Gun control debate heating up in stat...

Gun control debate heating up in statehouses

There are 2688 comments on the NBC29 story from Dec 21, 2012, titled Gun control debate heating up in statehouses. In it, NBC29 reports that:

By The Associated Press Your daily look at late-breaking news, upcoming events and stories that will be talked about Friday: President Barack Obama says his administration has received an outpouring of support for stricter gun laws following last week's elementary school massacre in Connecticut, telling respondents to an online... President Barack ... (more)

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AnnAgain

Oakland, CA

#2800 Feb 8, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
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The NRA has always been a single issue organization. I’ve already decided if Feinstein’s bill passes I will donate $10K to their effort to punish those that voted in favor.
No they have not ...!!!!!!!
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#2801 Feb 8, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
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The NRA has always been a single issue organization. I’ve already decided if Feinstein’s bill passes I will donate $10K to their effort to punish those that voted in favor.
It just shows how f-ing ignorant and fanatical you gun-a-holics are, the NRA never was about the second amendment until the "new' leadership appeared in the 60s! The original idea of the NRA was to train union soldiers; today some people consider it a terrorist organization insuring that mass murderers can properly equip themselves!!!!!!!! The first major gun control legislation in the United States had NRA support as well as the Gun Control Act of 1968. The two acts created a system to license gun dealers and imposed taxes on the private ownership of machine guns.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#2807 Feb 8, 2013
Libs suck wrote:
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Interfere with carters what? LMFAOROTF..... 444 days of begging you mean.
Federal Reserve has more control of the US Economy than people think.
rider

Gwinn, MI

#2808 Feb 8, 2013
rider

Gwinn, MI

#2809 Feb 8, 2013
Dangerous Christian Nutjobs: In 1975, Bill Bright, founder of Campus Crusade, and Loren Cunningham, founder of Youth With a Mission, had lunch together in Colorado. God simultaneously gave each of them a message to give to the other. That message was that if we are to impact any nation for Jesus Christ, then we would have to affect the seven spheres of society that are the pillars of any society. These seven pillars are business, government, media, arts and entertainment, education, the family and religion. About a month later the Lord showed Francis Schaeffer the same thing. "

Lance Wallnau gives a short presentation explaining the 7M Mandate

The "C Street House" Connection:

Owned by a group touting plans for Christian world control. Founder of Youth With a Mission, Loren Cunningham, whose organization owns the house where GOP Senators enjoy cheap rent, espouses a doctrine known as the "Seven Mountains Mandate" in which believers seek to gain world control, by gaining influence over seven key sectors of society: religion, government, media, education, arts and entertainment, family, and business.

The Palin Connection:

Youth With a Mission and Campus Crusade For Christ each boast yearly budgets to rival or exceed those of James Dobson's Focus On The Family and the founders of the two organizations have been billed, along with the late theocratic theologian Francis Schaeffer, as the original visionaries who conceived of the Seven Mountains Mandate.
http://www.selectsmart.com/DISCUSS/read.php...
rider

Gwinn, MI

#2810 Feb 8, 2013
Have you heard of the 7 mountains? This is Dominionism at its absolute best.‘Neo-Calvinism’ and ‘Sphere Sovereignty’ has entered the evangelical world and the re-think conference has a massive agenda to reclaim the 7 mountains to overtake the world and have complete dominion over it. Make no mistakes about it, it is a man made orchestrated plan, here is part of a letter written by Peter Wagner sent to Global Harvest [emphasis mine]…

I have been sharing the development of our obedience to this word with you since April.Craig Davis was the one who pointed the way toward reorganizing under “Global Apostolic Network”( GAN ), thereby bringing together the bits and pieces we had been serving up to now. I first sent you a chart with 7 components of GAN and later another chart with 9.Then Lance Wallnau came on the scene and brought an integrating template for GAN which we call the 7-M Mandate, based on Lance’s 7 mountains which are the seven molders of culture (religion, family, education, media, arts & entertainment, government, and business).

http://livingjourney.wordpress.com/2007/12/10...
rider

Gwinn, MI

#2811 Feb 8, 2013
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rider

Gwinn, MI

#2814 Feb 8, 2013
THE JOHN BIRCH SOCIETY

http://watch.pair.com/jbs-cnp.html
rider

Gwinn, MI

#2815 Feb 8, 2013
The Nazis, the Vatican and the CIA [http://www.mosquitonet.com/~p rewett/caqsmom25.1.html] has been posted on the website of John Prewett, whose beliefs we definitely do not agree with. However, Part 3 discloses the role of the Knights of Malta, the infamous Masonic P2 Lodge with the Nazis and subsequent cover-up by Pope Paul VI, successor to Pope John XXIII.

