It's the Guns, Stupid

Apr 20, 2007 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Truthdig

“And that's the end of the issue”

Why do we have the same futile argument every time there is a mass killing? Advocates of gun control try to open a discussion about whether more reasonable weapons statutes might reduce the number of violent ... via Truthdig

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Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#107747 May 20, 2013
spocko wrote:
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I agree, over the decades, governments have used the "Communist" name to obtained power all over the globe!
of course this is right, they are the people that sold us on a red and white Santa clause just to sell a product...and it still embedded in most of our Christmas tradition...IT is a certainty that government and business will bastardise anything to sell a product...even misleading our systems of education to include lies and propaganda like communism exists in some countries (that have a want to make ogre's out of) when it suits their purpose.

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#107748 May 20, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>I know you are right on this issue that true Communism has never existed just in name.
I am not right because you say I am right, I am right because history says so.
spocko

Oakland, CA

#107749 May 20, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
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here is what you said in post 107726 that communism emerge at the end of the Bolsheviks and the bloody civil war in 1922.
Okay, it's called history ...

Since: Nov 08

South Florida

#107750 May 20, 2013
It really isn't as cerebral as someqqople are making this out to be. There will always be some people who romanticize wiyh guns. No, nothing to do with fear that the Feds are coming or even so much about protection. They are just fixated with their gun hobby.
Some are ex-military and some wish they were, and still others have responsible and respectful intentions and practices with their firearms.
But the problem is with the loons.
The ones who think this is just a Dems vs Repub thing.
The ones who think this is a Conservative versus Progressive thing.
The ones who don't realize that Dems and Liberals have guns too.
The ones who will listen to a proposal for gun control that grandfather's all weapons legally purchased, that are being considered for restrictions - meaning those folks can keep theirs - and still scream that somebody is coming to take their guns anyway!

These people aren't running scared from anything. These people are simply in a romance with their guns. They give them to 5 year olds for their birthdays. Target practice is no longer satisfying at the gun range. Shooting deer and foul is no longer satisfying. They tell story after story and talk all manners of some eminant war right here in America between all of them and the rest of the country, with guns in hand......LOONS!!!!!
This is who the NRA supports........LOONS!!!!!
These are the same folks who think it is perfectly fine for other LOONS to be able to purchase any firearm they want at a gun show without even giving so much as their name - much less a background check!!!
These people are making responsible gun owners look really bad and weak minds are feeding into this crap!!!

Since: Nov 08

South Florida

#107751 May 20, 2013
Excuse tye mis-speplings. I'm trying to get used to typing on an Android.
GoGoBar

Thailand

#107752 May 20, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
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I am not right because you say I am right, I am right because history says so.
Some argue that pre Colonial aboriginals practised true communism on a local level.

I always love it when there is an opportunity to watch that South African movie, "The God's must be Crazy"
It should be part of shool studies.
H20 Mpp

Anonymous Proxy

#107753 May 20, 2013
GoGoBar wrote:
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Some argue that pre Colonial aboriginals practised true communism on a local level.
I always love it when there is an opportunity to watch that South African movie, "The God's must be Crazy"
It should be part of shool studies.
You also love it when there is a chance to watch small children you sick pedophile.
GoGoBar

Thailand

#107754 May 20, 2013
H20 Mpp wrote:
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You also love it when there is a chance to watch small children you sick pedophile.
I love it when you make a fool of youself yet again.
It still burns?
HAHAHAHA

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#107755 May 20, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
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I am not right because you say I am right, I am right because history says so.
"In regard to the third allegation: it is indeed a strange state of civil society, when the very basis upon which all associations of men are formed, is imputed to a man as a crime. If self-defence which is so much an axiom: so commanding the instinctive approbation of all men and times as to be known as the "first law of nature," has to be defended, I might as well quit the field in despair. But if it was not a virtue of the highest order, to resist mobs, which are violators of the peace, and in derogation of the dignity and safety of the commonwealth, I need but bring the National and state Constitutions to my defence, which place the right of the citizen "to bear arms in self-defence," beyond the power of legislation, higher and more sacred than the Constitution itself."

