It's the Guns, Stupid

Apr 20, 2007 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Truthdig

“And that's the end of the issue”

Why do we have the same futile argument every time there is a mass killing? Advocates of gun control try to open a discussion about whether more reasonable weapons statutes might reduce the number of violent ... via Truthdig

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Ooops, looks like that dumb Canadian forgot where his money came from.

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Teaman wrote:
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Short history... Yes, the Brits did burn Washington, but failed to take Baltimore. The Brits that came down from Canada were defeated at the battle of Plattsburgh. The Brits really got their clocks cleaned at the Battle of New Orleans, British killed-386, British wounded-1521, British missing-522. American killed-55, 185 wounded, 93 missing.
I know your history well enough to know the British took the presidents mansion and he Madison fled with his troops...the british returned to their ships to continue the ongoing war with Napoleon...so the Americans had to negotiate to get it back....that is the point I was making Teaman, that the Yanks didn't reign militarily supreme as they believe, the If the Brits had wanted to us their military might to control them they would have been controlled, hell even the Canadians out did them in those days because of their British alliance...The British truly couldn't be bothered hanging on to your country, they had bigger fish to fry else you would all be singing god save the Queen.:)

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Ooops, looks like that dumb Canadian forgot where his money came from.
That isn't like you Teaman, I guess the saying about the Americans feeling inferior to the Canadians is true, they have always been the smarter country....I think it is the strong British influence that you lucked out on....:)

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I know your history well enough to know the British took the presidents mansion and he Madison fled with his troops...the british returned to their ships to continue the ongoing war with Napoleon...so the Americans had to negotiate to get it back....that is the point I was making Teaman, that the Yanks didn't reign militarily supreme as they believe, the If the Brits had wanted to us their military might to control them they would have been controlled, hell even the Canadians out did them in those days because of their British alliance...The British truly couldn't be bothered hanging on to your country, they had bigger fish to fry else you would all be singing god save the Queen.:)
Does it matter. They lost. We won. Thats like saying o, we only lost the basketball by one point, it doesnt matter, the outcome is that they lost.
Did you also know that when the brits attacked washington and set it afire that a freak hurricane came, makeing the brits retreat, and actually killed a large number of brits?
Strange, but true.

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I know your history well enough to know the British took the presidents mansion and he Madison fled with his troops...the british returned to their ships to continue the ongoing war with Napoleon...so the Americans had to negotiate to get it back....that is the point I was making Teaman, that the Yanks didn't reign militarily supreme as they believe, the If the Brits had wanted to us their military might to control them they would have been controlled, hell even the Canadians out did them in those days because of their British alliance...The British truly couldn't be bothered hanging on to your country, they had bigger fish to fry else you would all be singing god save the Queen.:)
True, but if the US didn't enter World War 2 Britain would have been speaking German and under the control of Hitler too just like the rest of Europe was under Nazi control.

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Who is The QUICK FIX IT TEAM Melbourne, Australia?

Who is "tagnat"

Who is Taganet342?

Where can we find him?

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<quoted text>True, but if the US didn't enter World War 2 Britain would have been speaking German and under the control of Hitler too just like the rest of Europe was under Nazi control.
Yes, and no. The usa did not save europe single handed. We had help. However, without the help of the usa things could have very well ended differently.
And remember too, we still had the damn japs to deal with.
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Teaman wrote:
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Short history... Yes, the Brits did burn Washington, but failed to take Baltimore. The Brits that came down from Canada were defeated at the battle of Plattsburgh. The Brits really got their clocks cleaned at the Battle of New Orleans, British killed-386, British wounded-1521, British missing-522. American killed-55, 185 wounded, 93 missing.
Was'nt New Orleans a French Possesion? Surely your French allies had a fight too!
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While I cetainly have no intent on doing the whole copy-paste thing like you have I will address the main points.
Failure and REFUSAL to pass a balanced budget and running up deficits to equal the spending every other president COMBINED is the very antithesis of "Fiscal Responsibility".
Total cost of Iraq war including post war military consequent costs = 6 trillion dollars.

How fiscally responsible was that???? and there were no WMD... You are still and will forever be paying that off..
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That isn't like you Teaman, I guess the saying about the Americans feeling inferior to the Canadians is true, they have always been the smarter country....I think it is the strong British influence that you lucked out on....:)
Actually, it is the French, Quebec influence... Both Prime Ministers: Trudeau and Cretian told the US they weren't going to join in any stupid wars...

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Total cost of Iraq war including post war military consequent costs = 6 trillion dollars.
How fiscally responsible was that???? and there were no WMD... You are still and will forever be paying that off..
True no WMD's were found. But you seem to have forgotten. It was saddam hussein himself who said they had them, and would use them. Also, he used wmd in the iraqi iran war, have you forgotten about that? And he used them on the kurds, have you forgotten about that?
Just bc they weren't found doesnt mean there wasnt any. He had used them twice, had you rather the world until he did it again?
Thats nonesense.

