Moms make case for gun control

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Peg Paulson had never beaten a path through the halls of Congress before or met a U.S. senator's staffer or advocated for a controversial issue.

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spocko

Oakland, CA

#5096 Jul 27, 2013
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
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So what? Punish the offender!
You never cease to amaze in the protecting of the criminal.
Trayvon Martin's case did punish the offender! He attacked Zimmerman, and suffered the consequences.
According to the laws of Florida, he got what he deserved. You have a problem with the laws of Florida and want revenge. You are wrong!
Wake up and smell the coffee. You are wrong. Blacks should want right over wrong. Not black over everything else.
As the moron rambles on and on and on ...
The NRA heavily lobbied the Florida legislature (as well as other States) for the “Stand Your Ground” bill. The NRA is using Florida as a model for a national campaign to get a similar law in every state — a campaign that continues even in the wake of the death of Trayvon Martin. The American Legislative Exchange Counsel (ALEC) formed a task force to draft model legislation based on the Florida bill. However, since the TM vs GZ case ALEC has dropped NRA sponsored bill.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#5097 Jul 27, 2013
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
<quoted text>
So what? Punish the offender!
You never cease to amaze in the protecting of the criminal.
Trayvon Martin's case did punish the offender!
The pedophile decided Martin was guilty before he got out of the truck.

The pedophile found himself standing between Martin and Martin's home.

What a coincidence!

“Uzi Does It”

Since: Nov 08

UZILAND

#5098 Jul 27, 2013
LOL, stand your ground law didn't apply to the killing of violent criminal Trayvon Martin, why is the leftards so fixated on stand your ground law when that law is proven to be successfully invoked by more blacks than whites?

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#5100 Jul 27, 2013
spocko wrote:
<quoted text>As the moron rambles on and on and on ...
The NRA heavily lobbied the Florida legislature (as well as other States) for the “Stand Your Ground” bill. The NRA is using Florida as a model for a national campaign to get a similar law in every state — a campaign that continues even in the wake of the death of Trayvon Martin. The American Legislative Exchange Counsel (ALEC) formed a task force to draft model legislation based on the Florida bill. However, since the TM vs GZ case ALEC has dropped NRA sponsored bill.
As well they should!

“BILLARY 2016 ”

Since: Aug 07

Location hidden

#5101 Jul 27, 2013
Richard_ wrote:
LOL, stand your ground law didn't apply to the killing of violent criminal Trayvon Martin, why is the leftards so fixated on stand your ground law when that law is proven to be successfully invoked by more blacks than whites?
Stand your ground doesn't apply when they were closer to Trayvon's home and Georgie could have stood his ground in his truck if he was really so afraid for his life. He wasn't afraid though . He wanted to kill a n***er that night and he did and the Sanford police practically threw him a party for doing so.
Like most gun toting cowards, he was too big of a pussy to admit his guilt and face his punishment. He took the cowards way out like a typical gun toting loser.

Trayvon was not a violent criminal but George is. No one is safe with him on the streets, especially black men, black boys, black women, black girls, Big Macs and Whoppers.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#5102 Jul 27, 2013
Richard_ wrote:
LOL, stand your ground law didn't apply to the killing of violent criminal Trayvon Martin, why is the leftards so fixated on stand your ground law when that law is proven to be successfully invoked by more blacks than whites?
Because it is a successful protection on law abiding rights.
It stands to reason that Blacks would invoke it more often than whites since there is more black on black crime.
Angered American

Rochester, MN

#5104 Jul 27, 2013
Every State should have a Stand your Ground Law

BTW Folks "Trayvon" had the choice of simply walking on home that night!

No Need for him to have attacked Mr. Zimmerman

However, Trayvon was nothing but a young thug with a gold grill in his mouth.

It was this Trayvon who went looking for trouble Folks
Marauder

Valdez, AK

#5105 Jul 27, 2013
x0x0x wrote:
<quoted text>Stand your ground doesn't apply when they were closer to Trayvon's home and Georgie could have stood his ground in his truck if he was really so afraid for his life. He wasn't afraid though . He wanted to kill a n***er that night and he did and the Sanford police practically threw him a party for doing so.
Like most gun toting cowards, he was too big of a pussy to admit his guilt and face his punishment. He took the cowards way out like a typical gun toting loser.
Trayvon was not a violent criminal but George is. No one is safe with him on the streets, especially black men, black boys, black women, black girls, Big Macs and Whoppers.
"No one is safe with him on the streets, especially black men, black boys, black women, black girls, Big Macs and Whoppers."

