How do we protect kids in school?

Jan 8, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Ruidoso News

During a newsroom discussion about guns about a decade ago, a woman piped up: "I don't understand what the big deal is.

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factologist wrote:
<quoted text>Claiming I was ignorant about the A10 is still. You knew I was talking about ARs and not aircraft.
It's always easy for you to lie, snipe.
Anyway, I gotcha'. You're a liar all right.
The only thing you "got" is air betwen your ears, ball-peen.

Keep trying little troll.
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The only thing you "got" is air betwen your ears, ball-peen.
Keep trying little troll.
You asked for examples of your lying. I gave them to you. There's nothing left to try. You lied and I gotcha'.

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<quoted text>How so?
You can't fight a war on a concept.

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<quoted text>How so?
Where is all this so called terror happening ?

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<quoted text>You can't fight a war on a concept.
You think 9/11 was a concept?

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<quoted text>You think 9/11 was a concept?
Someone's concept.
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"A Louisiana judge says a state law prohibiting felons from possessing firearms is unconstitutional because it violates a recent amendment to the state constitution declaring it a "fundamental right" to bear arms.

Louisiana voters approved the amendment last year to make gun ownership a "fundamental right," which puts it on the same level as freedom of speech or religion, the New Orleans Times-Picayune reports.

The Orleans Parish public defenders office challenged the statute on behalf of a group of clients, who were felons charged with possession of firearms. They argued that the state had compelling public safety reasons for barring felons convicted of violent crimes from possessing firearms. But they said the state would have to prove why the law should apply to all felons, the Times-Picayune said"

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factologist wrote:
"A Louisiana judge says a state law prohibiting felons from possessing firearms is unconstitutional because it violates a recent amendment to the state constitution declaring it a "fundamental right" to bear arms.
Louisiana voters approved the amendment last year to make gun ownership a "fundamental right," which puts it on the same level as freedom of speech or religion, the New Orleans Times-Picayune reports.
The Orleans Parish public defenders office challenged the statute on behalf of a group of clients, who were felons charged with possession of firearms. They argued that the state had compelling public safety reasons for barring felons convicted of violent crimes from possessing firearms. But they said the state would have to prove why the law should apply to all felons, the Times-Picayune said"
This is interesting. The precedent set that convicted felons forfeit certain rights by committing felony crimes will be coming under scrutiny as well now I suppose. It has been the practice that those forfeited rights can only be reinstated by full pardon or expungement.
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factologist wrote:
"A Louisiana judge says a state law prohibiting felons from possessing firearms is unconstitutional because it violates a recent amendment to the state constitution declaring it a "fundamental right" to bear arms.
Louisiana voters approved the amendment last year to make gun ownership a "fundamental right," which puts it on the same level as freedom of speech or religion, the New Orleans Times-Picayune reports.
The Orleans Parish public defenders office challenged the statute on behalf of a group of clients, who were felons charged with possession of firearms. They argued that the state had compelling public safety reasons for barring felons convicted of violent crimes from possessing firearms. But they said the state would have to prove why the law should apply to all felons, the Times-Picayune said"
This would certainlt "blow a hole" in the pro gun argument that people that legally buy guns are "law abiding citizens" exercising their 2nd Amendment rights. The NRA should fight this!!!
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<quoted text>This is interesting. The precedent set that convicted felons forfeit certain rights by committing felony crimes will be coming under scrutiny as well now I suppose. It has been the practice that those forfeited rights can only be reinstated by full pardon or expungement.
"The case involved a man who was convicted of attempted simple burglary, a felony crime, and later caught possessing firearms. The manís attorneys argued that although the state had a compelling interest to prevent certain violent felons from owning guns, it could not provide compelling evidence that the same should be true for all felons."
Daily Kos.

Just because you'll break into somebody's home and steal their stuff does that mean you shouldn't be allowed to have one of your "fundamental state rights".