- Cassius Marcellus Clay,[The writings of Cassius Marcellus Clay: Including Speeches and Addresses. Edited, With a Preface and Memoir, By Horace Greeley. New York: Harper & Brothers, Publishers, No. 82 Cliff Street. 1848.](Mr. Clay served three times as Kentucky state representative, and was one of the founders of the Republican Party. Clay accepted the post of Minister to the Russian court, but the Civil War started before his departure. There were no Federal troops in Washington at the time, so Mr. Clay organized a group of 300 volunteers to protect the White House and U.S. Naval Yard from possible Confederate attack. These men became known as Cassius M. Clay's Washington Guards. This caused President Lincoln to give Clay a presentation Colt revolver).
GoGoBar

Thailand

#107756 May 20, 2013
Oh dear, we seem to have missed the current state of gun affairs.

Usa Murder Rate 4.8
Usa Gun Muder rate 3.7

$.8 - 3.7 = 1.1

Aust murder rate 1.1
UK Murder rate 1.2

Arithmatic.

Usa 12996 Murders

225 Justifiablw Homicide by gun

The second ammendment seems to have been hijacked by Corporate Interests along with the First Ammendment.
With the first it is mostly Rupert. LOL.
Teaman

Mount Holly, NJ

#107757 May 20, 2013
GoGoBar wrote:
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Some argue that pre Colonial aboriginals practised true communism on a local level.
I always love it when there is an opportunity to watch that South African movie, "The God's must be Crazy"
It should be part of shool studies.
It's funny you mentioned that movie. I thought it was one of the funniest movies. My wife thought it was stupid and didn't see the humor in it.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#107758 May 20, 2013
GoGoBar wrote:
Oh dear, we seem to have missed the current state of gun affairs.
Usa Murder Rate 4.8
Usa Gun Muder rate 3.7
$.8 - 3.7 = 1.1
Aust murder rate 1.1
UK Murder rate 1.2
Arithmatic.
Usa 12996 Murders
225 Justifiablw Homicide by gun
The second ammendment seems to have been hijacked by Corporate Interests along with the First Ammendment.
With the first it is mostly Rupert. LOL.
if you take your numbers that you posted and at those rates and take those percentages multiply them to get the population equivalent to the US, Australia and UK murder rates would be terrible compared to the US if the UK & Australia had the same population as the US.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#107759 May 20, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
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Why should you care if Conneticut passes these laws, you don't live in Connecticut do you?
Why should you care if Conneticut passes these laws, you don't live in Connecticut do you?
GoGoBar

Thailand

#107760 May 20, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>if you take your numbers that you posted and at those rates and take those percentages multiply them to get the population equivalent to the US, Australia and UK murder rates would be terrible compared to the US if the UK & Australia had the same population as the US.
You can try that if you like.
But you are not as stupid as that Highlander.
eber

Anonymous Proxy

#107761 May 20, 2013
GoGoBar wrote:
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You can try that if you like.
But you are not as stupid as that Highlander.
Is this what you do between molesting kids?, post messages on topix about a subject you know nothing about in a country you dont live in and on a forum where nobody likes you, pedophile.
GoGoBar

Thailand

#107762 May 20, 2013
eber wrote:
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Is this what you do between molesting kids?, post messages on topix about a subject you know nothing about in a country you dont live in and on a forum where nobody likes you, pedophile.
LOL. You are the one hiding your identity.

You have to. How does that feel? Perhaps you cannot post under your favourite persona. Why?
gold

Germany

#107763 May 20, 2013
GoGoBar wrote:
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LOL. You are the one hiding your identity.
You have to. How does that feel? Perhaps you cannot post under your favourite persona. Why?
meh, nothing about me.
You are the sicko that went to the pedophile capital.
Why ? Well your like all the other disgusting fat sweaty ugly old men that couldnt get a woman in Australia so go off to Thailand to look for a child bride and end up staying there molesting kids on a regular basis.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#107764 May 20, 2013
GoGoBar wrote:
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You can try that if you like.
But you are not as stupid as that Highlander.
what ever happened to Highlander.
GoGoBar

Thailand

#107765 May 20, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>what ever happened to Highlander.
God knows where it is HIDING. LOL> His arithmatic still lingers.
Somewhere that a wheelchair can gbe for sure.
Oh, that will be room service.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#107766 May 20, 2013
GoGoBar wrote:
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God knows where it is HIDING. LOL> His arithmatic still lingers.
Somewhere that a wheelchair can gbe for sure.
Oh, that will be room service.
yeah somebody else told me that too

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