It's the Guns, Stupid

Apr 20, 2007 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Truthdig

“And that's the end of the issue”

Why do we have the same futile argument every time there is a mass killing? Advocates of gun control try to open a discussion about whether more reasonable weapons statutes might reduce the number of violent ... via Truthdig

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<quoted text>The ancient peoples did have weapons though, even the cave men, some were found on the 'ice man', ever heard of him. Sorry but I cant remember where he was found, he even had arrow heads in the pouch he was carrying. Off the subject a little bit, but still interesting, he had tatoos, so even that artform dates back to prehistoric times. I guess that ole saying is true, the more things change the more they stay the same.
You and the those that ticked your post obviously didn't read my post correctly, if you go back and read it again you will realise that man live a long time without weapons and his survival in the beginning wasn't because of tools or weapons, especially bombs?....Sheesh educating people is soooo hard.

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America was made with firearms! Americans love firearms. Our Founding Fathers kicked ass with firearm so we would not have to live under a tyrranical dictatorship like many countries do. When they rebel the wish they had firearms. Our Nation has been called upon by many countries in Great need of our firearms. Every citizen that does not have a firearm and needs a policeman is only calling a man with a gun because hes to stupid to keep and carry his own firearm. Americans will fight to keep their guns. Any American who does not want a gun is not required to keep one. Its a personal preference and would that should not be taken lightly. Its a God given inalienable right and we will keep our guns forever. Anyone who does not like an Armed Society should get on the first boat or plane and get the fuck outa Dodge. I hate control freaks! And i hate idiots who vote for the socialistic communist inspired bastards too.!
No countries didn't call on you, you bullied your way there or sent your guns and bombs to creat havoc in their countries...Owning guns is not a god given right, if it is show me where it says that in any bible save the one in your mind. If you think that those who follow the law are wrong then move to get rid of your cops and soldiers and see how far you get with your gun...oops now all the anarchist have them....how long do you think YOU would last in such a lawless society...not long I am betting. You would not have a president or a country if the British hadn't given...yes, I said given it back to you...the British along with the Canadians had the president and his men on the run and had taken possession of the presidents mansion....You only got back your country and now white house through the generosity of the British and dare I say Canadian armies.....so how do you like them bickies buddy boy.

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And THANK YOU for further exposing YOUR COMPLETE and TOTAL INVETERATE IGNORANCE!!!
You say that "Humans were not born with tools and weapons strapped to their person (sic)."
BUT, YOU COMPLETELY, and TOTALLY neglect to remark of that facility of which all humans are born: A BRAIN.
GOT BRAINS? No, YOU DO NOT!!
Well, if YOU do possess such, then YOU CERTAINLY DO NOT evince any such with your BLATHERING!!!
Since MOST humans (yourself not included, and that would explain much) have brains, then that matter of TOOLS is foremost, amongst which would be GUNS, KNIVES, and EXPLOSIVES!!!
So then, QUEEN OF STENCH (WHEW!!!) YOU once again have LOST YOUR ARGUMENT!!!
Now, GO AWAY!!! You make me retch!!
Well if most humans were born with a brain how come so many yanks missed out.. so they need guns?

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Good Lord man, get s sense of humor and while you're at get a life
I have clearly shown how wonderful and witty I am on a regular basis, I laugh at you backward yankee yokels daily....what more do you want? Now where is your sense of humor?

