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LETTER: Everyone should support universal background checks

There are 83 comments on the Murfreesboro Post story from Nov 10, 2013, titled LETTER: Everyone should support universal background checks. In it, Murfreesboro Post reports that:

This week would be my beautiful niece's birthday. I have a story to share. What would it take for you to support universal background checks for gun ownership? Would it be a mass shooting in a Tennessee school? Your co-worker committing suicide? A loved one getting murdered? A rampage inside a mall during holiday shopping? The twins were 5 months ... (more)

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“Act Interdimensional ly”

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#1 Nov 10, 2013
Inconvenient truth.

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#2 Nov 11, 2013
Interesting. They changed the story associated with my post.

The story I posted about was about how FBI crime statistics decrease as gun ownership increases. A truth that is very inconvenient for those seeking to abridge 2nd Amendment civil rights.

The new story is just another piece of "Do it for the CHILDREN!" faux outrage.
SatanRules

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#3 Nov 11, 2013
Rick Moss wrote:
Interesting. They changed the story associated with my post.
The story I posted about was about how FBI crime statistics decrease as gun ownership increases. A truth that is very inconvenient for those seeking to abridge 2nd Amendment civil rights.
The new story is just another piece of "Do it for the CHILDREN!" faux outrage.
crime decreases as guns increase??? really moron... suggest you explain why the hillbilly gun states top the list then.....they should be at the bottom instead of the top....

The recently released FBI's crime statistics for 2012, once again show the American South dominating the list of states with the highest per capita homicide rates. Louisiana led the nation with a murder rate of 10.8 homicides per 100,000 population. Louisiana's Southern neighbor, Mississippi was second with a homicide rate of 7.4 per 100,000. Alabama (7.1), Michigan (7.0) and South Carolina (6.9) rounded out the top five most murderous U.S. states in 2012. Missouri (6.5), Tennessee (6.0), Georgia and Arkansas also ranked in the top ten states, with Georgia and Arkansas tying for 10th at 5.9 murders per 100,000.

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#4 Nov 11, 2013
SatanRules wrote:
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crime decreases as guns increase???
You might want to argue with the FBI ... it's their national crime numbers saying it does exactly that.

Putting extra questions marks expressing your incredulity doesn't change those numbers.

“shall NOT be infringed”

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#5 Nov 11, 2013
SatanRules wrote:
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crime decreases as guns increase??? really moron... suggest you explain why the hillbilly gun states top the list then.....they should be at the bottom instead of the top....
The recently released FBI's crime statistics for 2012, once again show the American South dominating the list of states with the highest per capita homicide rates. Louisiana led the nation with a murder rate of 10.8 homicides per 100,000 population. Louisiana's Southern neighbor, Mississippi was second with a homicide rate of 7.4 per 100,000. Alabama (7.1), Michigan (7.0) and South Carolina (6.9) rounded out the top five most murderous U.S. states in 2012. Missouri (6.5), Tennessee (6.0), Georgia and Arkansas also ranked in the top ten states, with Georgia and Arkansas tying for 10th at 5.9 murders per 100,000.
United States Crime Rates 1960 - 2011 in relation to Gun Control Laws/NICS Background checks

Sources: Population Figures; Disaster Center:
http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.h...

NICS Figures; FBI:
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics

(Important note: The number of background checks does not equate to the number of firearms sold. As multiple guns; both Long Guns, and Hand Guns, can be purchased during a NICS background check).

The statistics from the chart were gathered from the Disaster Center referenced above. To which were added the last two columns on the right. Which contain information concerning U.S. gun law enactment periods. As well as crime rate variances, and finally; N.I.C.S.,(National Instant Criminal Background Check), numbers,

As it is plain to see, crime rates started a dramatic rise after the 1968 Gun Control Act. During the years 1981-84 crime rates either leveled out or dropped. From 1985-91 the overall crime rate again rose sharply. During the year 1992 the crime rates again leveled. While in 1993 most crime rates had fallen. Which fails to explain the justification for the Unconstitutional “Brady Bill”.

The 'Gun Control' laws that have been unconstitutionally passed have also had an effect on Firearm sales in the United States. According to National Shooting Sports Foundation,(NSSF), and FBI NICS records. Firearms sales have increased by 54.1% between 2002-2011*. Thus making the claim by John Lott in his book; “More Guns, Less Crime”, a statistical FACT.
http://gunshowonthenet.blogspot.com/2013/04/u...

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#6 Nov 11, 2013
Rick Moss wrote:
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You might want to argue with the FBI ... it's their national crime numbers saying it does exactly that.
Funny how no matter how hard you stomp your feet, you can't find the FBI saying exactly anything you post, you lying sack of [email protected]

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#7 Nov 11, 2013
Rick Moss wrote:
Interesting. They changed the story associated with my post.
The story I posted about was about how FBI crime statistics decrease as gun ownership increases..
Funny how crime statistics go up and down as people create them.

