It's the Guns, Stupid

Apr 20, 2007 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Truthdig

“And that's the end of the issue”

Why do we have the same futile argument every time there is a mass killing? Advocates of gun control try to open a discussion about whether more reasonable weapons statutes might reduce the number of violent ... via Truthdig

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Instead of using nonsense statistics use the ones from the horses mouth...Now take note of the Australia vs USA crime per 100,000 per capita and don't tell me you don't just wish you were us....
http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs @.nsf/0/818290CA7DF32B80CA2570 EC001B2FC2?opendocument
http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs @.nsf/Lookup/by%20Subject/1301 .0~2012~Main%20Features~Nation al%20crime%20statistics~63
http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2012/october/...
Your FBI link is not comparable for violence with Australia.
The FBI does not list simple assault in violent crime, wheras all other Nations do.
It is similar to their Rape versus our sexual assault reporting.
I am not sure if they believe that one leads to another or not.

Of course the severity of the violence with guns is a whole order of magnitude above advanced nations.

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Your FBI link is not comparable for violence with Australia.
The FBI does not list simple assault in violent crime, wheras all other Nations do.
It is similar to their Rape versus our sexual assault reporting.
I am not sure if they believe that one leads to another or not.
Of course the severity of the violence with guns is a whole order of magnitude above advanced nations.
No you are right, from my experience unless you spell it out for the yands they find it difficult to extrapolate.:)
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Yeah...second only to Mexico you have the highest death rate in the western world...in order to find a comparrison you would have to include war torn countries....now who do you think is a bullshitter here...could it be...nooooo! yes by gum, the yank has it....
Australian whites are not only the most Racist but some of the most prolific rapists in the world!

Crime Statistics > Rapes (per capita)(most recent) by country
VIEW DATA: Totals Per capita
Definition Source Printable version

Showing latest available data. Rank Countries Amount (top to bottom)

#3 Australia: 0.777999 per 1,000 people

#9 United States: 0.301318 per 1,000 people

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap_per ...
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It ain't no joke when a Mama's handkerchief is soaked
With her tears because her baby's life has been revoked
The bond is broke up so choke up and focus on the close up
Mr. LaPierre can't perform no God-like hocus pocus
So don't sit back, kick back, and watch the world get bushmaster whacked
News at ten o'clock your neighborhood is under attack
Put away the guns before the guns puts you away
You need to be there when your babies are old enough to relate

So don't delay, act now, gunnuts are running about
Allow, if you're still alive, six to eight years to arrive
And if you follow, there may be a tomorrow
But if the offers shun you might as well be walkin' on the sun
You might as well be walkin' on the sun
You might as well be walkin' on the sun
You might as well be walkin' on the sun

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Australian whites are not only the most Racist but some of the most prolific rapists in the world!
Crime Statistics > Rapes (per capita)(most recent) by country
VIEW DATA: Totals Per capita
Definition Source Printable version
Showing latest available data. Rank Countries Amount (top to bottom)
#3 Australia: 0.777999 per 1,000 people
#9 United States: 0.301318 per 1,000 people
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap_per ...
By the way those statistics are wrong...Australia.(yawn) includes all sexual reports in our rape statistic, you yanks don't, you only report male on female penetration in yours...not quite fair when you look at it in those terms is it? BTW....Only idiots use that sight. And we are no more racist than the next country...I have visited your deep south there pacha, Aussies are just not willing to have groups of wogs assault and slag off at our females on our beaches and let them get away with it.......Cronulla comes to mind....you dick headed Billy
Bob....Then there are the Indians over here studying and blaming us for the murder of a Indian todler...turned out that was an Indian guy who was rooming with the parents and the other Indian that burnt his car and claimed it was Australians...they got him though and he never did get the Insurance money...so load them up and we will dispel the myths for you dumb arse.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

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Basically then, when we take your guns away you'll assume the fetal position and squeal like a stuck pig eh?
Molon Labe, M-Fer!

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Don't even try to justify America's stance on how three men can keep those young women for 10 years rape and abuse them (after their abduction) in suburbia with anything in Australia, you will fail you noong...nothing but nothing compares with the lack of social interaction that led to such a thing even being contemplated by those who felt they had the power in their country to carry out such a barbaric and heinous crime...Only a yank would not take the blame for such a lack of a breakdown in society that has led to a loss of freedom for these women...you sick bastards.
"We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions." -- Excerpts of a Speech by Governor Ronald Reagan, Republican National Convention, Platform Committee Meeting, Miami, Florida, July 31, 1968.