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Sir Bucking Fastard wrote:
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And THANK YOU for further exposing YOUR COMPLETE and TOTAL INVETERATE IGNORANCE!!!
You say that "Humans were not born with tools and weapons strapped to their person (sic)."
BUT, YOU COMPLETELY, and TOTALLY neglect to remark of that facility of which all humans are born: A BRAIN.
GOT BRAINS? No, YOU DO NOT!!
Well, if YOU do possess such, then YOU CERTAINLY DO NOT evince any such with your BLATHERING!!!
Since MOST humans (yourself not included, and that would explain much) have brains, then that matter of TOOLS is foremost, amongst which would be GUNS, KNIVES, and EXPLOSIVES!!!
So then, QUEEN OF STENCH (WHEW!!!) YOU once again have LOST YOUR ARGUMENT!!!
Now, GO AWAY!!! You make me retch!!
PS....you really shouldn't shout so much you will have a heart attack, you do have a heart don't you?
it is hard so tell because you yanks aren't normal in the normal sense....if you get my drift pacha!
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No countries didn't call on you, you bullied your way there or sent your guns and bombs to creat havoc in their countries...Owning guns is not a god given right, if it is show me where it says that in any bible save the one in your mind. If you think that those who follow the law are wrong then move to get rid of your cops and soldiers and see how far you get with your gun...oops now all the anarchist have them....how long do you think YOU would last in such a lawless society...not long I am betting. You would not have a president or a country if the British hadn't given...yes, I said given it back to you...the British along with the Canadians had the president and his men on the run and had taken possession of the presidents mansion....You only got back your country and now white house through the generosity of the British and dare I say Canadian armies.....so how do you like them bickies buddy boy.
Short history... Yes, the Brits did burn Washington, but failed to take Baltimore. The Brits that came down from Canada were defeated at the battle of Plattsburgh. The Brits really got their clocks cleaned at the Battle of New Orleans, British killed-386, British wounded-1521, British missing-522. American killed-55, 185 wounded, 93 missing.
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Ooops, looks like that dumb Canadian forgot where his money came from.

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Short history... Yes, the Brits did burn Washington, but failed to take Baltimore. The Brits that came down from Canada were defeated at the battle of Plattsburgh. The Brits really got their clocks cleaned at the Battle of New Orleans, British killed-386, British wounded-1521, British missing-522. American killed-55, 185 wounded, 93 missing.
I know your history well enough to know the British took the presidents mansion and he Madison fled with his troops...the british returned to their ships to continue the ongoing war with Napoleon...so the Americans had to negotiate to get it back....that is the point I was making Teaman, that the Yanks didn't reign militarily supreme as they believe, the If the Brits had wanted to us their military might to control them they would have been controlled, hell even the Canadians out did them in those days because of their British alliance...The British truly couldn't be bothered hanging on to your country, they had bigger fish to fry else you would all be singing god save the Queen.:)

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Ooops, looks like that dumb Canadian forgot where his money came from.
That isn't like you Teaman, I guess the saying about the Americans feeling inferior to the Canadians is true, they have always been the smarter country....I think it is the strong British influence that you lucked out on....:)

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I know your history well enough to know the British took the presidents mansion and he Madison fled with his troops...the british returned to their ships to continue the ongoing war with Napoleon...so the Americans had to negotiate to get it back....that is the point I was making Teaman, that the Yanks didn't reign militarily supreme as they believe, the If the Brits had wanted to us their military might to control them they would have been controlled, hell even the Canadians out did them in those days because of their British alliance...The British truly couldn't be bothered hanging on to your country, they had bigger fish to fry else you would all be singing god save the Queen.:)
Does it matter. They lost. We won. Thats like saying o, we only lost the basketball by one point, it doesnt matter, the outcome is that they lost.
Did you also know that when the brits attacked washington and set it afire that a freak hurricane came, makeing the brits retreat, and actually killed a large number of brits?
Strange, but true.

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I know your history well enough to know the British took the presidents mansion and he Madison fled with his troops...the british returned to their ships to continue the ongoing war with Napoleon...so the Americans had to negotiate to get it back....that is the point I was making Teaman, that the Yanks didn't reign militarily supreme as they believe, the If the Brits had wanted to us their military might to control them they would have been controlled, hell even the Canadians out did them in those days because of their British alliance...The British truly couldn't be bothered hanging on to your country, they had bigger fish to fry else you would all be singing god save the Queen.:)
True, but if the US didn't enter World War 2 Britain would have been speaking German and under the control of Hitler too just like the rest of Europe was under Nazi control.

