It's the Guns, Stupid

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La Vista, NE

#110226 Sep 2, 2013
Snow Bunny_ wrote:
Not one single intelligent response??!! LOL!
That's pretty much what I thought :D
You've never made an intelligent post.
truth

Perth, Australia

#110227 Sep 3, 2013
Besara

Des Moines, IA

#110228 Sep 3, 2013
just an allusion wrote:
<quoted text>
I've actually made more than one....
No, you didn't. The requirement was to come up with not only compelling, but especially reasonable, arguments for gun registration and background checks. Nothing you posted met that requirement.
AnswersRus

Lander, WY

#110229 Sep 3, 2013
Snow Bunny_ wrote:
<quoted text>There are but two kinds of Liberals in the world?
...and you get this "fact" from....who?
Who are these communist/fascist/socialists you speak of, specifically?
...and after you list them, can you be specific to what makes them those scary names you listed?
That's the sad part...most right wingers just repeat what they've heard (communist, fascist, socialist) and don't even know what they mean, lol.
for example: you say some liberals are communist and fascists, and socialists....yet all those things contradict each other. You can't be a socialist communist and a fascist at the same time. The completely contradict each other, lol.
You seem brain washed.
What is the difference between a republic and a democracy?
Which do you prefer and for what reasons?
AnswersRus

Lander, WY

#110230 Sep 3, 2013
Snow Bunny_ wrote:
<quoted text>Do you really need me to tell you what those words mean? I mean, even if you do not know...we have a thing on the internet now called FreeDictionary. It's pretty cool. It's a site where you can look up words, and find the meaning!
But, I'll play along...
Fascist is when people are ruled by a dictator with social and economic control, and suppression of the opposition through terror.
(Obviously Obama is NOT a dictator, because we have a CONGRESS!
Communism is when the Government takes control of ALL of private property, and goods are given to all as needed.
(that contradicts fascism because communism is not ruled by one dictator..it's ruled by a Gov't, and under fascism, since the state holds all rights, it also retains control over the production of goods, and services. Unlike communism, fascism openly uses the resources to pursue the interests of the government.
socialism is a system that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land , etc.....
(Do you really need me to explain how fascism and communism contradicts socialism?)
Liberal means a person is not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, religion, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry!
Right Winger are conservatives....but, they only conserve the wealth of their backers. The Right wingers have supported some of the most wasteful and environmentally destructive policies ever known to humanity.
You're welcome!
Is that how it is going to be with you? You bad mouth me before you do anything else.
I would think that someone who seems as passionate about your beliefs as you appear to be, that you would avoid making enemies before we even get out of the debate gate. Maybe I agree with you. How will you ever know that if you make me mad before we even get started?

“Imaginez tous les gens”

Since: Sep 09

Sunbury, OH

#110231 Sep 3, 2013
AnswersRus wrote:
<quoted text>
What is the difference between a republic and a democracy?
Which do you prefer and for what reasons?
We are a republic. The difference when you have a democracy is the PEOPLE themselves make the laws, and hash it out at town hall meetings, etc....
A republic is where we HIRE people to make those decisions for us (Governors, senators, etc...)
I think a republic is WORSE than a democracy, because we are letting a handful of people make these important decisions for us.
But, they both have their good and bad points.
I prefer BOTH depending on the circumstances for reason that should be obvious to anyone enducated in politics.

“Imaginez tous les gens”

Since: Sep 09

Sunbury, OH

#110232 Sep 3, 2013
AnswersRus wrote:
<quoted text>
Is that how it is going to be with you? You bad mouth me before you do anything else.
I would think that someone who seems as passionate about your beliefs as you appear to be, that you would avoid making enemies before we even get out of the debate gate. Maybe I agree with you. How will you ever know that if you make me mad before we even get started?
I never bad mouthed you.
Explaining to you that we have FreeDictionary online (because you were asking me the meaning of words) is not bad mouthing you. You are too sensitive.
If you think it is "bad mouthing" then maybe that's your own insecurities for not knowing the meaning of the words?
Please don't deflect your own insecurities onto me :D
Now, if you want to explain why you asked the meanings/or whether you agree with me or not then I'm here....but you seem to be playing immature games to me.
but, I'll play along.....get started.....?