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<quoted text>"The case involved a man who was convicted of attempted simple burglary, a felony crime, and later caught possessing firearms. The manís attorneys argued that although the state had a compelling interest to prevent certain violent felons from owning guns, it could not provide compelling evidence that the same should be true for all felons."
Daily Kos.
Just because you'll break into somebody's home and steal their stuff does that mean you shouldn't be allowed to have one of your "fundamental state rights".
I think a more defined process for the forfeiture of rights by convicted felons will be the outcome. They chose to commit the crime therefore they chose to forfeit those rights. The other question that comes to mind is how long does the forfeiture last? Is there a point at which, having maintained a clean record, those rights should be automatically reinstated? Or do we continue, as is, with pardon or expungement being the only ways to keep it from being a life long forfeiture?
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Question: If a state's constitution declares something a "fundamental right" would a state law that restricts a certain group of people from that right, be constitutional within that state?
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Squach wrote:
<quoted text>I think a more defined process for the forfeiture of rights by convicted felons will be the outcome. They chose to commit the crime therefore they chose to forfeit those rights. The other question that comes to mind is how long does the forfeiture last? Is there a point at which, having maintained a clean record, those rights should be automatically reinstated? Or do we continue, as is, with pardon or expungement being the only ways to keep it from being a life long forfeiture?
This is one issue that the "Libtards" and the "Con-artists" should team up on to defeat! The Dems don't want them to have guns, and the Reps don't want them to be able to vote!!!

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Question: If a state's constitution declares something a "fundamental right" would a state law that restricts a certain group of people from that right, be constitutional within that state?
The only way I could see that legally and constitutionally standing is if the "group of people" in question are felony convicts. If the "group of people" in question are law abiding citizens with no record of felony crimes or insanity, no the law would not be constitutional. Just my opinion.
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This would certainlt "blow a hole" in the pro gun argument that people that legally buy guns are "law abiding citizens" exercising their 2nd Amendment rights. The NRA should fight this!!!
They probably would if they were motivated by something other than greed.
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xando wrote:
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They probably would if they were motivated by something other than greed.
Like those that are motivated with the desire to control the legal activities of others...like some people on these threads and in politics.
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Marauder wrote:
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Like those that are motivated with the desire to control the legal activities of others...like some people on these threads and in politics.
Oh poor marauder. How are you being controlled? Or are you just intolerant of others expressing opinions that don't agree with yours?
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xando wrote:
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Oh poor marauder. How are you being controlled? Or are you just intolerant of others expressing opinions that don't agree with yours?
"How are you being controlled?"

I'm not and won't allow you to and will continue to fight against those that try.

"Or are you just intolerant of others expressing opinions that don't agree with yours?"

No, I'm extremely tolerant of the opinions of others no matter how ignorant they are and I will always support their right to express their opinion. Just don't confuse "tolerance" with acceptance...just because I can tolerate your opinion doesn't mean I will accept it or let it go unchallenged. Too bad we can't say the same for the "frustrated control freaks" that want to try and control the legal and Constitutionally protected rights of others.
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cjrian wrote:
It's interesting to note that many (the majority?) of the most vocal anti-gun nuts have CCW's, themselves, or have armed security details.
Obama opposes gun ownership for the proletariat, but sends his daughters to Sidwell Friends, which has an ARMED Security Detail of eleven (while Obama opposes ANY armed Security in OUR children's schools). The Secret Service (armed) protects them during non-school hours.
Pelosi and Reid carry, as does Michael Moore. Mostr of the Hollywood elite that wants OUR gun Rights curtailed, have armed Security.
"Laws are for thee, but not for me"
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Its very simple, make Parents like the killer in Newtown, the Mother should have kept and locked the guns up away from her son- the Crazed killer of those poor women and very young children! Be aware of your own Kids, and if you can"t ....you will surely be judged by your own are if your lucky by the Judge in your county.Don"t destroy the tools that we have like GUNS. That is like burning the witches in the dark ages, because it didn"t rain enough on the village crops...ect. Can"t you all see how silly this is , about gun controll. My god I feel like we just went back 300 years in time!

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Marauder wrote:
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"How are you being controlled?"
I'm not and won't allow you to and will continue to fight against those that try.
"Or are you just intolerant of others expressing opinions that don't agree with yours?"
No, I'm extremely tolerant of the opinions of others no matter how ignorant they are and I will always support their right to express their opinion. Just don't confuse "tolerance" with acceptance...just because I can tolerate your opinion doesn't mean I will accept it or let it go unchallenged. Too bad we can't say the same for the "frustrated control freaks" that want to try and control the legal and Constitutionally protected rights of others.
Spot on!

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