The next gun risk, courtesy of Congress?

The next gun risk, courtesy of Congress?

There are 17 comments on the Star Tribune story from Sep 24, 2011, titled The next gun risk, courtesy of Congress?. In it, Star Tribune reports that:

Here in Chaska, Minn., where I have been a police officer since 1976 and chief of police since 2000, we do not see much gun crime.

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“Constitutionist/ SAF”

Since: Mar 08

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#1 Sep 24, 2011
Police as people who keep us safe ? I disagree completely.

Most of them will say they support the 2nd amendment, but when a gun owner displays a gun in any manner, the police are very quick to arrest. My opinion, most cops are antigun but will say they support the 2nd amendment. Most cops are liars too. As a gun owner I would never trust them. I would certainly never give them any form of recognition.

The same for the military.

Never forget, it was police AND military that went door to door at New Orleans (after Katrina) searching and confiscating guns (making us less safe), and even arrested gun owners.

... Many of us are not police , and many of us hate them. Too many pigs have taken guns from peaceful people. The ...[redacted] slaps many of us in the face by honoring cops. Also, there are thousands of Americans who justifiaby oppose the govt's war on drugs. Police are using that war as an excuse to ignore posse comitatus and train and arm in a military fashion. If the ... respects the Constitution then they should expect the police to do the same.

Police don't keep us safe, nor do they serve and protect the public. Rather they serve and protect their employer (govt) and then themselves from the public. The existence of large police depts allow govts to ignore the 2nd amendment and create and enforce gun control laws. Gun bans and restrictions make all of us less safe. An armed society is always a safer society, we could easily exist without police. Today more than ever the police make it easier for govt to bully and over-tax us. Who guards the mayors and the governors ? And who do they guard mayors and governors from (they guard those politicians from us, we the people)? Do you know of a gun owner who would kill a mayor or a governor ? Do you know of a gun owner who wants to kill a politician ? If what politicians do is so good then why would anyone want to harm them.

The ... is honoring the very thing that allows for the very thing the ... is paid to prevent - gun control. Every chief cop in the country speaks out against guns, yet the ... is going to honor them (average people). Police will lie and say the rank and file support the 2nd amendment. They blame the chief cop for gun control .... Yet every cop will quickly say some gun controls are neccesary, especially the controls that make it safer for cops (and ultimately make us less safe from cops).

Rank and File police are entitled by law to lifetime conceal/carry privileges while Illinoisans are prevented from carrying loaded guns by those very police.

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“Constitutionist/ SAF”

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#2 Sep 25, 2011
...page 2:

In Illinois, police lobbied extensivley for politicians to pass window tint law for automobiles. They did so to make it safer for police. Fortunately they lost. Police are now so powerful, they compel politicians to create laws that force us to do things that make police safe (from us). Because of driver conduct laws during traffic stops, one false move by a driver and a cop can justifiably shoot him. And gun control has been a winner for police in Illinois. Reading the gun laws allows the reader to easily see the gun laws originate in the minds of police. It is clearly oxymoronic for the ... to honor police. If not for London police, the govt could never outlaw self defense in England. It was coming to Amerika (if not for the NRA and other gun rights organizations).



FIVE New York City police unions supported Bloomberg for mayor. Hardline gun rights supporter Ted Nugent is a deputy because of his attitude towards drugs, and former Texas Ranger Joaquin Jackson was an outspoken supporter of controlling military styled rifles.

America is becoming a police state. Every cop has a famiy member who fully supports him. For every cop there are cop family members, relatives, friends, and cop collaborators (people who will do anything a cop tells them to do). On top of that, every twenty years a new generation of all that is spawned. After a cop retires, after only twenty years, they continue to do police work by helping active cops. In some cases the active cops guard the retired cops from cop-haters (I've lived next door to a cop for over thirteen years now.)

After a cop retires (after only 20 years) he earns more money than most blue-collar workers do working a fifty hour week. He does not have to work anymore, and he is only 40-50 years old.

The newsmedia always heroizes average cops. All the attention to average people (pigs) makes police actually think they're superior to the rest of us. The truth is, police are destroying America by destroying our privacy, our freedom, and our safety from them AND from others.

If police are so good for us, then why do they need to wear camoflaged uniforms, bullet resistant vests, gun gloves, face masks, and military rifles (while many of them want all of us unarmed)? Who wants to kill them ?
Annoying Hmong Boy

Saint Paul, MN

#3 Sep 25, 2011
Scott Knight is chief of police in Chaska.

MAYBE YOU SHOULD STAY THE F OUT OF POLITICS.

Explain to me why a police officer in many cities are issued as STANDARD equipment a Barrett .50 Caliber?

Do you really need to blow an elephant in half at a mile away? or does the para-military thing fall into the 24 hour a day cop show, wanna be a soldier, bully power monger, cowboy routine.

First you have to get through the stupid wall of silence called DISPATCH which is like running through a dark hallway filled with marbles.