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Them are fightin' words to the gunloons!
Gun violence dropped dramatically nationwide over the past two decades, but the fact remains, over three-quarters of all homicides are still committed with a firearm. And most importantly, statistics do not offer any reasons for the decrease in gun violence.
Criminologists at the FBI have said that explanations for the decline remain elusive and credit it to modern, highly effective police tactics as well as gang violence also declined at the same rate.
"And most importantly, statistics do not offer any reasons for the decrease in gun violence."

Say what?
ROTFLMAO

"gang violence also declined at the same rate."
Really?

Statistics really confuse you eh Einstein.

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A six-month waiting period is also a serious deterrent to criminals.
Assuming you are correct.
Why do you suppose that criminals already do NOT get their arms from legal licensed dealers?
Do you suppose that a six month sentence for unlawful acts has the same effect on the criminal?

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Oh yes I have and lost count how about you chicken hawk? Most of us both love and hate the M-16, this precise weapon can be your best friend or worst enemy. Mine has never jammed up on me but I remember all to well having to remove a stuck cartridge lodged in the chamber with a metal rod making it look like a Musket. If you want your M16 to treat you right then you have to treat her right. Giving your rifle a quick field cleaning at least once or twice a day is a must on the battle field.
Interesting.
You just got done saying they are "easily maintained" and then you say;
"Giving your rifle a quick field cleaning at least once or twice a day is a must on the battle field."
Interesting indeed.

You make this shit up as you go huh Mr. Spock. What happened to your logic sir?.

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If the background checks and gun control is implemented it doesn't take away your guns for protection or hunting or sport shooting so where is that denying your right to bear anything?....What is gun control removing from you personally?...you have already stated that you have gotten rid of the guns you don't need so you are clearly just being a little bitch over nothing, and putting others at risk like those who died at Sandy Hook.
"NEED" is a relative term and is to be determined by the individual.
I may not "need" a particular firearm as a matter of personal choice if for no other reason, whilst another of my fellow citizens may have a great "need" for it for the very same reason - personal choice and determining for ourselves our own needs.

I may be a bitch lady, but I sure as hell ain't YOUR bitch. I will determine my own needs. YOU HAVE NO SAY IN THE MATTER.

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Well that makes it about 30 for the year....most were crime gang related so no loss,
Interesting.
We have been saying the exact same thing, but yet it is OK for you to say that and not us?
So, your criminals are no great loss, but yet ours, according to you, are worth saving and you advocate legislating away the rights of innocent and law abiding citizens in order to do that.
Piss off Aussie.

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Well that makes it about 30 for the year....most were crime gang related so no loss, gun control means our cops can do their jobs more effectively and stand by and watch these idiots with guns take each other out another win, win for Australian gun control..... so now about you, how is your death toll from guns going in America Billy Bob?....How about when you get close to our toll, you let us know, but from where I am sitting you are not even in the ball park or the car park or the city or, you get the point eh!
Which is greater?
25% of something or 50% of nothing?

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Why dont you just take a slow boat to China.
She's unable to pass China's background check.
Simple eh.

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and still only looking at around 30 deaths by gun most of which are criminals...gun control saving the day. Oh I thought I would let you do the body count, here is your death toll since Newtown....in pictures for the stupid...
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politi...
What are America's numbers if we subtract 80% of our gun violence deaths because of criminal on criminal homicide by gunshot?

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Yes of course, but more specific it's people with guns ...
Really?
It is the ACTIONS OF PEOPLE which are to blame?

Really?

How about that.

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Basically then, when we take your guns away you'll assume the fetal position and squeal like a stuck pig eh?
"WE"?
Who the fcuk is "we"?
You got a horse turd in your pocket?

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Show that proof!
Why?
So you can ignore it AGAIN?

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fundamentalists are all the same the world over.
Socialists are likewise lady.

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You lying yankee backward, Billy Bob bullshiting gun using neanderthal....produce the link you cowardly bastard!.....You can't you liar.......I love it when you gung ho's are put on the back step... squeal piggy squeal.....Liar, liar pants on fire....
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Kiss that ^ lady.

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