It's the Guns, Stupid

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Why do we have the same futile argument every time there is a mass killing? Advocates of gun control try to open a discussion about whether more reasonable weapons statutes might reduce the number of violent ... via Truthdig

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Since: Feb 13

Ashburn, VA

#103083 Mar 25, 2013
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The LEVI Busters

Tempe, AZ

#103084 Mar 25, 2013
crawlfish wrote:
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Since: Feb 13

United States

#103085 Mar 25, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>True, but if the US didn't enter World War 2 Britain would have been speaking German and under the control of Hitler too just like the rest of Europe was under Nazi control.
Yes, and no. The usa did not save europe single handed. We had help. However, without the help of the usa things could have very well ended differently.
And remember too, we still had the damn japs to deal with.
GoGoBar

Thailand

#103086 Mar 25, 2013
Teaman wrote:
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Short history... Yes, the Brits did burn Washington, but failed to take Baltimore. The Brits that came down from Canada were defeated at the battle of Plattsburgh. The Brits really got their clocks cleaned at the Battle of New Orleans, British killed-386, British wounded-1521, British missing-522. American killed-55, 185 wounded, 93 missing.
Was'nt New Orleans a French Possesion? Surely your French allies had a fight too!
Tm Clmns

Victoria, Canada

#103087 Mar 25, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
<quoted text>
While I cetainly have no intent on doing the whole copy-paste thing like you have I will address the main points.
Failure and REFUSAL to pass a balanced budget and running up deficits to equal the spending every other president COMBINED is the very antithesis of "Fiscal Responsibility".
Total cost of Iraq war including post war military consequent costs = 6 trillion dollars.

How fiscally responsible was that???? and there were no WMD... You are still and will forever be paying that off..
Tm Clmns

Victoria, Canada

#103088 Mar 25, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
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That isn't like you Teaman, I guess the saying about the Americans feeling inferior to the Canadians is true, they have always been the smarter country....I think it is the strong British influence that you lucked out on....:)
Actually, it is the French, Quebec influence... Both Prime Ministers: Trudeau and Cretian told the US they weren't going to join in any stupid wars...

Since: Feb 13

United States

#103089 Mar 25, 2013
Tm Clmns wrote:
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Total cost of Iraq war including post war military consequent costs = 6 trillion dollars.
How fiscally responsible was that???? and there were no WMD... You are still and will forever be paying that off..
True no WMD's were found. But you seem to have forgotten. It was saddam hussein himself who said they had them, and would use them. Also, he used wmd in the iraqi iran war, have you forgotten about that? And he used them on the kurds, have you forgotten about that?
Just bc they weren't found doesnt mean there wasnt any. He had used them twice, had you rather the world until he did it again?
Thats nonesense.

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#103090 Mar 25, 2013
crawlfish wrote:
<quoted text>Does it matter. They lost. We won. Thats like saying o, we only lost the basketball by one point, it doesnt matter, the outcome is that they lost.
Did you also know that when the brits attacked washington and set it afire that a freak hurricane came, makeing the brits retreat, and actually killed a large number of brits?
Strange, but true.
Of course it matters, not so much to me but to most of you yanks on here who dearly want to believe they are the ones that kicked out the Brits, dream on I say as history records it differently.... Now a win is a battle fought and a winner gets the spoils(the Brits won)...a loss is having to negotiate(the Americans) to get your country back (from the Brits who didn't give a damn about it) and a reliance that the enemy will concede to giving it to you ....The part about the hurricane... it made no difference, the president had high tailed it along with his troops and the Brits left for their want to get back to fighting a war they regarded as more important....you were just annoying mosquito's to them..... Note if it wasn't for the British commander telling his troops to only burn public buildings you wouldn't have any history left, yes I read that in Wikipedia....along with the hurricane story.
Tm Clmns

Victoria, Canada

#103091 Mar 25, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>True, but if the US didn't enter World War 2 Britain would have been speaking German and under the control of Hitler too just like the rest of Europe was under Nazi control.
You guys love constructing Myths.. like Hollywood. The US came late to WW2 and it was the Russians that did all the heavy lifting. You got there in time to be in the photographs when the war was over... ok you did some stuff in Italy... but you came in later than everyone else.
Thank god for the Ruskies.... or you would be speaking German too.....

You guys are only good when you have bombs to drop from thousands of feet in the air.
Like Iraq, shock and awe..

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#103092 Mar 25, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>True, but if the US didn't enter World War 2 Britain would have been speaking German and under the control of Hitler too just like the rest of Europe was under Nazi control.
If the Brits had have hung onto your country when they too the mansion it would be "the British you" saying that you won the war single handed, which would be more true...your forefathers were Brits you know?

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#103093 Mar 25, 2013
crawlfish wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, and no. The usa did not save europe single handed. We had help. However, without the help of the usa things could have very well ended differently.
And remember too, we still had the damn japs to deal with.
Right the US had Japan to deal with too where as Britain only had Hitler and Britain had Russia helping them too on the eastern front dealing with Hitler too but there was British Soldiers too in the Pacific Theater.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_War

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#103094 Mar 25, 2013
crawlfish wrote:
<quoted text>True no WMD's were found. But you seem to have forgotten. It was saddam hussein himself who said they had them, and would use them. Also, he used wmd in the iraqi iran war, have you forgotten about that? And he used them on the kurds, have you forgotten about that?
Just bc they weren't found doesnt mean there wasnt any. He had used them twice, had you rather the world until he did it again?
Thats nonesense.
And it was the Yanks who gave them to him and the yanks who helped him get them.....have you conveniently forgotten about that....It is not Hussein stupid, it is the bombs and gas and America...

