It's the Guns, Stupid

Apr 20, 2007 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Truthdig

“And that's the end of the issue”

Why do we have the same futile argument every time there is a mass killing? Advocates of gun control try to open a discussion about whether more reasonable weapons statutes might reduce the number of violent ... via Truthdig

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Ahomana wrote:
You are all wrong! Communism has never existed as a government anywhere in the world...it is socialism or the branches of it but never communism....ever...
This is like seeing the media idiots call crackers, hackers or vise a verse.
I wonder how this misinformation actually starts, it is like the Emperor and his new clothes story?
FYI....Crackers aren't hackers and Communism has never existed as a government anywhere on the Blue Planet! OK!~
I know you are right on this issue that true Communism has never existed just in name.

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I agree, over the decades, governments have used the "Communist" name to obtained power all over the globe!
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You got your history seriously bungled old chap; The Communist Party of the Soviet Union did not emerge until the end of the Bolsheviks and the bloody civil war in 1922. The Bolsheviks orchestrated the October Revolution which overthrew the Provisional Government, thus transferring all governing power to the workers' councils (Russian: soviets). Immediately thereafter, the Bolsheviks founded the Russian Socialist Federative Soviet Republic - the world's first constitutionally socialist state. After a bloody civil war, at the end of 1922 the Bolsheviks emerged victorious and unified territories of the former Russian Empire into the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR). I seriously doubt that your man Lincoln had anything to do with it :-)
here is what you said in post 107726 that communism emerge at the end of the Bolsheviks and the bloody civil war in 1922.

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I agree, over the decades, governments have used the "Communist" name to obtained power all over the globe!
of course this is right, they are the people that sold us on a red and white Santa clause just to sell a product...and it still embedded in most of our Christmas tradition...IT is a certainty that government and business will bastardise anything to sell a product...even misleading our systems of education to include lies and propaganda like communism exists in some countries (that have a want to make ogre's out of) when it suits their purpose.

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<quoted text>I know you are right on this issue that true Communism has never existed just in name.
I am not right because you say I am right, I am right because history says so.
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here is what you said in post 107726 that communism emerge at the end of the Bolsheviks and the bloody civil war in 1922.
Okay, it's called history ...

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It really isn't as cerebral as someqqople are making this out to be. There will always be some people who romanticize wiyh guns. No, nothing to do with fear that the Feds are coming or even so much about protection. They are just fixated with their gun hobby.
Some are ex-military and some wish they were, and still others have responsible and respectful intentions and practices with their firearms.
But the problem is with the loons.
The ones who think this is just a Dems vs Repub thing.
The ones who think this is a Conservative versus Progressive thing.
The ones who don't realize that Dems and Liberals have guns too.
The ones who will listen to a proposal for gun control that grandfather's all weapons legally purchased, that are being considered for restrictions - meaning those folks can keep theirs - and still scream that somebody is coming to take their guns anyway!

These people aren't running scared from anything. These people are simply in a romance with their guns. They give them to 5 year olds for their birthdays. Target practice is no longer satisfying at the gun range. Shooting deer and foul is no longer satisfying. They tell story after story and talk all manners of some eminant war right here in America between all of them and the rest of the country, with guns in hand......LOONS!!!!!
This is who the NRA supports........LOONS!!!!!
These are the same folks who think it is perfectly fine for other LOONS to be able to purchase any firearm they want at a gun show without even giving so much as their name - much less a background check!!!
These people are making responsible gun owners look really bad and weak minds are feeding into this crap!!!

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Excuse tye mis-speplings. I'm trying to get used to typing on an Android.
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I am not right because you say I am right, I am right because history says so.
Some argue that pre Colonial aboriginals practised true communism on a local level.