English- not your first language, eh?

By the way, gun ownership percentage among household is going DOWN.

Obviously... if gun ownership percentage in household is going DOWN (and it is), it must mean that the correlation is DIRECT.

Fewer households with guns = fewer crimes.

Certainly: fewer women are killed in households that are gun free.

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#8 Nov 11, 2013
2ndAmRight wrote:
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United States Crime Rates 1960 - 2011 in relation to Gun Control
Sshh, dear, don't cause a fuss. I'll have your spam. I love it.
I'm having spam spam spam spam spam spam spam beaked beans spam spam
spam and spam!

“shall NOT be infringed”

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#9 Nov 11, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Funny how no matter how hard you stomp your feet, you can't find the FBI saying exactly anything you post, you lying sack of [email protected]
U.S. Constitution, Article II of Amendment, "Restrictive" clause:

"The Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms shall NOT be infringed."

Why are you and your fellow treasonous trolls crying and screaming to have our right infringed upon? Why do you perversely use deflective BS in the vain attempt to draw people away from the MAIN topic at hand? What do you hope to gain from your vile side-stepping ploys? How much are your 'masters' paying you to betray your fellow citizens? Why do you want to everyone to be enslaved and defenseless?

“shall NOT be infringed”

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#10 Nov 11, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Funny how no matter how hard you stomp your feet, you can't find the FBI saying exactly anything you post, you lying sack of [email protected]
Disarming Realities: As Gun Sales Soar, Gun Crimes Plummet

A couple of new studies reveal the gun-control hypesters’ worst nightmare…more people are buying firearms, while firearm-related homicides and suicides are steadily diminishing. What crackpots came up with these conclusions?

>>>>>One set of statistics was compiled by the U.S. Department of Justice.<<<<<

The other was reported by the Pew Research Center.

According to DOJ’s Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. gun-related homicides dropped 39 percent over the course of 18 years, from 18,253 during 1993, to 11,101 in 2011. During the same period, non-fatal firearm crimes decreased even more, a whopping 69 percent. The majority of those declines in both categories occurred during the first 10 years of that time frame. Firearm homicides declined from 1993 to 1999, rose through 2006, and then declined again through 2011. Non-fatal firearm violence declined from 1993 through 2004, then fluctuated in the mid-to-late 2000s.

And where did the bad people who did the shooting get most of their guns? Were those gun show “loopholes” responsible? Nope....
http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2013/05...

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#11 Nov 11, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Funny how crime statistics go up and down as people create them.
English- not your first language, eh?
By the way, gun ownership percentage among household is going DOWN.
Obviously... if gun ownership percentage in household is going DOWN (and it is), it must mean that the correlation is DIRECT.
Fewer households with guns = fewer crimes.
Certainly: fewer women are killed in households that are gun free.
MILLER: Gun ownership up, crime down
FBI violent-crime rates show safer nation with more gun owners

"Gun-control advocates are noticeably silent when crime rates decline. Their multimillion-dollar lobbying efforts are designed to manufacture mass anxiety that every gun owner is a potential killer. The statistics show otherwise.

"Last week, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) announced that violent crime decreased 4 percent in 2011. The number of murders, rapes, robberies and aggravated assaults all went down, continuing a pattern...."
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/...
PrinceofDarkness

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#12 Nov 11, 2013
2ndAmRight wrote:
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MILLER: Gun ownership up, crime down
FBI violent-crime rates show safer nation with more gun owners
"Gun-control advocates are noticeably silent when crime rates decline. Their multimillion-dollar lobbying efforts are designed to manufacture mass anxiety that every gun owner is a potential killer. The statistics show otherwise.
"Last week, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) announced that violent crime decreased 4 percent in 2011. The number of murders, rapes, robberies and aggravated assaults all went down, continuing a pattern...."
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/...
hasn't helped the hillbilly states much

The recently released FBI's crime statistics for 2012, once again show the American South dominating the list of states with the highest per capita homicide rates. Louisiana led the nation with a murder rate of 10.8 homicides per 100,000 population. Louisiana's Southern neighbor, Mississippi was second with a homicide rate of 7.4 per 100,000. Alabama (7.1), Michigan (7.0) and South Carolina (6.9) rounded out the top five most murderous U.S. states in 2012. Missouri (6.5), Tennessee (6.0), Georgia and Arkansas also ranked in the top ten states, with Georgia and Arkansas tying for 10th at 5.9 murders per 100,000.

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#13 Nov 11, 2013
Not one person in this forum thought for a minute you'd keep your word, Welcher.

