Gun control debate heating up in stat...

Gun control debate heating up in statehouses

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By The Associated Press Your daily look at late-breaking news, upcoming events and stories that will be talked about Friday: President Barack Obama says his administration has received an outpouring of support for stricter gun laws following last week's elementary school massacre in Connecticut, telling respondents to an online... President Barack ... (more)

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#690 Jan 5, 2013
In the real world:

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Big push in new Congress for gun control

By Jackie Kucinich - USA TODAY
Posted : Friday Jan 4, 2013 7:46:42 EST

WASHINGTON — Supporters of tighter federal gun restrictions moved quickly Thursday, the first day of the new Congress, introducing bills in the wake of last month’s deadly mass shooting in Newtown, Conn., that will set up a long and contentious fight over the shape of the nation’s gun laws.

Democratic Reps. Carolyn McCarthy of New York and Diana DeGette of Colorado refiled the bill they had promoted in earlier Congresses and said they hoped the environment for gun laws would improve in the wake of the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School that killed 20 students and six adults Dec. 14. The bill would ban high-capacity ammunition magazines.

“These devices are used to kill as many people as possible in the shortest amount of time possible, and we owe it to innocent Americans everywhere to keep them out of the hands of dangerous people,” McCarthy said.“We don’t even allow hunters to use them — something’s deeply wrong if we’re protecting game more than we’re protecting innocent human beings.”

Despite a series of highly visible mass shootings in malls, on college campuses, at a movie theater and at workplaces, Congress has not passed any significant gun-related regulations since 2007. Since Newtown, several pro-gun legislators, such as Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., have called for greater restrictions.

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#691 Jan 5, 2013
Marauder wrote:
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It's rather enlightening how the law abiding gun owners hold no death or violence wish to those that are anti-gun...they just want to be left alone...
What a shame the gun owners manage to kill 32,000 others with the guns including those that do not own guns.

If they shot only themselves do you think people would care?

I think not.

Sadly- even though many do end up using these guns they bought (they say) to 'protect the family' to blow their own brains out, the guns end up all too often in the hands of their children, or in the hands of the husband/boyfriend who has to kill his wife (and sometimes wife and children) first.

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SARAH MERVOSH
Staff Writer
[email protected]

Published: 30 December 2012 11:24 PM

A Denton County man shot his wife before fatally shooting himself in an attempted murder-suicide late Saturday, the sheriff’s office said.

Deputies were dispatched to Providence Village, a housing community, at 11:17 p.m. Saturday after a hang-up 911 call. Deputies heard shots when they arrived, said Denton County sheriff’s spokesman Tom Reedy.

Inside a home in the 1300 block of Oakcrest Drive, deputies found a 48-year-old woman who had been shot in the stomach. She was flown to Parkland Memorial Hospital in Dallas, where she underwent surgery. She was in the hospital’s Surgical Intensive Care Unit Sunday evening.

Her 50-year-old husband was dead in the home. After shooting his wife, authorities said, he shot himself with a handgun.

The woman’s 23-year-old special-needs daughter was home but was uninjured. She was placed in the care of a family member, Reedy said.

The attempted murder-suicide was the second in Providence Village in less than two months.

On Nov. 5, Denton County sheriff’s deputies discovered the bodies of 29-year-old Nelson Rafael Rodriguez-Doran and 27-year-old Christina Marie Allen when they responded to a welfare concern at a house in the 10200 block of Lakeview Drive. Investigators think Rodriguez-Doran shot Allen multiple times, including once in the head, with a semiautomatic pistol before shooting himself in the head.

Allen had a 10-year-old son, who was not home. Authorities said family members are caring for the boy.

Neighbors said Rodriguez-Doran had recently returned from his second tour of duty in Afghanistan. The family had lived in the house just a few weeks.

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#692 Jan 5, 2013
Laws dont work anyway wrote:
RIP kids and staff of Sandy Hook ES,
Thanks for putting the assault weapon in the killer's hands, NRA!
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#693 Jan 5, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Gosh, it seems the Supreme Co9urt of the United States you are a liar.
Wipe your chin, boy, you have dribbles...
Hmm but the Constitution (which is the HIGHEST law of the land ) says it's illegal. In fact many of these illegal gun control laws are being struck down one by one. Give us time we will get them all before long.
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#694 Jan 5, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Thanks for putting the assault weapon in the killer's hands, NRA!
Does the NRA build guns? Does the NRA issue guns? Do you ever read what you write? Are you really as stupid as you make yourself out to be?