Lesson learned...don't attack someone without cause, you might get shot.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#5108 Jul 28, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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The pedophile found himself standing between Martin and Martin's home.
And as you claimed before...the onus is on YOU to prove it.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#5109 Jul 28, 2013
x0x0x wrote:
<quoted text>Stand your ground doesn't apply when they were closer to Trayvon's home and Georgie could have stood his ground in his truck if he was really so afraid for his life. He wasn't afraid though . He wanted to kill a n***er that night and he did and the Sanford police practically threw him a party for doing so.
Like most gun toting cowards, he was too big of a pussy to admit his guilt and face his punishment. He took the cowards way out like a typical gun toting loser.
Trayvon was not a violent criminal but George is. No one is safe with him on the streets, especially black men, black boys, black women, black girls, Big Macs and Whoppers.
Right, bacause non-violent people NEVER punch someone in the face and then pound their head into a concrete sidewalk. Too bad there is not one single piece of evidence to support your BULLSHIT claim. Oh, and your race card was SHREDDED a loooooong time ago. Let it go.
Marauder

Valdez, AK

#5110 Jul 28, 2013
spocko wrote:
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Actually it does not, stand your ground law protects criminals! Florida's "stand your ground" self-defense law should be titled the Criminals Relief Act. When the controversial law was enacted in 2005, law enforcement officials warned it would be invoked by people prone to violence and mayhem. Seven years later, it's clear, those fears have been realized. Gang members, drug dealers, domestic abusers and other criminals have walked away from killings thanks to "stand your ground," and it's clearer than ever that the law should be repealed. Lawmakers who suggest a tweak can fix the problems are putting politics over sound public policy and the safety of Floridians.
Analysis of more than 100 fatal "stand your ground" cases by Tampa Bay Times staff writers have found that nearly 60 percent of people claiming the self-defense legal protection had been previously arrested, and one in three were accused of a violent crime. All told, 119 people who invoked "stand your ground" after killing someone had been arrested 327 times for criminal activities.
BS...sounds more like prosecutoral or judicial negligence to me.

"Prosecutors say it has too often been used to protect gang members and drug dealers in shoot-outs. Although it does not apply if the defendant is committing a crime, the law does not define criminal activity and courts have differed on their interpretations of the statute. As a Times database of nearly 200 "stand your ground" cases shows, simply being a felon in possession of a gun or a drug dealer has not prevented defendants from successfully invoking the law."

The law says that if they are commiting a crime at the time, they can not invoke "stand your ground" defense.
Marauder

Valdez, AK

#5111 Jul 28, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
The pedophile decided Martin was guilty before he got out of the truck.
The pedophile found himself standing between Martin and Martin's home.
What a coincidence!
BS!
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#5112 Jul 28, 2013
Marauder wrote:
<quoted text>
BS...sounds more like prosecutoral or judicial negligence to me.
"Prosecutors say it has too often been used to protect gang members and drug dealers in shoot-outs. Although it does not apply if the defendant is committing a crime, the law does not define criminal activity and courts have differed on their interpretations of the statute. As a Times database of nearly 200 "stand your ground" cases shows, simply being a felon in possession of a gun or a drug dealer has not prevented defendants from successfully invoking the law."
The law says that if they are commiting a crime at the time, they can not invoke "stand your ground" defense.
Whatever they are doing, it works. Here are the decreasing crime statistics in Florida:

http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/Content/FSAC/Menu...

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#5113 Jul 28, 2013
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
It stands to reason that Blacks would invoke it more often than whites since there is more black on black crime.
A lie is still a lie no matter matter how many times you repeat it.
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
Louisiana has the highest Black population of any state in the US.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#5115 Jul 28, 2013
Marauder wrote:
The law says that if they are commiting a crime at the time, they can not invoke "stand your ground" defense.
As a Times database of nearly 200 "stand your ground" cases shows, simply being a felon in possession of a gun or a drug dealer has not prevented defendants from successfully invoking the law."

As a Times database of nearly 200 "stand your ground" cases shows, simply being a felon in possession of a gun or a drug dealer has not prevented defendants from successfully invoking the law."