Since: Feb 13

United States

#103096 Mar 25, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course it matters, not so much to me but to most of you yanks on here who dearly want to believe they are the ones that kicked out the Brits, dream on I say as history records it differently.... Now a win is a battle fought and a winner gets the spoils(the Brits won)...a loss is having to negotiate(the Americans) to get your country back (from the Brits who didn't give a damn about it) and a reliance that the enemy will concede to giving it to you ....The part about the hurricane... it made no difference, the president had high tailed it along with his troops and the Brits left for their want to get back to fighting a war they regarded as more important....you were just annoying mosquito's to them..... Note if it wasn't for the British commander telling his troops to only burn public buildings you wouldn't have any history left, yes I read that in Wikipedia....along with the hurricane story.
Really, seems to me like the brits tried it again, in the war of 1812 as they renigged on their treaty, and again was defeated. What negotiations are you talking about? Not saying it didnt happen, I guess I missed school that day. Anyway, that was then, this is now.
I do not speak with a british accent, nor is the union jack on my flag. To me, that says independence. That's all that matters.
I guess what I'm trying to say is is that its the total final outcome that matters.
And, we dont sing God save the Queen, that, is the final outcome.

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#103097 Mar 25, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Right the US had Japan to deal with too where as Britain only had Hitler and Britain had Russia helping them too on the eastern front dealing with Hitler too but there was British Soldiers too in the Pacific Theater.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_War
Jesus Christ man the British military and England had been devastated by years of constant bombing, you got bombed once in Pearl Harbour by the Japanese and you cry about it...you shouldn't have put all your eggs in one basket perhaps?

Since: Feb 13

United States

#103098 Mar 25, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
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Jesus Christ man the British military and England had been devastated by years of constant bombing, you got bombed once in Pearl Harbour by the Japanese and you cry about it...you shouldn't have put all your eggs in one basket perhaps?
That man wasnt crying. He was stateing a fact.
Why are you such a bitch?
You cannot comment on anything without throwing some kind of slur.
Is that how you get your rocks off?
Is that the only satifaction you get outta life?
Seems like you cant hold a conversation without such shit, tht doesnt show intelligence, that shows someone who is pulling straws, trying to look intelligent while hideing the truth that you're the biggest nitwit here.
Every time an american says something you jump in with some jerk remark, and its only bc americans talk back to ya, I've noticed tht.
The aussies ignor you, they've had enough of your stupid shit. But we americans have to jump in, me included, we are the only ones who give you the time of day, thats why you do it.
What you dont know, fool, is we laugh at you and you're stupid remarks. We lead you like a horse to water.
We love to argue, haven't your dumb ass figured that out yet?

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#103099 Mar 25, 2013
crawlfish wrote:
<quoted text>Really, seems to me like the brits tried it again, in the war of 1812 as they renigged on their treaty, and again was defeated. What negotiations are you talking about? Not saying it didnt happen, I guess I missed school that day. Anyway, that was then, this is now.
I do not speak with a british accent, nor is the union jack on my flag. To me, that says independence. That's all that matters.
I guess what I'm trying to say is is that its the total final outcome that matters.
And, we dont sing God save the Queen, that, is the final outcome.
You must have missed school a lot, but then that is why we tend to think of you as being the retarded cousins of Canada...Just because you don't sing god save the queen and you don't have a union jack on your flag or you have that annoying hilbilly accent, does not mean the pilgrim fathers and mothers weren't British, silly billy.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#103100 Mar 25, 2013
Tm Clmns wrote:
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You guys love constructing Myths.. like Hollywood. The US came late to WW2 and it was the Russians that did all the heavy lifting. You got there in time to be in the photographs when the war was over... ok you did some stuff in Italy... but you came in later than everyone else.
Thank god for the Ruskies.... or you would be speaking German too.....
You guys are only good when you have bombs to drop from thousands of feet in the air.
Like Iraq, shock and awe..
Right the US came late in the European theatre that is true but Hitler and Stalin actually made a pack there for a while which the US and Britain feared but here is the US there was actually supporters of Hitler who actually built a place for Hitler to operate from after the war.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-21166...

European Theatre of World War II

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Theatre...

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#103101 Mar 25, 2013
crawlfish wrote:
<quoted text>That man wasnt crying. He was stateing a fact.
Why are you such a bitch?
You cannot comment on anything without throwing some kind of slur.
Is that how you get your rocks off?
Is that the only satifaction you get outta life?
Seems like you cant hold a conversation without such shit, tht doesnt show intelligence, that shows someone who is pulling straws, trying to look intelligent while hideing the truth that you're the biggest nitwit here.
Every time an american says something you jump in with some jerk remark, and its only bc americans talk back to ya, I've noticed tht.
The aussies ignor you, they've had enough of your stupid shit. But we americans have to jump in, me included, we are the only ones who give you the time of day, thats why you do it.
What you dont know, fool, is we laugh at you and you're stupid remarks. We lead you like a horse to water.
We love to argue, haven't your dumb ass figured that out yet?
You seem a tad upset?
The T_Pix Busters

Tempe, AZ

#103102 Mar 25, 2013
crawlfish wrote:
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Pereira, Colombia

#103104 Mar 25, 2013
The T_Pix Busters wrote:
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GO AWAY,, DO NOT POST - Your questionnaire is still in preparation.
F*ck off mauritian malbar homo.

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