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#14 Nov 11, 2013
2ndAmRight wrote:
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MILLER: Gun ownership up, crime down
Percentage of gun ownership going down and has been for years.

It follows the decrease in crime, Welcher.

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#15 Nov 11, 2013
2ndAmRight wrote:
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Disarming Realities: As Gun Sales Soar, Gun Crimes Plummet
A couple of new studies reveal the gun-control hypesters’ worst nightmare…more people are buying firearms
Fewer American households have guns, no matter how hard you stomp your feet, Welcher.

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#16 Nov 11, 2013
PrinceofDarkness wrote:
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hasn't helped the hillbilly states much
The recently released FBI's crime statistics for 2012, once again show the American South dominating the list of states with the highest per capita homicide rates. Louisiana led the nation with a murder rate of 10.8 homicides per 100,000 population. Louisiana's Southern neighbor, Mississippi was second with a homicide rate of 7.4 per 100,000. Alabama (7.1), Michigan (7.0) and South Carolina (6.9) rounded out the top five most murderous U.S. states in 2012. Missouri (6.5), Tennessee (6.0), Georgia and Arkansas also ranked in the top ten states, with Georgia and Arkansas tying for 10th at 5.9 murders per 100,000.
October 26, 2013

Gun Homicide Rates per 100,000 people

1. New Orleans (62.1)
2. Detroit (35.9)
3. Baltimore (29.7)
4. Newark (25.4)
5. Miami (23.7)
6. Washington D.C.(19)
7. Atlanta (17.2)
8. Cleveland (17.4)
9. Buffalo (16.5)
10. Houston (12.9)
11. Chicago (11.6)
12. Phoenix (10.6)
13. Los Angeles (9.2)[Add incorporated cities and it goes UP]
14. Boston (6.2)
15. New York City (4)
http://www.policymic.com/articles/70199/some-...

Of particular interest, is that the VAST MAJORITY of those cities are demonrat strongholds. And well over a third have the most stringent 'gun control' laws in the nation.

“shall NOT be infringed”

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#17 Nov 11, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
Not one person in this forum thought for a minute you'd keep your word, Welcher.
Numbers Don’t Lie: A Fair and Balanced Look at Gun Ownership and Violent Crime in the U.S.

"....Do more guns mean more violent crime?

"When you get down to brass tacks, there is one simple question at the heart of the gun control debate: Does more guns mean more gun crime? Here’s what the statistics say:

"While there is no national database monitoring gun ownership in the United States, statistics from the FBI’s Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) show that the number of background checks for legal guns is at a 14-year high. The NICS has been tracking the number of background checks on legal guns since late 1998.

"So, what exactly does this mean?

"While there’s not necessarily a 1:1 correlation between a gun background check and gun sale, a strong relationship exists between a gun background check and a gun sale, FBI spokesman Steven Fischer told Reuters.

"The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives keeps track of data for guns under the National Firearms Act – which regulates and taxes many of the deadliest weapons. That data shows a record-high 1.1 million regulated firearms were processed in 2012.

"Moreover, a 2011 Gallup survey shows that gun ownership in America is increasing. According to the results, 47 percent of Americans report that they have a gun in their home or elsewhere on their property.” This marks the highest percentage of gun ownership recorded by Gallup since 1993.

"In 1992, the homicide rate was 9.3 per 100,000 people. By 2000, the murder rate had declined to 5.6 per 100,000 people, and, by 2011, shrunken to 4.7 per 100,000 people...."
http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/the-numbers...

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#18 Nov 11, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Fewer American households have guns, no matter how hard you stomp your feet, Welcher.
Funny how ALL of the REAL data proves otherwise, isn't it treasonous troll?

“shall NOT be infringed”

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#19 Nov 11, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Percentage of gun ownership going down and has been for years.
It follows the decrease in crime, Welcher.
That's not what the ACTUAL NUMBERS show, troll. WHY IS THAT?

Obummer has been the best gun salesman this country has EVER seen.

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#20 Nov 11, 2013
2ndAmRight wrote:
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October 26, 2013
Apples to Apples...

1. Tennessee: Violent crimes per 100,000: 643.6
2. Nevada: Violent crimes per 100,000: 607.6
3. Alaska: Violent crimes per 100,000: 603.2
4. New Mexico: Violent crimes per 100,000: 559.1
5. South Carolina:Violent crimes per 100,000: 558.8
6. Delaware: Violent crimes per 100,000: 547.4
7. Louisiana: Violent crimes per 100,000: 496.9
8. Florida: Violent crimes per 100,000: 487.1
9. Maryland: Violent crimes per 100,000: 476.8
10. Oklahoma: Violent crimes per 100,000: 469.3

And no one soul is surprised GayDavy WELCHED on the bet!

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