As a Times database of nearly 200 "stand your ground" cases shows, simply being a felon in possession of a gun or a drug dealer has not prevented defendants from successfully invoking the law."

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#5116 Jul 28, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
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Right, bacause non-violent people NEVER punch someone in the face and then pound their head into a concrete sidewalk.
Someone threaten you, JzzmCheeks, you'd wet your pants.

Other people would attack and fight for their lives.

The pedophile ignored the directive to wait for the real cops to show up. The pedophile decided he show the cops how he would handle a "suspect"- this boy who had every right to be exactly where he was at.

The pedophile tried to detain this boy and the boy stood his ground and your pedophile lost it.
dejavu

Jupiter, FL

#5117 Jul 28, 2013
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
<quoted text>
Because it is a successful protection on law abiding rights.
It stands to reason that Blacks would invoke it more often than whites since there is more black on black crime.
It would be nice if black people could pick off white people and not go to jail like Gorge Zimmerman. Who knows? Maybe that will happen now so you should be very afraid, pfd. lmao

This law was created by the racists in the Fla. legislature for a number of reasons. Never mind there is already a law on the books that if you kill someone in defense of your own life, it is justified. That wasn't good enough for the old white guys in Florida. They needed a plan that would allow them to shoot black people and not face charges so they came up with stand your ground. Now whites can shoot blacks just like George did and there is no punishment. The best part of the law is that many gang members now use it as an excuse to also kill black people so it's a win/win for the racists in Tallahassee and for racists like you who live in fear of the blacks from the time you drag your flat asses out of bed to the time you crawl back in bed holding on to your little gun with one hand and your tiny pecker in the other.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#5118 Jul 28, 2013
dejavu wrote:
<quoted text>It would be nice if black people could pick off white people and not go to jail like Gorge Zimmerman. Who knows? Maybe that will happen now so you should be very afraid, pfd. lmao
This law was created by the racists in the Fla. legislature for a number of reasons. Never mind there is already a law on the books that if you kill someone in defense of your own life, it is justified. That wasn't good enough for the old white guys in Florida. They needed a plan that would allow them to shoot black people and not face charges so they came up with stand your ground. Now whites can shoot blacks just like George did and there is no punishment. The best part of the law is that many gang members now use it as an excuse to also kill black people so it's a win/win for the racists in Tallahassee and for racists like you who live in fear of the blacks from the time you drag your flat asses out of bed to the time you crawl back in bed holding on to your little gun with one hand and your tiny pecker in the other.
Naaaah. See, blacks don't mind being locked up in a cage like whites do, so when they commit crimes, they have little to fear. They don't fear the victim and they don't fear the police.

Along came great laws like CCW and SYG. Now the criminal does have something to fear. It puts those old white racists on an equal or higher playing field. That pesky thing called prison is no longer a fear for law-biding citizens.

You and your kind have had the upper hand for many years. It cost thousands of innocent lives. Now it's our turn.
Marauder

Palmer, AK

#5119 Jul 28, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
As a Times database of nearly 200 "stand your ground" cases shows, simply being a felon in possession of a gun or a drug dealer has not prevented defendants from successfully invoking the law."
As a Times database of nearly 200 "stand your ground" cases shows, simply being a felon in possession of a gun or a drug dealer has not prevented defendants from successfully invoking the law."
As a Times database of nearly 200 "stand your ground" cases shows, simply being a felon in possession of a gun or a drug dealer has not prevented defendants from successfully invoking the law."
I prefer the actual law;

(3)&#8195;A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.

(3)&#8195;A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.

(3)&#8195;A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.
Marauder

Palmer, AK

#5120 Jul 28, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Someone threaten you, JzzmCheeks, you'd wet your pants.
Other people would attack and fight for their lives.
The pedophile ignored the directive to wait for the real cops to show up. The pedophile decided he show the cops how he would handle a "suspect"- this boy who had every right to be exactly where he was at.
The pedophile tried to detain this boy and the boy stood his ground and your pedophile lost it.
"The pedophile ignored the directive to wait for the real cops to show up."

No he didn't...there wasn't a police "directive" or order that he was required to comply with.

"- this boy who had every right to be exactly where he was at."

Right up to the point where his fist met Zimmerman's nose...then he was a criminal.

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