It's the Guns, Stupid

It's the Guns, Stupid

There are 103299 comments on the Truthdig story from Apr 20, 2007, titled It's the Guns, Stupid. In it, Truthdig reports that:

“And that's the end of the issue”

Why do we have the same futile argument every time there is a mass killing? Advocates of gun control try to open a discussion about whether more reasonable weapons statutes might reduce the number of violent ... via Truthdig

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Teaman

Abingdon, VA

#99271 Feb 1, 2013
Spocko wrote:
The new NRA slogan: We have the right to own politicians!
Firearms exist to manage situations where rationality has failed, so thinking rationally about them can be hard if not impossible. That's why it is so difficult to argue with most gun-rights advocates – they are not rational. They're a bunch of scared people, led by the NRA, frightened of the world and their ability to manage it. I'm not talking about people who hunt or enjoy target practice; I'm talking about the cult of maximum firepower types. Guns that exist for the sole purpose of killing large numbers of people as rapidly as possible have no place in public hands and should be banned or, at least, left at the shooting range! if you can’t agree with that, well ... you got some serious mental issues!
Rational is another word for agreeing with you, right?
LEVI

United States

#99272 Feb 1, 2013
BTW, I cant believe you said that the usa would had joined the war earlier that perhaps all those jew wouldnt had died. Are you seriously trying to blame the holocaust on america? LMAO
Maybe you should study your own histroy of ww2. Sure, there was japaneese resistance in thailand by some govt repersenatives and some civilans, however, as a whole, the govt of thailand was an ally with japan. And even declared war on the usa. However, at the time, the ambassor of the thai govt refused to deliver the document in washington. Still, nevertheless, the thai govt was an ally of the axis, thus gogogbar, basically, your govt was also responsible for the holocaust, and also, the rape and prilmerges of china.
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#99273 Feb 1, 2013
Teaman wrote:
<quoted text>
Rational is another word for agreeing with you, right?
No not hardly!

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#99274 Feb 1, 2013
Spocko wrote:
The new NRA slogan: We have the right to own politicians!
Firearms exist to manage situations where rationality has failed, so thinking rationally about them can be hard if not impossible. That's why it is so difficult to argue with most gun-rights advocates – they are not rational. They're a bunch of scared people, led by the NRA, frightened of the world and their ability to manage it. I'm not talking about people who hunt or enjoy target practice; I'm talking about the cult of maximum firepower types. Guns that exist for the sole purpose of killing large numbers of people as rapidly as possible have no place in public hands and should be banned or, at least, left at the shooting range! if you can’t agree with that, well ... you got some serious mental issues!
thats wall streets slogan too and proved that with TARP.
LEVI

United States

#99275 Feb 1, 2013
Actually, the american people own the politicans. They work for us. However, someone forgot to tell this to the politicans.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#99276 Feb 1, 2013
LEVI wrote:
Actually, the american people own the politicans. They work for us. However, someone forgot to tell this to the politicans.
we just elect them.

“Topix is lowlife scum with no”

Since: Jun 12

respect for anyone...

#99277 Feb 1, 2013
Teaman wrote:
<quoted text>
What is the enlistment age for military service? Are they young hands?
17 I think it is here.
I'd call that young.
GoGoBar

Chiang Mai, Thailand

#99278 Feb 1, 2013
LEVI wrote:
BTW, I cant believe you said that the usa would had joined the war earlier that perhaps all those jew wouldnt had died. Are you seriously trying to blame the holocaust on america? LMAO
Maybe you should study your own histroy of ww2. Sure, there was japaneese resistance in thailand by some govt repersenatives and some civilans, however, as a whole, the govt of thailand was an ally with japan. And even declared war on the usa. However, at the time, the ambassor of the thai govt refused to deliver the document in washington. Still, nevertheless, the thai govt was an ally of the axis, thus gogogbar, basically, your govt was also responsible for the holocaust, and also, the rape and prilmerges of china.
Japan.LOL. Not even the colonised Phillipines with the strength and might of the US Army led by the brilliant McArtur could withstand the Japanese. The mighty McArtur had to flee to the safe haven of Australia.
Is the Phillipines culpable also?

I love it when the USA likes to compare itself to 2nd world countries.

Us Muerder rate 4.8/100K
Thai..........4.8/100K
Why?
LEVI

United States

#99279 Feb 1, 2013
GoGoBar wrote:
<quoted text>
Japan.LOL. Not even the colonised Phillipines with the strength and might of the US Army led by the brilliant McArtur could withstand the Japanese. The mighty McArtur had to flee to the safe haven of Australia.
Is the Phillipines culpable also?
I love it when the USA likes to compare itself to 2nd world countries.
Us Muerder rate 4.8/100K
Thai..........4.8/100K
Why?
I see you conveintely ignor the facts I posted about thailand, and also the facts that I posted about thailands role in ww2, you're good at that.
1st world country, 2nd, 3rd, it doesnt matter, right is right, wrong is wrong. However, i guess thailand and youself see things differetnly, not surprinsely.
Now since you have, and continue to critize the usa and other western nations, how about us talk about whats wrong and corrupt with the thai military?
Wanna go there gogobar? Im sure some fellow thailander would love to forward your comments to the military.LOL
Okay, I will give you the first say. Now, about that military of yours, you start.
LEVI