"Freemasonry generally purports to be hostile to Catholicism, and conversely, the Vatican has at various times forbidden Catholics to join Masonic organizations. Nevertheless, in December of 1969 an exclusive meeting was held in the Rome office of Count Umberto Ortolani, the Ambassador of the Order of Malta to Uruguay, who has been called "the brains" behind the fascist P-2 Masonic Lodge, which had been established in the mid-1960s.20 In addition to Ortolani, the meeting included only Licio Gelli, Roberto Calvi, and Michele Sindona.[21. Larry Gurwin, The Calvi Affair (London: Pan Books, 1984), p.15]

"Gelli had fought for Franco (who was himself a Bailiff Grand Cross of SMOM) with Mussolini's troops during the Spanish Civil War. He was a committed fascist during WW II and at the end of the war was wanted by the partisans for collaborating with the Nazis. After the war he developed extensive interests in Latin America where he became close friends with the Argentinean dictator Juan Peron; he was also the Grand Master of P-2.[22. Gelli had chartered the plane which brought Peron back to Argentina in 1972 and was an honored guest at his inauguration; shortly thereafter Lopez Rega, Peron's Minister of Social Welfare who ran the Argentine death squads and who was an astrologer and mystic, joined P-2]

"Calvi had fought on the Eastern front during the war and was decorated by the Nazis. At the time of the 1969 meeting he was a senior officer at Banco Ambrosiano.

http://www.seekgod.ca/legacy.htm
rider

Gwinn, MI

#2816 Feb 8, 2013
CNP members are found in Christian organizations encompassing James Dobson's Focus on the Family, Bill Bright's Campus Crusade for Christ and it's many branches, Robert Weiner's Maranatha shepherding group, Gideons, Youth for Christ, World Vision, Wycliffe Bible Translators, Billy Graham Evangelical Assoc., Intercessors for America, International Charismatic Bible Ministries, National Evangelical Assoc., National Religious Broadcasters Assoc., Promise Keepers and many more. The potential spiritual impact of this organization, which claims educational status, could be unparalleled.

While many involved in the CNP have denied political activity in their respective organizations, the role of the CNP appears to be that of a policy and funding conduit for the Religious Right projects, both political and religious. Others would suggest they are merely a conservative group of individuals who get together to share ideas, network and hear "exciting speakers." Many non-Christians and deceived Christians would view many involved as representative of born-again Christians. However, one of the intents of the CNP seems to be that of appearing to be a mouthpiece of true Believers, which cannot be. Many are simply not Christian and others would make a claim, rather, to being conservative, holding 'traditional values' and family orientated. Many would also propagate the idea of transforming the United States back to it's 'godly' heritage, to which there is no supporting Scripture.

http://www.seekgod.ca/cnp.htm
rider

Gwinn, MI

#2817 Feb 8, 2013
Ron Paul JBS and Catholic Propaganda ~Full Video

Ron Paul Letter to Pope John Paul II

Ron Paul appears in the above Anti-United Nations video often throughout the original uncut version which shows me Ron Paul is just playing the role. Why do I say that? Because the Pope loves the UN and Ron Paul publically praised the Pope, calling him a "Pro-Life figure" plus there are many more connections. Immediately you can see things don't seem to add up.

"Cornelia Ferreira" who appeared in the above anti-UN vid was a columnist at that time for "Catholic Family" news has become a huge worker/agent for the Vatican. Google her name with the quotes. Also another renowned Catholic Priest, Father Gruner appears in the video as well which really shows another face to the catholic church when you consider the following information on this web page.

John Birch Society meeting featuring Ron Paul ~Video

Pope Turning over his Papal Tiara to the United Nations Large photo of pope Paul VI in St. Peter's in the Vatican, Rome, Italy. Paul 6 was photographed discarding his coronation tiara on Friday, November 13, 1964.

Paul VI turned over his external symbol of his office of pope to the United Nations, in effect, resigning as a pope and acknowledging, in a symbolic way, that he gave the powers of the papacy to the U.N.!


http://www.spirituallysmart.com/ron_paul.html

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#2819 Feb 8, 2013
Spocko wrote:
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It just shows how f-ing ignorant and fanatical you gun-a-holics are, the NRA never was about the second amendment until the "new' leadership appeared in the 60s! The original idea of the NRA was to train union soldiers; today some people consider it a terrorist organization insuring that mass murderers can properly equip themselves!!!!!!!! The first major gun control legislation in the United States had NRA support as well as the Gun Control Act of 1968. The two acts created a system to license gun dealers and imposed taxes on the private ownership of machine guns.
The NRA has always been about firearms. The name of the organization just might be a clue for one as clueless as you.

The NRA has indeed compromised in the past. Their membership spoke loudly about those compromises.

When the government attempts to circumvent the second amendment do you think an organization with the name National Rifle Association would sit idly by? Want a better story? Learn about the founding of the NRA-ILA.