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<quoted text>Does it matter. They lost. We won. Thats like saying o, we only lost the basketball by one point, it doesnt matter, the outcome is that they lost.
Did you also know that when the brits attacked washington and set it afire that a freak hurricane came, makeing the brits retreat, and actually killed a large number of brits?
Strange, but true.
Of course it matters, not so much to me but to most of you yanks on here who dearly want to believe they are the ones that kicked out the Brits, dream on I say as history records it differently.... Now a win is a battle fought and a winner gets the spoils(the Brits won)...a loss is having to negotiate(the Americans) to get your country back (from the Brits who didn't give a damn about it) and a reliance that the enemy will concede to giving it to you ....The part about the hurricane... it made no difference, the president had high tailed it along with his troops and the Brits left for their want to get back to fighting a war they regarded as more important....you were just annoying mosquito's to them..... Note if it wasn't for the British commander telling his troops to only burn public buildings you wouldn't have any history left, yes I read that in Wikipedia....along with the hurricane story.
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<quoted text>True, but if the US didn't enter World War 2 Britain would have been speaking German and under the control of Hitler too just like the rest of Europe was under Nazi control.
You guys love constructing Myths.. like Hollywood. The US came late to WW2 and it was the Russians that did all the heavy lifting. You got there in time to be in the photographs when the war was over... ok you did some stuff in Italy... but you came in later than everyone else.
Thank god for the Ruskies.... or you would be speaking German too.....

You guys are only good when you have bombs to drop from thousands of feet in the air.
Like Iraq, shock and awe..

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<quoted text>True, but if the US didn't enter World War 2 Britain would have been speaking German and under the control of Hitler too just like the rest of Europe was under Nazi control.
If the Brits had have hung onto your country when they too the mansion it would be "the British you" saying that you won the war single handed, which would be more true...your forefathers were Brits you know?

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<quoted text>Yes, and no. The usa did not save europe single handed. We had help. However, without the help of the usa things could have very well ended differently.
And remember too, we still had the damn japs to deal with.
Right the US had Japan to deal with too where as Britain only had Hitler and Britain had Russia helping them too on the eastern front dealing with Hitler too but there was British Soldiers too in the Pacific Theater.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_War

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<quoted text>True no WMD's were found. But you seem to have forgotten. It was saddam hussein himself who said they had them, and would use them. Also, he used wmd in the iraqi iran war, have you forgotten about that? And he used them on the kurds, have you forgotten about that?
Just bc they weren't found doesnt mean there wasnt any. He had used them twice, had you rather the world until he did it again?
Thats nonesense.
And it was the Yanks who gave them to him and the yanks who helped him get them.....have you conveniently forgotten about that....It is not Hussein stupid, it is the bombs and gas and America...

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Of course it matters, not so much to me but to most of you yanks on here who dearly want to believe they are the ones that kicked out the Brits, dream on I say as history records it differently.... Now a win is a battle fought and a winner gets the spoils(the Brits won)...a loss is having to negotiate(the Americans) to get your country back (from the Brits who didn't give a damn about it) and a reliance that the enemy will concede to giving it to you ....The part about the hurricane... it made no difference, the president had high tailed it along with his troops and the Brits left for their want to get back to fighting a war they regarded as more important....you were just annoying mosquito's to them..... Note if it wasn't for the British commander telling his troops to only burn public buildings you wouldn't have any history left, yes I read that in Wikipedia....along with the hurricane story.
Really, seems to me like the brits tried it again, in the war of 1812 as they renigged on their treaty, and again was defeated. What negotiations are you talking about? Not saying it didnt happen, I guess I missed school that day. Anyway, that was then, this is now.
I do not speak with a british accent, nor is the union jack on my flag. To me, that says independence. That's all that matters.
I guess what I'm trying to say is is that its the total final outcome that matters.
And, we dont sing God save the Queen, that, is the final outcome.

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<quoted text>Right the US had Japan to deal with too where as Britain only had Hitler and Britain had Russia helping them too on the eastern front dealing with Hitler too but there was British Soldiers too in the Pacific Theater.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_War
Jesus Christ man the British military and England had been devastated by years of constant bombing, you got bombed once in Pearl Harbour by the Japanese and you cry about it...you shouldn't have put all your eggs in one basket perhaps?

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Jesus Christ man the British military and England had been devastated by years of constant bombing, you got bombed once in Pearl Harbour by the Japanese and you cry about it...you shouldn't have put all your eggs in one basket perhaps?
That man wasnt crying. He was stateing a fact.
Why are you such a bitch?
You cannot comment on anything without throwing some kind of slur.
Is that how you get your rocks off?
Is that the only satifaction you get outta life?
Seems like you cant hold a conversation without such shit, tht doesnt show intelligence, that shows someone who is pulling straws, trying to look intelligent while hideing the truth that you're the biggest nitwit here.
Every time an american says something you jump in with some jerk remark, and its only bc americans talk back to ya, I've noticed tht.
The aussies ignor you, they've had enough of your stupid shit. But we americans have to jump in, me included, we are the only ones who give you the time of day, thats why you do it.
What you dont know, fool, is we laugh at you and you're stupid remarks. We lead you like a horse to water.
We love to argue, haven't your dumb ass figured that out yet?

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