When seconds counts don't call a cop, pick up your tactical 12 gauge and get the job done. Baseball bats, and golf clubs just don't cut it when home invasion is one of preferred crimes these days.

I would always feel better knowing that 2 or 10 people are carrying. Screw the cops. It's easier to carry a gun than a cop anyway.

This Chaska cop is just another LYING POS. You get that rap because we all know your well honed liars, part of the training, and then we are suppose to believe you switch to MR TRUTH when it is time to make a report or called a witness.

BS
Jakeco

Bailey, CO

#4 Sep 25, 2011
Scott Knight is nothing but a wuss. If you can't take the heat, then get out of the kitchen, and start collecting your tax payer funded mega- retirement. there are more than enough laws right now to keep gun's out of the hands of criminals. If a POS from Florida had a CCP, then someone screwed up somewhere. And even then, that alone had nothing to do with the actual murder. Additional gun laws do nothing but put additional restrictions on peaceful citizens who are not a threat in the first place. But the lawmakers and police know that already.
sharkey

Louisville, KY

#5 Sep 26, 2011
Annoying Hmong Boy wrote:
Scott Knight is chief of police in Chaska.
MAYBE YOU SHOULD STAY THE F OUT OF POLITICS.
Politics IS his job. Police chief is a political position, not a competency position.

“Constitutionist/ SAF”

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#6 Sep 26, 2011
sharkey wrote:
Politics IS his job. Police chief is a political position, not a competency position.
Was he elected or appointed, rather than "hired" ?

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Is sharkey attempting to claim most pigs are pro gun ?

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After reading the Chief Pig's op/ed does anyone doubt the Pigs will incite gun owners to get them to kill people ?

“Constitutionist/ SAF”

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#7 Sep 29, 2011
Scott Knight would ignore any law to do things to gun owners to keep them disarmed. He thinks only Pigs should be armed.

Read his op/ed and ask yourself if he stole a page from Paul Helmke.

Antigun police are always inciting gun owners to kill people. They know it helps justify more gun control laws.

The 2nd amendment prohibits govt from regulating guns.
jack

Saint Paul, MN

#8 Sep 29, 2011
That guy sounds like a piece of work, police have the least firearms training around, know the least about firearms and are the ones who should be the last to be trusted with firearms.
Raptor

Saint Paul, MN

#9 Oct 23, 2011
An armed society is a polite society......
ARMED CITIZEN

Saint Paul, MN

#10 Oct 23, 2011
The only good cop is a dead cop, jerry vick is proof of that!
crooked cops

Saint Paul, MN

#11 Oct 23, 2011
ARMED CITIZEN wrote:
The only good cop is a dead cop, jerry vick is proof of that!
Agreed Vick was the biggest POS cop in St.Paul and yet they treated him like a hero. Hero of what he was as crooked as they come and I for one is glad he's Dead. He deservered it and Harry was railroaded in court! What f'ing judge takes time to console the widow of a crooked cop during the case, unbelievable. Harry Evans did us all a favor by killing Vick I would like to shake his hand!!!!!!
ARMED CITIZEN

Saint Paul, MN

#12 Oct 23, 2011
Just let a cop try and take my gun, go ahead I wish they would try. They will get a hot piece of metal in the head, because they are not the only ones who practice shooting, and it be best for them to remember that 3 to the chest and 1 to the head!!!!!
Jill

Saint Paul, MN

#13 Oct 24, 2011
ARMED CITIZEN wrote:
Just let a cop try and take my gun, go ahead I wish they would try. They will get a hot piece of metal in the head, because they are not the only ones who practice shooting, and it be best for them to remember that 3 to the chest and 1 to the head!!!!!
I look forward to reading about you in the obits someday.

“Now thats a tin hat!”

Since: Oct 07

Blue Ridge Mountains

#14 Oct 24, 2011
ahhhhhh, poor baby. He is afraid that the big bad law abiding citizen will be able to exercise his rights in his little gestapo town.

Tuff noogies.

Welcome to the 21st century, where law abiding citizens don't have to sit in the back of the bus.

I bet this cops daddy was busting black guys heads in the 60's.

Plus, is he like gobbels, and thinks if he tells the same lie often enough people will believe him??

You still have to obey the laws of the state you carry in.
ARMED CITIZEN

Saint Paul, MN

#15 Oct 24, 2011
Jill wrote:
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I look forward to reading about you in the obits someday.
That will happen only if a cop comes threw my door, and I'll guarantee I'll take 3-4 of them pigs with me!! Biotch
eleanor

Las Vegas, NV

#17 Nov 5, 2011
I'm just wild about Harry!!!

Since: May 11

United States

#18 Nov 6, 2011
Time to turn gun control on the government. Let's require registration of government owned weapons with a database accessible to the people. Let's ban carry of firearms by police and ban them from having semi auto and full auto weapons.

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