You rant, you rave and in the end I still have over 100 firearms. What are you going to do about it? You’re afraid of people with guns. Embrace your cowardice and you’ll feel better.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#2820 Feb 8, 2013
rider wrote:
Ron Paul JBS and Catholic Propaganda ~Full Video
Ron Paul Letter to Pope John Paul II
Ron Paul appears in the above Anti-United Nations video often throughout the original uncut version which shows me Ron Paul is just playing the role. Why do I say that? Because the Pope loves the UN and Ron Paul publically praised the Pope, calling him a "Pro-Life figure" plus there are many more connections. Immediately you can see things don't seem to add up.
"Cornelia Ferreira" who appeared in the above anti-UN vid was a columnist at that time for "Catholic Family" news has become a huge worker/agent for the Vatican. Google her name with the quotes. Also another renowned Catholic Priest, Father Gruner appears in the video as well which really shows another face to the catholic church when you consider the following information on this web page.
John Birch Society meeting featuring Ron Paul ~Video
Pope Turning over his Papal Tiara to the United Nations Large photo of pope Paul VI in St. Peter's in the Vatican, Rome, Italy. Paul 6 was photographed discarding his coronation tiara on Friday, November 13, 1964.
Paul VI turned over his external symbol of his office of pope to the United Nations, in effect, resigning as a pope and acknowledging, in a symbolic way, that he gave the powers of the papacy to the U.N.!
http://www.spirituallysmart.com/ron_paul.html
Seems like you have a problem with religion. Unlike you, I’m a polite atheist.

Religion helps some people. Some do indeed distort it for their own gain. You would blame all. That makes you a fool.
rider

Gwinn, MI

#2821 Feb 8, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
<quoted text>
Seems like you have a problem with religion. Unlike you, I’m a polite atheist.
Religion helps some people. Some do indeed distort it for their own gain. You would blame all. That makes you a fool.
I don't blame all except in the sense most religious people are blinded and automatically assume those sharing thier same faith connot be corrupt.
rider

Gwinn, MI

#2822 Feb 8, 2013
George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography
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By Webster Griffin Tarpley and Anton Chaitkin

Table of Contents
Introduction — American Caligula
http://tarpley.net/online-books/george-bush-t...
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#2823 Feb 8, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
<quoted text>
The NRA has always been about firearms.
You da man - pure genius!:-/
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#2824 Feb 8, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
<quoted text>
An educated person would simply look at the bill. It’s public record.
http://tinyurl.com/3s5b4ye


An "educated" person would answer the question.

If teabaggers were so concerned about "pork" in the bill, why didn't they expose who put the crap in the bill?

"Looking" at the bill gives you the information on the bill but doesn't give you who put the riders ATTACHED to the bill.

Instead, teabaggers whine and say NO.

To: Whatever.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#2826 Feb 9, 2013
rider wrote:
<quoted text> I don't blame all except in the sense most religious people are blinded and automatically assume those sharing thier same faith connot be corrupt.
You don’t blame all except? Come on, that’s unfair. Most only follow the convenient portions of their religions and many use their religion as a form of fellowship. I’ve never met someone that believes anyone following their faith can’t be corrupt.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#2827 Feb 9, 2013
Spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
You da man - pure genius!:-/
Nice, take a single sentence out of context rather than reply to the full text. You’re pure idiocy.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#2828 Feb 9, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
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An "educated" person would answer the question.
If teabaggers were so concerned about "pork" in the bill, why didn't they expose who put the crap in the bill?
"Looking" at the bill gives you the information on the bill but doesn't give you who put the riders ATTACHED to the bill.
Instead, teabaggers whine and say NO.
To: Whatever.
In typical fashion an occupier wants someone else to do the work for them. I gave you a link which would allow you to review all the pork. Rather than learn, you chose to remain ignorant.

It doesn’t say who put the pork in? Really? Did you bother to look at the amendments? That’s where the changes are and who added the changes. In all, 254 amendments to the Sandy Relief Bill.

1. H.AMDT.11 to H.R.1 Amendment sought to reduce by $18,750,000 the operations and maintenance defense-wide account and direct the funds to the spending reduction account.
Sponsor: Rep Flake, Jeff [AZ-6](introduced 2/15/2011) Cosponsors (None)
Latest Major Action: 2/15/2011 House amendment not agreed to. Status: On agreeing to the Flake amendment (A001) Failed by recorded vote: 207 - 223 (Roll no. 41).

2. H.AMDT.12 to H.R.1 Amendment sought to eliminate all funding for the Innovative Research Fund.
Sponsor: Rep Pompeo, Mike [KS-4](introduced 2/15/2011) Cosponsors (None)
Latest Major Action: 2/15/2011 House amendment not agreed to. Status: On agreeing to the Pompeo amendment (A002) Failed by recorded vote: 72 - 358 (Roll no. 42).

3. H.AMDT.13 to H.R.1 Amendment sought to reduce the funding for the remainder of FY 2011 for the Air Force and Navy's aircraft procurement accounts by cutting funding for the V-22 by $415,083,000.
Sponsor: Rep Gutierrez, Luis V.[IL-4](introduced 2/15/2011) Cosponsors (None)
Latest Major Action: 2/15/2011 House amendment not agreed to. Status: On agreeing to the Gutierrez amendment (A003) Failed by recorded vote: 105 - 326 (Roll no. 43).

You’re correct, it doesn’t show who added the pork. What a fool you are.

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