Gun control debate heating up in stat...

Gun control debate heating up in statehouses

There are 2688 comments on the NBC29 story from Dec 21, 2012, titled Gun control debate heating up in statehouses. In it, NBC29 reports that:

By The Associated Press Your daily look at late-breaking news, upcoming events and stories that will be talked about Friday: President Barack Obama says his administration has received an outpouring of support for stricter gun laws following last week's elementary school massacre in Connecticut, telling respondents to an online... President Barack ... (more)

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PHD

United States

#1938 Jan 24, 2013
Pineapple wrote:
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This is coming from someone who has never had his or house being robbed...or has anyone tried to break in your place and try to rape your daughter or spouse? So when you are in that predicament, your thoughts would change where calling 9-1-1, officers will be there in about 5 min depending where you live, whereas a gun, pull it on the spot and take out the punk that tries to violate you or your household...thank you.
No worries, bro. When you walked in on your wife and daughter blowin` that black dude it was totally consentual.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#1939 Jan 24, 2013
Pineapple wrote:
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This is coming from someone who has never had his or house being robbed...or has anyone tried to break in your place and try to rape your daughter or spouse? So when you are in that predicament, your thoughts would change where calling 9-1-1, officers will be there in about 5 min depending where you live, whereas a gun, pull it on the spot and take out the punk that tries to violate you or your household...thank you.
So would you pull out your handgun,shotgun or your AK-47?

Since: Nov 08

Corbin Ky.

#1940 Jan 24, 2013
"Another 'High-Capacity' Magazine Ban Would Not Reduce Crime Rates - Get The Facts
Ammunition News , Gun Rights News ,
Published on Thursday, January 24, 2013

America tried this gun control experiment for ten years. We already know it does not work. Why limit our freedoms again when we know it will not make our communities safer"

Read more at Ammoland.com : http://www.ammoland.com/#ixzz2IvRlrqJ3

What part of, "it doesn't work" don't you people understand?
discordia

United States

#1941 Jan 24, 2013
PHD wrote:
<quoted text>No worries, bro. When you walked in on your wife and daughter blowin` that black dude it was totally consentual.
what color was the dude you blew?
Lawton

Minneapolis, MN

#1942 Jan 24, 2013
The Secret Service uses a 6,000 round per min minimachine gun to defend Obama and family. And Libertards want a 7 round limit on common peoples guns.



PLEASE!!!!
Researcher

Waco, TX

#1943 Jan 24, 2013
wowed wrote:
"Another 'High-Capacity' Magazine Ban Would Not Reduce Crime Rates - Get The Facts
Ammunition News , Gun Rights News ,
Published on Thursday, January 24, 2013
America tried this gun control experiment for ten years. We already know it does not work. Why limit our freedoms again when we know it will not make our communities safer"
Read more at Ammoland.com : http://www.ammoland.com/#ixzz2IvRlrqJ3
What part of, "it doesn't work" don't you people understand?
What part of being a dupe of the gun industry do you not understand?

The percent of people who hunt is the smallest in American history.

If not for the gun industry's success at CREATING FEAR, they would have no way to sell more guns.

Therefore, they keep you doped up with lies.
Lawton

Minneapolis, MN

#1944 Jan 24, 2013
Researcher wrote:
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What part of being a dupe of the gun industry do you not understand?
The percent of people who hunt is the smallest in American history.
If not for the gun industry's success at CREATING FEAR, they would have no way to sell more guns.
Therefore, they keep you doped up with lies.
President Barak Obama's actions on new gun laws have been the BEST advertising for gun makers.

The ONLY creation of "FEAR" has been done by President Obama causing fear of gun ownership rights guarenteed by the Constitution being lost.

Every time Obama flaps his liver lips MILLIONS of guns are sold.

Since: Nov 08

Corbin Ky.

#1945 Jan 24, 2013
Researcher wrote:
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What part of being a dupe of the gun industry do you not understand?
The percent of people who hunt is the smallest in American history.
If not for the gun industry's success at CREATING FEAR, they would have no way to sell more guns.
Therefore, they keep you doped up with lies.
I read somewhere that since the last election, 6.8 million guns have been sold in America. Hunting has nothing to do with the 2nd amendment. Sport shooting is second in revenue to golf so it is big business and we all know that money is what its all about. The only lies are the ones you and your like fall for, the attack on our constitutional rights spurs gun sales. BTW, I fear nothing.

