Wow. I hadn't looked at it recently. I don't plan on selling it anyway. But thanks for the info.
Ron Paul Holds Up Silver Ounce and Tells Bernanke He's Killing the Dollar 2/29

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#991 Apr 24, 2013
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
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Wow. I hadn't looked at it recently. I don't plan on selling it anyway. But thanks for the info.
You would be smarter to sell it now for a substantial profit. Bank the profit. Then rebuy when it bottoms out (if you can time it right)

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#992 Apr 24, 2013
spocko wrote:
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Stop back tracking you clearly stated seeing signs in public places advertising "we buy gold" now who do think that is? What are you a child?
Just about every jewelry store in this area has those same signs, especially the ones that make custom jewelry.

“BILLARY 2016 ”

Since: Aug 07

Location hidden

#994 Apr 24, 2013
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
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So your solution is to keep them disarmed, which has worked so well thus far.
You insist on projecting your shortcomings on others. Just because you piss your pants under stress, doesn't mean everyone else does also.
Unlike cowardly gun toters, I don't live my life looking over my shoulder, sleeping with one eye open, marking my calendar for the RACE WARS to begin or pretending like I can take over the US
gubberment if they make me angry, zippy. That's your life and I pity you. One day, you will die, whether you are clutching your silly litle gun or not. The reaper is coming......lmao

Back in the 70's, we were safer because there were less guns on the streets. More guns made us safer? bahahahahahahahaha
bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahh ahahahahahahha
bahahahahahahhahahahahahahhaha hhahb
ahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahah haha

I bet those 20 dead babies in Newtown feel REAL safe now.
spocko

Oakland, CA

#995 Apr 24, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
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Just about every jewelry store in this area has those same signs, especially the ones that make custom jewelry.
Our local jewelry story is just mobbed by investors to sell their gold - you're obviously an investment genius ... silly halfwit!

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#996 Apr 24, 2013
spocko wrote:
<quoted text>Stop back tracking you clearly stated seeing signs in public places advertising "we buy gold" now who do think that is? What are you a child?
It's places like coin shops, loan offices, individuals with side businesses, individuals that simply want to buy gold.
Sure, they may want to buy the gold for a few dollars less than the posted daily value, but its still a better deal than paying a broker to buy and sell for you. Not to mention, there is actual gold changing hands, not a piece of paper or an email confirmation.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#997 Apr 24, 2013
x0x0x wrote:
<quoted text>Unlike cowardly gun toters, I don't live my life looking over my shoulder, sleeping with one eye open, marking my calendar for the RACE WARS to begin or pretending like I can take over the US
gubberment if they make me angry, zippy. That's your life and I pity you. One day, you will die, whether you are clutching your silly litle gun or not. The reaper is coming......lmao

Back in the 70's, we were safer because there were less guns on the streets. More guns made us safer? bahahahahahahahaha
bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahh ahahahahahahha
bahahahahahahhahahahahahahhaha hhahb
ahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahah haha

I bet those 20 dead babies in Newtown feel REAL safe now.
Nice attempt at deflection.
Now answer the questions posed to you.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#998 Apr 24, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
<quoted text>You would be smarter to sell it now for a substantial profit. Bank the profit. Then rebuy when it bottoms out (if you can time it right)
That may be, but if we wake up with a worthless dollar, that green paper will be slightly less valuable than Quilted Northern.
spocko

Oakland, CA

#999 Apr 24, 2013
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
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It's places like coin shops, loan offices, individuals with side businesses, individuals that simply want to buy gold.
Sure, they may want to buy the gold for a few dollars less than the posted daily value, but its still a better deal than paying a broker to buy and sell for you. Not to mention, there is actual gold changing hands, not a piece of paper or an email confirmation.
Ignorance is bliss - good luck to you, gawd knows you need it!

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