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Senator lied to mom of shooting vic about backing gun laws

There are 327 comments on the New York Daily News story from Apr 19, 2013, titled Senator lied to mom of shooting vic about backing gun laws. In it, New York Daily News reports that:

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“Happiness comes through giving”

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#64 Apr 21, 2013
Sir Bucking Fastard wrote:
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Speaking of yourself now, are you?
:-))
I would reply to your "clever" words, but I seem to have misplaced my fly swatter.

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#65 Apr 21, 2013
downhill246 wrote:
Ah, NRA "Killing bin Laden" commemorative cigars.
Ah, the closest most of the NRA gets to serving this country.

David Keene, draft dodger.
Wayne Lapierre, draft-dodger
Your Ex

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#66 Apr 21, 2013
Sir Bucking Fastard wrote:
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Please do the rest of us here the kindest favour: Present factual evidence in the form of historical documentation which would tend to show that any kind of 'background check' has ever stopped a crime of violence from happening?
And by the way, there is no difference between your party of the Democrat, and the party of the Republican, as any really discernible difference evaporated long ago in your country.
Essentially all you have now is window dressing in the name of keeping you fooled, in your place, and subdued.
Go read Carroll Quigley's 'Tragedy & Hope,' as then you'll get a grasp of the situation as it REALLY exists in the U.S.
The many internal contradictions in this book indicate a confused mind or a shallow thinker. The author's history is mostly stale propaganda, spiced up with occasional pro-government cheerleading or tales of government boondoggles.

Maybe if Quigley had broken this monstrosity into several different books, he would have had something coherent to say. In this book, Quigley's conclusion is almost totally divorced from the rest of the book. This effort spanned 20 years, and possibly senility was sneaking up on the author.

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#67 Apr 21, 2013
As usual the liberal snakes fail to tell the public that the bill now just doesn't have the expanded background checks that most do agree with in it, but has lots of other restrictions hidden inside it like Frankenstein' Feinstein's total ban on assault rifles. Sneaky scum
senior citizen

Granite City, IL

#68 Apr 21, 2013
Some one is telling lies on the 90% of people that are in agreement with background checks. This attached copy and paste shows that the percent of people that believe this will lead to confiscation of guns and NO ONE would vote for this that believe their guns will be confiscated:

25. Do you believe that if there are background checks for all gun purchases the government will or will not use that information in the future to confiscate legally-owned guns?


Confiscate 55%
Will not 28%
N/A 17%

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#69 Apr 21, 2013
starringuandi wrote:
As usual the liberal snakes fail to tell the public that the bill now just doesn't
You can't fix stupidity: the bill proposed last week did not have any amendments attached to it, passing a civics class should be required to post here.

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#70 Apr 21, 2013
senior citizen wrote:
Some one is telling lies on the 90% of people that are in agreement with background checks. This attached copy and paste shows that the percent of people that believe this will lead to confiscation of guns
That's funny: background checks have been part of the USA for over twenty years, and no gun confiscation.

You are a m/f c/s liar, but we knew that already.
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#71 Apr 21, 2013
senior citizen wrote:
Some one is telling lies on the 90% of people that are in agreement with background checks. This attached copy and paste shows that the percent of people that believe this will lead to confiscation of guns and NO ONE would vote for this that believe their guns will be confiscated:
25. Do you believe that if there are background checks for all gun purchases the government will or will not use that information in the future to confiscate legally-owned guns?
Confiscate 55%
Will not 28%
N/A 17%
I've have not seen that poll or the one that says 90% of the people want background checks. I do however have a Gallup poll that says only 4% of Americans think guns are any kind of issue at all. So what we have is 4% and 90%. Something doesn't add up here. In the 90% poll, I would like to see where they asked people, how many people and how the question was presented.

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#72 Apr 21, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
I do however have a Gallup poll that says only 4% of Americans think guns are any kind of issue at all.
You are a m/f c/s liar.

But we know that already.

SO MANY LIES, so little time.

Still waiting for proof that bulletproof vests are illegal, Pinocchio.

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#73 Apr 21, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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You are a m/f c/s liar.
But we know that already.
SO MANY LIES, so little time.
Still waiting for proof that bulletproof vests are illegal, Pinocchio.
do you ever leave the house, son? get out and learn some social skills!

Since: Jun 12

Atlanta, GA

#74 Apr 21, 2013
Gary wrote:
<quoted text>Poll after poll shows that 90% of the American people
favor comprehensive background checks.

If you are not a member of a "well-regulated militia"
you have no right to own a gun. It's constitutional.
You libs think that if you keep repeating lies, it will make them true. If you don't think people should be allowed to have guns, feel free to move your ass to a place that bans them. Good riddance!

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#76 Apr 21, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>do you ever leave the house, son? get out and learn some social skills!
You aren't in the position to teach them, honey.
downhill246

Pompano Beach, FL

#77 Apr 21, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Ah, the closest most of the NRA gets to serving this country.
David Keene, draft dodger.
Wayne Lapierre, draft-dodger
Eight U.S. Presidents have been NRA members. They are Ulysses S. Grant, Theodore Roosevelt, William Howard Taft, Dwight D. Eisenhower, John F. Kennedy, Richard M. Nixon, Ronald Reagan, and George H. W. Bush.
Past members of the NRA include two Vice Presidents of the United States, two Chief Justices of the U.S. Supreme Court.
Past presidents of the association include General Ambrose Burnside, U.S. President Ulysses S. Grant, Charlton Heston, and General Philip H. Sheridan.