United States

#99280 Feb 1, 2013
You never mentioned the child slave trade either. Whats wrong gogobar, arent the children of thailand just as important as american children?
LEVI

United States

#99282 Feb 1, 2013
Gogobar, where did you go. you always respond to my post so quickly, until now, its been almost an hour. Are you okay. you're military hasnt come knocking on your door has it?
Are perhaps you're out doing the right thing and trying to stop all this child sex slave trade, or this human trafficking?
LEVI

United States

#99283 Feb 1, 2013
Gogobar, you get on here and roar like a lion, now you behave like a mouse.
Guppy

Bloomfield Hills, MI

#99284 Feb 1, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Military Keynesianism(Government Spending that benefits Wall Street) & the US Economy.
Military Keynesianism is the theory that John Maynard Keynes advocated government economic policy in which the government devotes large amounts of spending to the military in an effort to increase economic growth.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Keynesi...
Not every war helps the economy.
Guppy

Bloomfield Hills, MI

#99285 Feb 1, 2013
_0rion_ wrote:
<quoted text>
17 I think it is here.
I'd call that young.
The military is a great place for boys who have no where else to go. Too bad that they have to go to war.
GoGoBar

Chiang Mai, Thailand

#99286 Feb 1, 2013
LEVI wrote:
<quoted text> I see you conveintely ignor the facts I posted about thailand, and also the facts that I posted about thailands role in ww2, you're good at that.
1st world country, 2nd, 3rd, it doesnt matter, right is right, wrong is wrong. However, i guess thailand and youself see things differetnly, not surprinsely.
Now since you have, and continue to critize the usa and other western nations, how about us talk about whats wrong and corrupt with the thai military?
Wanna go there gogobar? Im sure some fellow thailander would love to forward your comments to the military.LOL
Okay, I will give you the first say. Now, about that military of yours, you start.
We could talk about Thailand but I dont speak the language that competently.
But the reason the murder rate here is very high is because of the guns.
Same as the USA.
GoGoBar

Chiang Mai, Thailand

#99287 Feb 1, 2013
LEVI wrote:
Gogobar, you get on here and roar like a lion, now you behave like a mouse.
A naked 38-year-old American tourist was caught with a 13-year-old prostitute in a “short time” hotel room on Soi 13/1. Undercover police were watching the girl on Beach Road, and later arrested them in the room. The man claimed the girl lied and said she was 19 years old

http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2013/01/29...

LOL.
levi

United States

#99288 Feb 1, 2013
GoGoBar wrote:
<quoted text>
A naked 38-year-old American tourist was caught with a 13-year-old prostitute in a “short time” hotel room on Soi 13/1. Undercover police were watching the girl on Beach Road, and later arrested them in the room. The man claimed the girl lied and said she was 19 years old
http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2013/01/29...
LOL.
And? Whats your point. I never said america didnt have its share of perverts, which is in every country.
Now back to that slave trade and slave sex business in thailand, o, and also, that thai military. Wanna talk about it all? You get first comment, go.
Guppy

Bloomfield Hills, MI

#99289 Feb 1, 2013
GoGoBar wrote:
<quoted text>
A naked 38-year-old American tourist was caught with a 13-year-old prostitute in a “short time” hotel room on Soi 13/1. Undercover police were watching the girl on Beach Road, and later arrested them in the room. The man claimed the girl lied and said she was 19 years old
http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2013/01/29...
LOL.
Men are just down and out creepy. Poor girl - she probably needed the money. Jesus.
GoGoBar

Chiang Mai, Thailand

#99290 Feb 1, 2013
"The Law aint takin my guns"

Neighbors describe Jimmy Lee Dykes, the 65-year-old Vietnam war veteran holding a 6-year-old child hostage in a bunker he constructed underneath his house, as a paranoid and aggressive survivalist who repeatedly threatened his neighbors with firearms.

Tim Byrd, an investigator with the Dale County Sheriff’s office described Dykes to the Southern Poverty Law Center’s Hatewatch blog as a “survivalist” with “anti-America” views and ties to anti-government extremist.

Commuinicating throu a PVC sewage pipe Jimmi Lee has been speaking about his second ammendment rights and the founding fathers intention that guns are for the individual to assert his freedom to do what he goddamn pleases.

“His friends and his neighbors stated that he did not trust the government, that he was a Vietnam vet, and that he had PTSD,” Byrd said.“He was standoffish, didn’t socialize or have any contact with anybody. He was a survivalist type.”
levi

United States

#99291 Feb 1, 2013
GoGoBar wrote:
"The Law aint takin my guns"
Neighbors describe Jimmy Lee Dykes, the 65-year-old Vietnam war veteran holding a 6-year-old child hostage in a bunker he constructed underneath his house, as a paranoid and aggressive survivalist who repeatedly threatened his neighbors with firearms.
Tim Byrd, an investigator with the Dale County Sheriff’s office described Dykes to the Southern Poverty Law Center’s Hatewatch blog as a “survivalist” with “anti-America” views and ties to anti-government extremist.
Commuinicating throu a PVC sewage pipe Jimmi Lee has been speaking about his second ammendment rights and the founding fathers intention that guns are for the individual to assert his freedom to do what he goddamn pleases.
“His friends and his neighbors stated that he did not trust the government, that he was a Vietnam vet, and that he had PTSD,” Byrd said.“He was standoffish, didn’t socialize or have any contact with anybody. He was a survivalist type.”
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