Yep, obama will go down in history as the greatest gun salesman of all time.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#1946 Jan 24, 2013
wowed wrote:
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I read somewhere that since the last election
I read that the NRA has been caught with its pants down spreading the handgun rumors:

Lt. J. Paul Vance, the face of an ongoing Connecticut State Police investigation into worst grade school shooting in U.S. history, on Thursday debunked media and Internet reports that Sandy Hook shooter Adam Lanza killed his victims with handguns and not the Bushmaster XM-15 E2S rifle that is now the focus of a proposed federal assault weapons ban.

All 26 of Lanza's victims were shot with the .223 caliber semi-automatic rifle, said Vance, who bristled at claims to the contrary during an interview with Hearst Connecticut Newspapers.

"It's all these conspiracy theorists that are trying to mucky up the waters," said Vance, the longtime state police spokesman.

Multiple Second Amendment and gun owner websites have attempted to cast doubts on whether the Bushmaster XM-15, a type of AR-15 rifle that is currently legal, was used in the Dec. 14 carnage by Lanza.

Some have cited a Dec. 15 "Today" show video clip from the day after the shooting, in which NBC News Justice Department correspondent Pete Williams said that four handguns were recovered inside Sandy Hook Elementary School and that the Bushmaster rifle was found in the trunk of a car owned by Lanza's slain mother, Nancy Lanza.

"There's no doubt that the rifle was used solely to kill 26 people in that school," Vance said.

Twenty children ages 7 and under and six female educators were killed when Lanza forced his way into Sandy Hook Elementary School and sprayed the building with bullets before turning a gun on himself.

Vance said he made it abundantly clear during his media briefings since the tragedy that Lanza carried out the shooting with the Bushmaster rifle.

"I personally articulated that probably a dozen times in Newtown," Vance said.

The only time Lanza used a handgun at the school was to commit suicide, according to Vance.

The State Police went so far as a to issue a news release on Jan. 18 listing the weapons recovered from inside the school, which included the Bushmaster, a Glock 10-mm handgun and a Sig-Sauer P226 9-mm handgun. An Izhmash Canta-12 12-gauge shotgun was seized from the trunk of the suspect's car.

Sales of AR-15 assault rifles would be banned under the Assault Weapons Ban of 2013, which was introduced Thursday on Capitol Hill and is being sponsored by Connecticut Sens. Richard Blumenthal and Christopher Murphy, as well as Newtown's new Congresswoman Elizabeth Esty. Democratic Rep. Jim Himes, whose district immediately borders Newtown, is also a co-sponsor.

"There's no question that the AR-15 was used, the Bushmaster shot those children with multiple rounds and was instrumental in the massacre," Blumenthal told Hearst Thursday after a Capitol Hill news conference. "Those children and educators might well be alive today if not for the assault weapon and high-capacity magazines."

A message thread entitled "AR-15 was NOT used in Newtown CT Shooting!" appeared Wednesday on the website AR15.com , which accused media outlets such as CNN and host Piers Morgan of running with the story to promote its liberal anti-gun agenda.

"I remember in the initial hours of this shooting, the police said they found the rifle in the car," the anonymous poster wrote. "But the administration-controlled (mainstream media) had a pre-planned attack already waiting, to ban so-called assault weapons and jumped on that line of reporting, knowing it was a lie, which included people like Piers Morgan who said the shooter used an AR-15 that shoots hundreds of rounds per minute, as if it were a machine gun."

Blumenthal had not heard of the chatter.

"The shotgun was in the trunk of the car," Blumenthal said. "The Bushmaster and two pistols were brought into the schoolhouse."
Lawton

Minneapolis, MN

#1948 Jan 24, 2013
"Blumenthal told Hearst Thursday after a Capitol Hill news conference. "Those children and educators might well be alive today if not for the assault weapon and high-capacity magazines."

There is no probability those children and educators would not have been injured by Adam Lanza if not for availability of the assualt rifle. Even if Adam had used a knife or any other weapon in his attack in his frame of mind he would have injured many. Maybe even more than he did.
Pete

Bethel, CT

#1950 Jan 25, 2013
Lawton aka a STUPID FUCKING NIGGER wrote:
The Secret Service uses a 6,000 round per min minimachine gun to defend Obama and family. And Libertards want a 7 round limit on common peoples guns.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =YAZ2qvhJGgUXX
PLEASE!!!!
You need guns to feel safe, you coward fcckface?
just another guy

United States

#1951 Jan 25, 2013
Pete wrote:
<quoted text>You need guns to feel safe, you coward fcckface?
No. A person needs a gun to even the odds with criminals who are armed. Those who especially need help evening the odds are women, handicapped, and elderly.