“Imaginez tous les gens”

Since: Sep 09

Sunbury, OH

#110233 Sep 3, 2013
Jack Meoff wrote:
<quoted text>
YOU aren't intelligent enough to know what an 'intelligent response' would be!
Signed Jack Meoff, you bitch!
:-))
Jack Jack Jack, lol...you need some new material! Changing around my profile name, in an attempt to be funny is older and more overused then your moms vagina!
I mean, I used to do that 4 years ago....try something new. Something funnier...make me LAUGH at least!
Also, anyone with half a brain can see who is intelligent, and who is not. The poster that RUNS from a intelligent debate, hides behind name calling, lame jokes, and multiple profiles is obviously the unintelligent one :)
Why run away from intelligent people? Are you afraid?
need a hug?
Can I ask you a >serious< question?
were you abused as a child?
AnswersRus

Lander, WY

#110234 Sep 3, 2013
Snow Bunny_ wrote:
<quoted text>
I never bad mouthed you.
Explaining to you that we have FreeDictionary online (because you were asking me the meaning of words) is not bad mouthing you. You are too sensitive.
If you think it is "bad mouthing" then maybe that's your own insecurities for not knowing the meaning of the words?
Please don't deflect your own insecurities onto me :D
Now, if you want to explain why you asked the meanings/or whether you agree with me or not then I'm here....but you seem to be playing immature games to me.
but, I'll play along.....get started.....?
I asked because I wished to know what you thought those words to mean.
If I wished to know what a dictionary said they are, I would simply look them up. I already did that before asking you what you though they mean.
It is apparent from the get go, that you think me beneath you and your self inflated ego, and are incapable of stopping yourself from demeaning others in your writings.
I guess I'll just take the "insecurities" you projected to me, and look for honest debate on these things elsewhere. I fear I will not get honesty from you. You have it all knowed up already in your mind. Your loss.
You yourself may wish to actually look up those definitions. I doubt you will. You should though.
ciao
Voices of Reason

Brisbane, Australia

#110235 Sep 3, 2013
Snow Bunny_ wrote:
<quoted text>Jack Jack Jack, lol...you need some new material! Changing around my profile name, in an attempt to be funny is older and more overused then your moms vagina!
I mean, I used to do that 4 years ago....try something new. Something funnier...make me LAUGH at least!
Also, anyone with half a brain can see who is intelligent, and who is not. The poster that RUNS from a intelligent debate, hides behind name calling, lame jokes, and multiple profiles is obviously the unintelligent one :)
Why run away from intelligent people? Are you afraid?
need a hug?
Can I ask you a >serious< question?
were you abused as a child?
That's a secksy pair of knockers you got there Bunny. You wouldn't get too many of then to the kilo - any chance of a feel ?
spOko

Oakland, CA

#110236 Sep 3, 2013
Texas please secede from the Union!
The GOPer winggnuz Board of Education in TX have gone of the deep end. As one of the largest buyers of textbooks in the country, the board changed and re-wrote the history books. Smaller states who have no textbook buying power would essentially have to read and study the new Texas version of history. The Atlantic slave trade will be known as the “Atlantic triangular trade”. Slaves will be referred to as Triangulates? The word “capitalism” is out; it will be replaced with the “free enterprise system.”

The board has diminished Thomas Jefferson’s role in history because of his belief in the separation of church and state. Students also are required to learn that America’s founding documents were influenced by various intellectual traditions,“especially biblical law,” and principles laid down by Moses. From the tenor of the changes, the board approved the foundation for a fundamentalist Christian theocracy. Social conservatives, creationists, religious fanatics and assorted loons, who dominate the Texas State Board of Education, want to redefine the Constitution as an explicitly Christian document and highlight the role of God in the establishment of the US.

Perhaps we could replace Washington with Moses?

“It's all about the struggle”

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#110237 Sep 3, 2013
Voices of Reason wrote:
<quoted text>That's a secksy pair of knockers you got there Bunny. You wouldn't get too many of then to the kilo - any chance of a feel ?
Snow Bunny is a guy, der.

“It's all about the struggle”

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#110238 Sep 3, 2013
spOko wrote:
Texas please secede from the Union!
The GOPer winggnuz Board of Education in TX have gone of the deep end. As one of the largest buyers of textbooks in the country, the board changed and re-wrote the history books. Smaller states who have no textbook buying power would essentially have to read and study the new Texas version of history. The Atlantic slave trade will be known as the “Atlantic triangular trade”. Slaves will be referred to as Triangulates? The word “capitalism” is out; it will be replaced with the “free enterprise system.”
The board has diminished Thomas Jefferson’s role in history because of his belief in the separation of church and state. Students also are required to learn that America’s founding documents were influenced by various intellectual traditions,“especially biblical law,” and principles laid down by Moses. From the tenor of the changes, the board approved the foundation for a fundamentalist Christian theocracy. Social conservatives, creationists, religious fanatics and assorted loons, who dominate the Texas State Board of Education, want to redefine the Constitution as an explicitly Christian document and highlight the role of God in the establishment of the US.
Perhaps we could replace Washington with Moses?
Yer off topic, troll.
spOko

Oakland, CA

#110239 Sep 3, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>Yer off topic, troll.
Huh? Compared to what - you moron? LOL ...