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#695 Jan 5, 2013
Tray wrote:
<quoted text> Hmm but the Constitution (which is the HIGHEST law of the land ) says it's illegal.
It doesn't.

I have the Supreme Court on my side.

I see you have a NRA pamphlet...

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I see we have our weekly mass murder, do you remember when I predicted **YESTERDAY* that we would have another in a week or two?

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Four dead inside Aurora home including gunman shot by police
Posted: 01/05/2013 08:41:30 AM MST
Updated: 01/05/2013 09:32:51 AM MST
By Kirk Mitchell
The Denver Post

Four people were killed this morning including a gunman who held police at bay for several hours in an Aurora townhome.

Aurora SWAT team members shot the gunman, who has not been identified.

Police had surrounded a townhome where a man fired gunshots early Saturday morning and then barricaded his home on the 16000 block of East Ithaca Place near Buckley Road and Hampden Avenue.

Neighbors called 911 at 3 a.m. reporting shots fired.

Police evacuated homes and sent emergency phone notifications.

Hampden Avenue was shut down in both directions from Kalispell Street to Laredo Street.
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#696 Jan 5, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Thanks for putting the assault weapon in the killer's hands, NRA!
What company sells "assault weapons"? I can't find a one that list's an "assault weapon" in their catalog. I can't find even one law enforcement agency that list an "assault weapon" in their inventory (most have a modern sporting rifle or tactical rifle) but no assault weapons. Your lies to distract from the truth will be your undoing.

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#697 Jan 5, 2013
Tray wrote:
<quoted text> Does the NRA build guns?
The NRA gives Congress money to fight gun control legislation and to weaken laws that exist.

The NRA fights to allow gun gnutters to carry weapons- such as the AR-15- into public schools.

The NRA fights background checks.

The NRA fights bans on large capacity magazines.

The majority of Americans are fed up.

Things will change soon.
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#698 Jan 5, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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The NRA gives Congress money to fight gun control legislation and to weaken laws that exist.
The NRA fights to allow gun gnutters to carry weapons- such as the AR-15- into public schools.
The NRA fights background checks.
The NRA fights bans on large capacity magazines.
The majority of Americans are fed up.
Things will change soon.
Where did these "laws" come from? Did the Brady bunch lobby congress to get these none existent laws passed? How many of these killers care what the law or NRA thinks about them bringing guns into schools? The same "background checks" that were promised to stop school shootings in the first place? FAIL. In every shooting the killer had to reload several times and carried more than one gun so how is the capacity involved? Oh more bull crap to distract. Gun sales are at record highs, CCP are at record highs, many gun companies have stopped taking orders because they can't fill all they have now. Looks like more Americans support owning guns. Are you a shut in that never gets out? Didn't learn from the NBC failure to twist the truth? Keep selling but NOBODIES BUYING.

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#699 Jan 5, 2013
Tray wrote:
How many of these killers care what the law or NRA thinks about them bringing guns into schools?
The assault weapon the killer had in his hands was a gift from the NRA.

Congress will take this gift away.

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#700 Jan 5, 2013
Tray wrote:
< What company sells "assault weapons"?
~stomp stomp stomp~

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#701 Jan 5, 2013
Tray wrote:
The same "background checks" that were promised to stop school shootings in the first place?
No background check ever promised to stop all killings.

Ever.

What Americans will want from the assault weapons ban will be: it will stop some of them.

They will look at these weapons for what they are: toys, for tiny-dicked cowards like you used to get a stiffy that has not a single positive thing for society that in the end costs us a Sandy Hook every couple years.

What Americans can be sure of is: if the killer's mother did not have this assault weapon, those children and those teachers would be alive today.

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#702 Jan 5, 2013
Tray wrote:
In every shooting the killer had to reload several times
And yet it seems the police insist they would rather face someone with a weapon that had to be reloaded rather than something that had 150 rounds in it.

And liar that you are: you deny it it.