I always love it when there is an opportunity to watch that South African movie, "The God's must be Crazy"
It should be part of shool studies.
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Some argue that pre Colonial aboriginals practised true communism on a local level.
I always love it when there is an opportunity to watch that South African movie, "The God's must be Crazy"
It should be part of shool studies.
You also love it when there is a chance to watch small children you sick pedophile.
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You also love it when there is a chance to watch small children you sick pedophile.
I love it when you make a fool of youself yet again.
It still burns?
HAHAHAHA

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Ahomana wrote:
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I am not right because you say I am right, I am right because history says so.
"In regard to the third allegation: it is indeed a strange state of civil society, when the very basis upon which all associations of men are formed, is imputed to a man as a crime. If self-defence which is so much an axiom: so commanding the instinctive approbation of all men and times as to be known as the "first law of nature," has to be defended, I might as well quit the field in despair. But if it was not a virtue of the highest order, to resist mobs, which are violators of the peace, and in derogation of the dignity and safety of the commonwealth, I need but bring the National and state Constitutions to my defence, which place the right of the citizen "to bear arms in self-defence," beyond the power of legislation, higher and more sacred than the Constitution itself."

- Cassius Marcellus Clay,[The writings of Cassius Marcellus Clay: Including Speeches and Addresses. Edited, With a Preface and Memoir, By Horace Greeley. New York: Harper & Brothers, Publishers, No. 82 Cliff Street. 1848.](Mr. Clay served three times as Kentucky state representative, and was one of the founders of the Republican Party. Clay accepted the post of Minister to the Russian court, but the Civil War started before his departure. There were no Federal troops in Washington at the time, so Mr. Clay organized a group of 300 volunteers to protect the White House and U.S. Naval Yard from possible Confederate attack. These men became known as Cassius M. Clay's Washington Guards. This caused President Lincoln to give Clay a presentation Colt revolver).
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Oh dear, we seem to have missed the current state of gun affairs.

Usa Murder Rate 4.8
Usa Gun Muder rate 3.7

$.8 - 3.7 = 1.1

Aust murder rate 1.1
UK Murder rate 1.2

Arithmatic.

Usa 12996 Murders

225 Justifiablw Homicide by gun

The second ammendment seems to have been hijacked by Corporate Interests along with the First Ammendment.
With the first it is mostly Rupert. LOL.
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Some argue that pre Colonial aboriginals practised true communism on a local level.
I always love it when there is an opportunity to watch that South African movie, "The God's must be Crazy"
It should be part of shool studies.
It's funny you mentioned that movie. I thought it was one of the funniest movies. My wife thought it was stupid and didn't see the humor in it.

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Oh dear, we seem to have missed the current state of gun affairs.
Usa Murder Rate 4.8
Usa Gun Muder rate 3.7
$.8 - 3.7 = 1.1
Aust murder rate 1.1
UK Murder rate 1.2
Arithmatic.
Usa 12996 Murders
225 Justifiablw Homicide by gun
The second ammendment seems to have been hijacked by Corporate Interests along with the First Ammendment.
With the first it is mostly Rupert. LOL.
if you take your numbers that you posted and at those rates and take those percentages multiply them to get the population equivalent to the US, Australia and UK murder rates would be terrible compared to the US if the UK & Australia had the same population as the US.

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Why should you care if Conneticut passes these laws, you don't live in Connecticut do you?
Why should you care if Conneticut passes these laws, you don't live in Connecticut do you?
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<quoted text>if you take your numbers that you posted and at those rates and take those percentages multiply them to get the population equivalent to the US, Australia and UK murder rates would be terrible compared to the US if the UK & Australia had the same population as the US.
You can try that if you like.
But you are not as stupid as that Highlander.
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You can try that if you like.
But you are not as stupid as that Highlander.
Is this what you do between molesting kids?, post messages on topix about a subject you know nothing about in a country you dont live in and on a forum where nobody likes you, pedophile.
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Is this what you do between molesting kids?, post messages on topix about a subject you know nothing about in a country you dont live in and on a forum where nobody likes you, pedophile.
LOL. You are the one hiding your identity.

You have to. How does that feel? Perhaps you cannot post under your favourite persona. Why?
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LOL. You are the one hiding your identity.
You have to. How does that feel? Perhaps you cannot post under your favourite persona. Why?
meh, nothing about me.
You are the sicko that went to the pedophile capital.
Why ? Well your like all the other disgusting fat sweaty ugly old men that couldnt get a woman in Australia so go off to Thailand to look for a child bride and end up staying there molesting kids on a regular basis.

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You can try that if you like.
But you are not as stupid as that Highlander.
what ever happened to Highlander.

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