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Read & React: French Jeweler Shoots Robber, Charged with Murder

There are 45 comments on the Guns and Ammo story from Sep 20, 2013, titled Read & React: French Jeweler Shoots Robber, Charged with Murder. In it, Guns and Ammo reports that:

Police cordone the area outside the jewelry store La Turquoise in Nice, France, after the store's owner, Stephan Turk, shot and killed a 19-year-old robber, Alexandra Asli, on Wednesday, Sept.

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Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#1 Sep 20, 2013
May be the robber got what he deserved.
Shooting him in the back in the street when fleeing doesn't make a case for self-defense.
Nicois Honoraire

Bristol, VT

#2 Sep 20, 2013
When you use a gun in a robbery, you raise the ante to the highest level. "Live by the sword, die by the sword" That young scumbag most probably would have shot the jeweler if he hadn't given up the jewels; and his death has probably saved someone else from being victimized by him. Hats off to the jeweler. Too bad he didn't get the other thug too.

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#3 Sep 21, 2013
Nicois Honoraire wrote:
When you use a gun in a robbery, you raise the ante to the highest level. "Live by the sword, die by the sword" That young scumbag most probably would have shot the jeweler if he hadn't given up the jewels; and his death has probably saved someone else from being victimized by him. Hats off to the jeweler. Too bad he didn't get the other thug too.
I don't make a case on what didn't happen, but on what happened.
The jeweler wasn't shot.
I don't admit the attack, I don't admit neither anybody rushing in the street with a gun and firing at anyone, although I can understand its wrath.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#4 Sep 21, 2013
While I agree that this was not a self-defense shooting, the ARMED robber deserved to be shot down like a dog in the street. F***'em. When more of this same type of JUSTICE starts happening, maybe the criminals will start to sit up and notice. Over the top? Maybe. But one thing is for certain. He will NEVER place anyone in fear for their life EVER AGAIN. Kudos to the shop keeper.

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#5 Sep 22, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
While I agree that this was not a self-defense shooting, the ARMED robber deserved to be shot down like a dog in the street. F***'em. When more of this same type of JUSTICE starts happening, maybe the criminals will start to sit up and notice. Over the top? Maybe. But one thing is for certain. He will NEVER place anyone in fear for their life EVER AGAIN. Kudos to the shop keeper.
Civilisation seems to have started with the Code of Hammurabi which stated that the retaliations at someone were not to be greater than the dammage he has done.

For the Jews or the Christians, Eye for eye also means too not higher than the dammage done.
rio

Beckenham, UK

#6 Sep 22, 2013
DonPanic wrote:
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Civilisation seems to have started with the Code of Hammurabi which stated that the retaliations at someone were not to be greater than the dammage he has done.
For the Jews or the Christians, Eye for eye also means too not higher than the dammage done.
But I thought that a secular country was ignoring religions? LOL

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#7 Sep 23, 2013
rio wrote:
But I thought that a secular country was ignoring religions? LOL
Obsessed about religions, aren't you ?
Muslims seem to be obsessed by religion, then by sex: they must have the womens'hair covered, being unable to see even a woman's hair without having an erection

It's not about religions, it's about justice, when reading the code of laws they ordered to be written, nobody cares which God did pray Hammourabi or Napoleon, it's about human justice, not divine justice.

Just notice that a christian hit at cheek is supposed to show with the other cheek and hit at heart is supposed to show its other heart

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#8 Sep 23, 2013
Now, you should know that many atheists or agnostics are defrocked believers
rio

London, UK

#9 Sep 23, 2013
DonPanic wrote:
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Obsessed about religions, aren't you ?
No, you are the one who claim to be atheist, but you make reference to the Code of Hammurabi, Christianity and Judaism to put forward the case of proportionate retaliation in case of criminality.
I find that strange.

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#10 Sep 23, 2013
rio wrote:
No, you are the one who claim to be atheist, but you make reference to the Code of Hammurabi, Christianity and Judaism to put forward the case of proportionate retaliation in case of criminality.
I find that strange.
Code of Hammurabi doesn't refer to God.
I should have said the Hebrew instead of the Jews, referring to a people regardless of a religion.
Must atheists erase history of their brain?

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#11 Sep 23, 2013
Do you think that atheists have no culture, never opened a Bible, the Evangiles, a Koran or religious philosophers' books to make an opinion ?
rio

London, UK

#12 Sep 23, 2013
DonPanic wrote:
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Must atheists erase history of their brain?
Atheists try to erase religion from society, no?
rio

London, UK

#13 Sep 23, 2013
DonPanic wrote:
Do you think that atheists have no culture, never opened a Bible, the Evangiles, a Koran or religious philosophers' books to make an opinion ?
Atheists are rather dismissive of religions in general...
rio

London, UK

#14 Sep 24, 2013
Nicois Honoraire wrote:
When you use a gun in a robbery, you raise the ante to the highest level. "Live by the sword, die by the sword" That young scumbag most probably would have shot the jeweler if he hadn't given up the jewels; and his death has probably saved someone else from being victimized by him. Hats off to the jeweler. Too bad he didn't get the other thug too.
I tend to agree with that, although I am sure the law won't condone chasing a robber in the street.

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#15 Sep 24, 2013
rio wrote:
Atheists try to erase religion from society, no?
There is a slight difference bitwin history and religion. I won't explain it to you here, just do refer to your dictionnary.

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#16 Sep 24, 2013
rio wrote:
although I am sure the law won't condone chasing a robber in the street.
except that it's french laws applied here, forbidding to a private citizen to carry in the streets a charged gun, to shoot at anyone which doesn't represent an emergent danger and to make self justice.
By the way, it's a jury that will sentence a penalty, taking in account the drama circumstances, I'm quite sure it will be very comprehensive.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#17 Sep 24, 2013
rio wrote:
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Atheists are rather dismissive of religions in general...
It takes just as much faith, if not more, to be an Athiest as it does a Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, etc.
rio

London, UK

#18 Sep 24, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
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It takes just as much faith, if not more, to be an Athiest as it does a Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, etc.
Agreed. That's why all sides should be tolerant of each others and not try to take over the debate.

In France, like in socialist countries, only atheism is allowed to flourish, and religions are pushed to the ground.

Morally, what's the difference with countries where only one religion is allowed?

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#19 Sep 24, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
It takes just as much faith, if not more, to be an Athiest as it does a Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, etc.
Im my own logic, to unbelieve is not a synonim for to believe, and I wonder why I should need any faith for not to believing in a God, in some eternal life, in any heaven or paradise.
Now, it's not a topic for religion
rio wrote:
Agreed. That's why all sides should be tolerant of each others and not try to take over the debate.
In France, like in socialist countries, only atheism is allowed to flourish, and religions are pushed to the ground.
Religions flourish when Christians are back to the churches, Protestans back to the temples, Muslims back to the mosquees, they weaken when so-called believers stay in bed instead of going to religious offices, and that's what does happen in France.
No atheism push never gets rid of deep faith, at worse it can make it clandestine.

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#20 Sep 24, 2013
Hey, rio, didn't you learn that rhe roman emperors didn't destroy christianity by martyrising the Christians ?

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