Other notables include Olympian Karl Frederick, actress Whoopi Goldberg, civil rights activist Roy Innis, actor James Earl Jones, singer Miranda Lambert, NBA player Karl Malone, screen writer John Milius, actor Chuck Norris, musician Ted Nugent, Governor Sarah Palin, and actor Tom Selleck.
The recently deceased most lethal sniper in US military history, former SEAL Chris Kyle, with 150 confirmed kills and 95 probables, was a life time member of the NRA.

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#78 Apr 21, 2013
Gratisbass wrote:
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You libs think that if you keep repeating lies, it will make them true. If you don't think people should be allowed to have guns, feel free to move your ass to a place that bans them. Good riddance!
If you want to sell guns to felons, you move.

Let's see: there are the ninety percent of us who want background checks, and there are the ten percent that is left. Mostly: felons.
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#79 Apr 21, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>do you ever leave the house, son? get out and learn some social skills!
He's just a troll that spends all his awake time on Topix. He doesn't have a job, doesn't have an education, doesn't read news or anything that may make him just a little smarter. He's just a troll.
Eric Gustafson

Virginia Beach, VA

#80 Apr 21, 2013
So what would be the original point on entry for a weapon provide to Family, Friends or those traded at gun shows other than the Gun Manufactuers in America for of course a profit?

Any legislation to enhance background checks is an opportunity to shrink the market which cuts into Manufactuers profits, and the til to pay Politicians to work in their favor when it comes to legislation.

Like everything else in America politicians loyalty has it's cost. There are only two groups of people tightening of Background checks affect Gun Manufactuers and Criminals.
xxxrayted wrote:
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Oh, you mean kind of like unions. Well, I don't think that's it at all. What I think is that there is a strong movement in this country for people having firearms for protection. In my state of Ohio, our Castle Doctrine and CCW laws were passed by a Democrat Governor. That's with the exception of the latest law that now allows us to carry a firearm in places where alcohol is served. That was signed by Governor Kasich.
According to the statistics I have, Nearly 70% of firearms that are used in crimes came from family, friends or purchased off of the street. Only about 1% or so from gun shows. So having background checks at gun shows won't stop anything. As for the school shooter, Lanza did try to purchase a weapon, but was refused because of his background check. So he killed his mother and stole guns instead.
I'm 52 years old, and recreational narcotics have been illegal my entire life. Yet our prisons are full of users and sellers. Laws only stop non-criminal citizens from getting something. Criminals don't care about the law. That's why they're criminals.
senior citizen

Granite City, IL

#81 Apr 21, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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I've have not seen that poll or the one that says 90% of the people want background checks. I do however have a Gallup poll that says only 4% of Americans think guns are any kind of issue at all. So what we have is 4% and 90%. Something doesn't add up here. In the 90% poll, I would like to see where they asked people, how many people and how the question was presented.
I agree with you. I believe the 90% figure is just a figure that Obama wanted and he has used it. This is just like the "VIDEO" LIES that he put out. I do not believe there were any polls taken from the people to show 90% unless he only polled Chicago. He had a melt down since it was the Senate that it did not pass the bill. I believe he wanted it to pass the Senate so the Reps would have to vote on it and he knew they would not pass it. He could blame the House (Reps) for everything again and try to gain control of the House.
senior citizen

Granite City, IL

#82 Apr 21, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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That's funny: background checks have been part of the USA for over twenty years, and no gun confiscation.
You are a m/f c/s liar, but we knew that already.
You are POTTY MOUTH LIAR. Do you know what all was in that bill? NO you did not. Just like OBAMACARE - do you know what is in that bill? NO you do not.
Eric Gustafson

Virginia Beach, VA

#83 Apr 21, 2013
No, it is not that complicated. the 90% figure comes from poll results. Run by non-political polling organizations.

You guys were touting the results of these and similar polls before the Nov 4 2012 shallacking. Now polls are a foreign concept to you.

The more things change the more they stay the same.
senior citizen wrote:
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I agree with you. I believe the 90% figure is just a figure that Obama wanted and he has used it. This is just like the "VIDEO" LIES that he put out. I do not believe there were any polls taken from the people to show 90% unless he only polled Chicago. He had a melt down since it was the Senate that it did not pass the bill. I believe he wanted it to pass the Senate so the Reps would have to vote on it and he knew they would not pass it. He could blame the House (Reps) for everything again and try to gain control of the House.
downhill246

Pompano Beach, FL

#84 Apr 21, 2013
Mar 19, 2013

New Jersey officials, including police and the Department of Children and Families, are on the defensive today, after they raided the home of Shawn Moore, a firearms instructor for the National Rifle Association, demanding to see his guns after he posted a photo on Facebook of his son, Josh, 11, holding a rifle his father had given him as a birthday present....

"They said they wanted to see into my safe and see if my guns were registered," Moore said. "I said no; in New Jersey, your guns don't have to be registered with the state; it's voluntary. I knew once I opened that safe, there was no going back."

When the police confirmed they did not have a warrant to search his home and after a social worker refused to identify herself, Moore asked the officials to leave.

They adhered to his request.

"To make someone go through this because he posted a picture of his son with a .22 rifle on his Facebook page is pretty outrageous," he said.“Does that mean that anyone who posts a picture like that has to consent to a home inspection and a gun inspection? I don’t think so."

Nappen confirmed the Moores are considering taking legal action against the state.

http://www.examiner.com/article/nra-instructo...

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