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Who is The QUICK FIX IT TEAM Melbourne, Australia?

Who is "tagnat"

Who is Taganet342?

Where can we find him?

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<quoted text>True, but if the US didn't enter World War 2 Britain would have been speaking German and under the control of Hitler too just like the rest of Europe was under Nazi control.
Yes, and no. The usa did not save europe single handed. We had help. However, without the help of the usa things could have very well ended differently.
And remember too, we still had the damn japs to deal with.
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Teaman wrote:
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Short history... Yes, the Brits did burn Washington, but failed to take Baltimore. The Brits that came down from Canada were defeated at the battle of Plattsburgh. The Brits really got their clocks cleaned at the Battle of New Orleans, British killed-386, British wounded-1521, British missing-522. American killed-55, 185 wounded, 93 missing.
Was'nt New Orleans a French Possesion? Surely your French allies had a fight too!
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While I cetainly have no intent on doing the whole copy-paste thing like you have I will address the main points.
Failure and REFUSAL to pass a balanced budget and running up deficits to equal the spending every other president COMBINED is the very antithesis of "Fiscal Responsibility".
Total cost of Iraq war including post war military consequent costs = 6 trillion dollars.

How fiscally responsible was that???? and there were no WMD... You are still and will forever be paying that off..
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That isn't like you Teaman, I guess the saying about the Americans feeling inferior to the Canadians is true, they have always been the smarter country....I think it is the strong British influence that you lucked out on....:)
Actually, it is the French, Quebec influence... Both Prime Ministers: Trudeau and Cretian told the US they weren't going to join in any stupid wars...

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Tm Clmns wrote:
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Total cost of Iraq war including post war military consequent costs = 6 trillion dollars.
How fiscally responsible was that???? and there were no WMD... You are still and will forever be paying that off..
True no WMD's were found. But you seem to have forgotten. It was saddam hussein himself who said they had them, and would use them. Also, he used wmd in the iraqi iran war, have you forgotten about that? And he used them on the kurds, have you forgotten about that?
Just bc they weren't found doesnt mean there wasnt any. He had used them twice, had you rather the world until he did it again?
Thats nonesense.

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crawlfish wrote:
<quoted text>Does it matter. They lost. We won. Thats like saying o, we only lost the basketball by one point, it doesnt matter, the outcome is that they lost.
Did you also know that when the brits attacked washington and set it afire that a freak hurricane came, makeing the brits retreat, and actually killed a large number of brits?
Strange, but true.
Of course it matters, not so much to me but to most of you yanks on here who dearly want to believe they are the ones that kicked out the Brits, dream on I say as history records it differently.... Now a win is a battle fought and a winner gets the spoils(the Brits won)...a loss is having to negotiate(the Americans) to get your country back (from the Brits who didn't give a damn about it) and a reliance that the enemy will concede to giving it to you ....The part about the hurricane... it made no difference, the president had high tailed it along with his troops and the Brits left for their want to get back to fighting a war they regarded as more important....you were just annoying mosquito's to them..... Note if it wasn't for the British commander telling his troops to only burn public buildings you wouldn't have any history left, yes I read that in Wikipedia....along with the hurricane story.
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<quoted text>True, but if the US didn't enter World War 2 Britain would have been speaking German and under the control of Hitler too just like the rest of Europe was under Nazi control.
You guys love constructing Myths.. like Hollywood. The US came late to WW2 and it was the Russians that did all the heavy lifting. You got there in time to be in the photographs when the war was over... ok you did some stuff in Italy... but you came in later than everyone else.
Thank god for the Ruskies.... or you would be speaking German too.....

You guys are only good when you have bombs to drop from thousands of feet in the air.
Like Iraq, shock and awe..

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