Or should self defense only be for the young and strong?
Lawton

Minneapolis, MN

#1953 Jan 25, 2013
Pete wrote:
<quoted text>You need guns to feel safe, you coward fcckface?
Does your comment also apply to Barak Obama?

He is CLEARLY protected by guns, rocket launchers, Air Force, Marines, Coast Guard, Secret Service (when sober), etc...
Patriot

Boulder, CO

#1954 Jan 25, 2013
"If gun laws in fact worked, the sponsors of this type of legislation should have no difficulty drawing upon long lists of examples of crime rates reduced by such legislation. That they cannot do so after a century and a half of trying -- that they must sweep under the rug the southern attempts at gun control in the 1870-1910 period, the northeastern attempts in the 1920-1939 period, and the attempts at both Federal and State levels in 1965-1976 -- establishes the repeated, complete, and inevitable failure of gun laws to control serious crime." - Senator Orrin Hatch, Chairman of the Senate Subcomittee on the Constitution (The Making of America, p.695)
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#1955 Jan 25, 2013
Marauder wrote:
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"gun control that protects citizen’s lives and families?"
Like laws against murder..."gun free zones" that aren't...?
Name one "gun control" law that "protects citizen’s lives and families"...?
Thanks for making my point, existing gun laws are useless the NRA spends millions to make sure of that - obviously if the kid from Newtown would not have had access to a military weapon and hundreds of rounds of ammunition it would have never happened!
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#1956 Jan 25, 2013
Patriot wrote:
"If gun laws in fact worked, the sponsors of this type of legislation should have no difficulty drawing upon long lists of examples of crime rates reduced by such legislation. That they cannot do so after a century and a half of trying -- that they must sweep under the rug the southern attempts at gun control in the 1870-1910 period, the northeastern attempts in the 1920-1939 period, and the attempts at both Federal and State levels in 1965-1976 -- establishes the repeated, complete, and inevitable failure of gun laws to control serious crime." - Senator Orrin Hatch, Chairman of the Senate Subcomittee on the Constitution (The Making of America, p.695)
What an idiot – it’s the worst f-ing example one can possibly think of! Orrin Hatch receives huge amounts of money from the NRA to blurt out stupid idiotic BS like that! The NRA is holding us all hostage to their absolutist view of guns for everyone and the bigger the better. The NRA and its deadly style of politics that basically employs the principles of ‘the Shock Doctrine’ of creating more and more fear to enable the power grabbers to get elected to continue their plutocratic plunder of our democracy. Fear is an essential tactic in order to herd the masses into voting for the plutocrats.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#1957 Jan 25, 2013
Spocko wrote:
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Thanks for making my point, existing gun laws are useless the NRA spends millions to make sure of that - obviously if the kid from Newtown would not have had access to a military weapon and hundreds of rounds of ammunition it would have never happened!
go to Mexico and look at what the strict gun control laws there have done to Mexican Society which is proof what the Democrats like Dianne Feinstein along with Biden want to see even more Newtown Massacres across the country on a larger scale and Mexico is proof of it since since it already has been implemented and proved to be a failure.

As President Obama announced 23 executive actions pertaining to gun ownership in the U.S., violent crime levels in some Latin American countries are at almost epidemic levels despite strict gun control laws in places like Mexico and Venezuela.

The Venezuelan capital of Caracas saw over 3,400 murders last year and a Mexican research group, the Citizen's Council for Public Security and Justice, ranked five of its country’s cities among the top 10 most violent in the world.

“Prohibition, by and large, doesn’t work. Or when it does work, only law-abiding citizens obey the law,” said professor Bob Cottrol of George Washington University Law School.“When guns are outlawed, only outlaws have guns.”

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http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2013/01...

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#1958 Jan 25, 2013
just another guy wrote:
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No. A person needs a gun to even the odds with criminals who are armed.
The criminals are armed because you won't lock up your guns, azzwipe.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#1959 Jan 25, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>go to Mexico
No need to go to Mexico.

Look at the 32,000 people who die in the USA.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#1960 Jan 25, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
“Prohibition, by and large, doesn’t work.
Sure it does.

How many people were killed in the USA by machine guns?

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