Since: Oct 11

Location hidden

#110240 Sep 3, 2013
Besara wrote:
<quoted text>No, you didn't. The requirement was to come up with not only compelling, but especially reasonable, arguments for gun registration and background checks. Nothing you posted met that requirement.
Alright then, please explain what is SOOO 'un-reasonable' about requiring background checks to insure that firearms DON'T fall into the hands of criminals or the mentally unbalanced...?

Go ahead, give us YOUR rationale for why insuring AGAINST those inevitabilities (as recent history has demonstrated) are so unwarranted/impractical/unjust ified/unmerited?!?

Please tell us why we shouldn't take every precaution possible/necessary to insure that firearms don't fall into the hands of criminals or the psychologically compromised...?

Go on, I'll wait.
AnswersRus

Lander, WY

#110241 Sep 4, 2013
just an allusion wrote:
<quoted text>
Alright then, please explain what is SOOO 'un-reasonable' about requiring background checks to insure that firearms DON'T fall into the hands of criminals or the mentally unbalanced...?
Go ahead, give us YOUR rationale for why insuring AGAINST those inevitabilities (as recent history has demonstrated) are so unwarranted/impractical/unjust ified/unmerited?!?
Please tell us why we shouldn't take every precaution possible/necessary to insure that firearms don't fall into the hands of criminals or the psychologically compromised...?
Go on, I'll wait.
What is "SOOOO unreasonable" about your plan?
Simple.
It is unreasonable to think that your checks will have any reduction effect at all on the criminal element. The criminal element does not obtain their weaponry where there are background checks.
Your expectations of having any impact on the criminal element are completely and totally
"unwarranted/impractical/ unjustified/unmerited". Your approach is like shutting the barn door after all the horses have escaped. You attempt to stifle the practices and habits of sharks by caging eagles.
You place unwarranted burdens on those who you say are not your target. You are off target and will miss your stated point of aim.
AnswersRus

Lander, WY

#110242 Sep 4, 2013
just an allusion wrote:
<quoted text>
Alright then, please explain what is SOOO 'un-reasonable' about requiring background checks to insure that firearms DON'T fall into the hands of criminals or the mentally unbalanced...?
...
You and your plan are completely incapabe of insuring any such thing. It is foolish to think that background checks will have any effect at all on those who will avoid your checkpoints at will. You can not control the nasty ones by corralling and hassling the pleasant ones.

“Imaginez tous les gens”

Since: Sep 09

Sunbury, OH

#110243 Sep 4, 2013
AnswersRus wrote:
<quoted text>
I asked because I wished to know what you thought those words to mean.
I did'nt create the meaning of the words. Do you think I have my OWN meaning for those words apart from the actual meaning?
AnswersRus wrote:
<quoted text>
If I wished to know what a dictionary said they are, I would simply look them up.
Then why do you care what I think?
AnswersRus wrote:
<quoted text>
I already did that before asking you what you though they mean.
So, then you KNOW they all contradict each other, and it would be impossible for someone to be ALL those things at the same time....eh?
AnswersRus wrote:
<quoted text>
It is apparent from the get go, that you think me beneath you and your self inflated ego, and are incapable of stopping yourself from demeaning others in your writings.
Can you be specific to what you're talking about?
AGAIN, you are letting your own insecurities get in the way of a logical post.
AnswersRus wrote:
<quoted text>
I guess I'll just take the "insecurities" you projected to me, and look for honest debate on these things elsewhere.
You're projecting it onto yourself! Just read your writings....
AnswersRus wrote:
<quoted text>
I fear I will not get honesty from you.
Why not? can you be SPECIFIC? Is it because I hurt your feelings, or because I've done something dishonest? Obviously, it has nothing to do with my honesty, and everything to do with yourself.
You're too sensitive.
AnswersRus wrote:
<quoted text>
You have it all knowed up already in your mind.
????
AnswersRus wrote:
<quoted text>
Your loss.
If you say so, lol
AnswersRus wrote:
<quoted text>
You yourself may wish to actually look up those definitions. I doubt you will. You should though.
ciao
I don't have to look them up. I took a civic class in High School....didn't you?
I already listed the meanings, and how the contradict each other specifically....did you miss that part?

“Imaginez tous les gens”

Since: Sep 09

Sunbury, OH

#110244 Sep 4, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>Snow Bunny is a guy, der.
A lot of people on this very thread have my FaceBook...they know Im NOT a guy:D
But, it's your fantasy....make me a man if you want :/
AnswersRus

Lander, WY

#110245 Sep 4, 2013
Snow Bunny_ wrote:
<quoted text>I did'nt create the meaning of the words.
If you say so.
How's the weather there?

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