It is what America can expect from you- your your fellow gun gnutters, you pathetic lying bych.
Laws dont matter

United States

#703 Jan 5, 2013
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In the real world:
Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder rejected a bill Tuesday that would have allowed people who receive special training to carry concealed firearms into formerly gun-free zones like churches and school buildings.
Michigan's legislature passed the concealed carry measure, Senate Bill 59, last Thursday.
Gov. Snyder said in a release sent to The Huffington Post that last Friday's shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary led to a thorough review of the bill. Instead, he said he calls for a "more comprehensive review of issues relating to gun violence." He has now ordered a multi-departmental assessment of the state’s services and needs regarding at-risk children.
“This type of violence often leaves society with more questions than answers,” Snyder said in the release.“The reasons for such appalling acts usually are numerous and complex. With that in mind, we must consider legislation like SB 59 in a holistic manner."
The legislation would have allowed those with Concealed Pistol Licenses who have taken eight hours of additional training to bring firearms into schools, day care centers, sports arenas, bars, places of worship, hospitals, dormitories and large entertainment facilities.
Private-property owners and public universities would have been given an opportunity to prohibit the weapons, but public schools would not have had that option.
“While we must vigilantly protect the rights of law-abiding firearm owners, we also must ensure the right of designated public entities to exercise their best discretion in matters of safety and security,” said Gov. Snyder in a statement sent to The Huffington Post.“These public venues need clear legal authority to ban firearms on their premises if they see fit to do so.”
Sen. Mike Green, R-Mayvill, who sponsored the bill, told the Detroit News shortly before the veto that the governor would refuse to sign the bill because of the language regarding guns in public schools. Green said he refused to change the language to allow public schools and municipalities to still ban concealed weapons, for fear that it could be used to overturn the state's firearms preemption law that prohibits local firearms laws from trumping state laws and regulations," the Detroit News said.
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In the "real world" the next Adam Lanza will know he can enter a school with no concern that anyone in the school will be able to stop him.

The school is a gun free zone, shoot it up!!
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#704 Jan 5, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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No background check ever promised to stop all killings.
Ever.
What Americans will want from the assault weapons ban will be: it will stop some of them.
They will look at these weapons for what they are: toys, for tiny-dicked cowards like you used to get a stiffy that has not a single positive thing for society that in the end costs us a Sandy Hook every couple years.
What Americans can be sure of is: if the killer's mother did not have this assault weapon, those children and those teachers would be alive today.
Ban all guns and guess who will still have killing weapons?

Remember WACO, the US Government directed by Bill Clinton and Janst Reno KILLED 26 kids and 76 adults by using a MILITARY TANK!!!

But it's OK for the Government to KILL kids because why?
Laws dont work anyway

United States

#705 Jan 5, 2013
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>LOL, you're saying that Jesus hates the mentally handicapped?
Is there a hell?

Adam Lanza knows.

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#706 Jan 5, 2013
The state 'big government' cowards need to make the problem, too big to fail, by defining the problem as something that the people should not be trusted to handle.
Big Government Solutions always fail. Next they will ask that the United Nations 'handle it.'

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#707 Jan 5, 2013
Laws dont matter wrote:
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Ban all guns and guess who will still have killing weapons?
Ban gun gnutters from buying assault weapons and from thinking they have a right to carry them where ever they please.

Baby - bathwater.
Laws dont work anyway

United States

#708 Jan 5, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Ban gun gnutters from buying assault weapons and from thinking they have a right to carry them where ever they please.
Baby - bathwater.
And the next Adam Lanza will use poisen, a bomb, fire, vehicle, knife, club, box cutter, etc....

Why is it so difficult for you to understand a mentally disturbed person will find a weapon?

That's not to say every effort should be made to keep dangerous weapons away from the mentally ill, that should be mandatory and is common sense.
Laws dont work anyway

United States

#709 Jan 5, 2013
RayOne wrote:
The state 'big government' cowards need to make the problem, too big to fail, by defining the problem as something that the people should not be trusted to handle.
Big Government Solutions always fail. Next they will ask that the United Nations 'handle it.'
Correct, the UN intervention will occur.

Ever notice the President Obama always has a gold background when he speaks?

Gold is used by the UN also, see the link?

The Obama UN linkage will be more evident in his current term, you watch.

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