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Wishful Thinking Is Control Freaks' Last Defense Against 3D-Printed Guns

There are 56 comments on the Quebec Chronicle-Telegraph story from May 9, 2013, titled Wishful Thinking Is Control Freaks' Last Defense Against 3D-Printed Guns. In it, Quebec Chronicle-Telegraph reports that:

After Defense Distributed published video of a successul test of a 3D-printed handgun , the responses came fast and furious: politicians, including Rep.

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Damon

Ashburn, VA

#21 May 10, 2013
correction---democrats

GunShow1

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

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San Jose, CA.

#22 May 10, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Stop spamming the forum, GayDavy.
Maybe you can find time to lift one finger for this country.
Are you a racist?

"Mr CHANLER said:

"Mr Speaker: The following language of Alexander Hamilton, in one his essays (No 5) in the Federalist, seems most appropriate at this time and to this subject:

"It is of great Importance in a republic not only to guard society against the oppression of its rulers, but to guard one part of the society against the injustice of the other part.
"Justice is the end of government. It is the of civil society. It ever has been and ever will be pursued until it be obtained, or until liberty be lost in the pursuit.
"In a society in which tbe stronger faction can readily unite to oppress the weaker, anarchy may as truly be said to reign as In a state of nature, where the weaker individual is not secured the violence of the stronger." ...

"...Hon.[George] Michael Hahn of Louisiana a speech delivered before the Equal Suffrage Association of Washington on Friday November 17, 1865 says:

"Fellow citizens, while we strive to secure the object we have in view--the right of suffrage to American citizens, regardless of color--we must overcome obstacles and difficulties of a serious character which still beset us and the continued existence of which may threaten to prevent our Immediate success. It in necessary, in beginning our work to see that slavery throughout the land is effectually abolished and that the freedmen are protected in their freedom, and in all the advantages and privileges inseparable from the condition of freedom."

And again:

"The right of the people to keep and bear arms" must be so understood as not to exclude the colored man from the term 'people.'"

[George Michael Hahn,(November 24, 1830- March 15, 1886), was the 19th Governor of Louisiana, Congressman, United States Senator during Reconstruction and after.An adherent of the Union, Hahn became the U. S. Representative from the Louisiana's 2nd congressional district in 1862. Hahn was one of two Louisiana Representatives seated in the 37th Congress which adjourned on 1863 March 4. Eventually, Hahn advised that there should be no more representation from Louisiana until it was reconstructed. During his time in Washington, Hahn met and befriended President Abraham Lincoln.]

- SPEECH OF HON. JOHN W. CHANLER, OF NEW YORK. Delivered in the U.S. House of Representatives January 12 1866.(Chanler,(September 14, 1826 – October 19, 1877) was elected as a Democrat to the Thirty-eighth, Thirty-ninth, and Fortieth United States Congresses, serving from March 4, 1863 to March 3, 1869).

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#23 May 10, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Drool spewer.
wipe your chin, GayDavy, flies...

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#24 May 10, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
"Mr CHANLER said:
Vikings: Spam! Lovely spam! Lovely spam!

GunShow1

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#25 May 10, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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wipe your chin, GayDavy, flies...
"Sir, I am obliged to pass by, for want of time other grave and dangerous infractions and usurpations of the President since the fourth of March. I only allude casually to the quartering of soldiers in private houses without the consent of the owners, and without any manner having been prescribed by law; to the subversion in a part at least of Maryland of her own State government and the authorities under it: to the censorship over the telegraph, and the infringement repeatedly, in one or more of the States, of the right of the people to keep and to bear arms for their defense. But if all these things, I ask, have been done in the first two months after the commencement of this war, and by men not military chieftains and unused to arbitrary power, what may we not expect to see in three years, and by the successful heroes of the fight? Sir, the power and rights of the States and the people, and of their Representatives, have been usurped; the sanctity of the private house and of private property has been invaded; and the liberty of the person wantonly and wickedly stricken down; free speech, too, has been repeatedly denied; arid all this under the plea of necessity. Sir, the right of petition will follow next--nay, it has already been shaken; the freedom of the press will soon fall after it; and let me whisper in your ear, that there will be few to mourn over its loss, unless, indeed, its ancient high and honorable character shall be rescued and redeemed from its present reckless mendacity and degradation. Freedom of religion will yield too, at last, amid the exultant shouts millions, who have seen its holy temples defiled and its white robes of a former innocency trampled now under the polluting hoofs of an ambitious and faithless or fanatical clergy. Meantime national banks, bankrupt laws, a vast and permanent public debt, high tariffs, heavy direct tax[a]tion, enormous expenditure, gigantic and stupendous peculation, anarchy first and a strong government afterwards, no more State lines, no more State governments, and a consolidated monarchy or vast centralized military despotism, must all follow in the history of the future, as in the history of the past they have, centuries ago, been written."--Mr. Clement L. Vallandigham, July 10, 1861. U.S. House of Representatives, The Congressional Globe Pg. 60.

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#26 May 10, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
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"Sir,
Vikings: Spam spam spam spam...

PS: your hero was an avowed racist and opposed the liberation of slaves.

GunShow1

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#27 May 10, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
Vikings: Spam spam spam spam...
PS: your hero was an avowed racist and opposed the liberation of slaves.
Yet >you< want to bring EVERYONE back under the bondage of SLAVERY? Tell us why THAT is, LIE-beral traitor-troll?

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#28 May 10, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
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Yet >you< want to bring EVERYONE back under the bondage of SLAVERY?
Anything you say, GayDavy.

GunShow1

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#29 May 10, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Anything you say, GayDavy.
Here you go, vile traitor-troll:

"Another charge is, that the President has violated the Constitution of the United States in this: that he has disarmed citizens; refused them the privilege, under the Constitution, of bearing arms. Sir, it is true that he has refused traitors the privilege of using arms against the Government of the country. General Lyon, of Missouri, and the gallant Frank Blair, and their associates, did disarm some fifteen hundred rebels at Camp Jackson, near St. Louis; and for that we are told they are violators of the Constitution. What other instance does the Senator from Kentucky remember in which the right to bear arms been refused to any citizen? The President has not only guarantied, by his action, the right to bear arms, but he has invited the patriotic citizens of the United States to bear arms for the only noble purpose for which men can take arms--in defense of the Constitution and liberties of people. Is the right to bear arms in Kentucky so sacred that it may never be violated? Then, why do you not bear arms in defense of the Constitution and liberties of the Republic? There is a right to bear arms that is worth something. Does Kentucky stand upon the right to arms? Why is she not bearing arms upon the battle-field to-day, beside Massachusetts and Indiana and Ohio, and the loyal States? Why does she not insist upon her right to bear arms, when traitors are seeking to tear down the Government under which we live?"

- Senator James H. Lane, of Indiana, July 16, 1861, The Congressional Globe, Pg. 143.(James Henry Lane also known as Jim Lane,(June 22, 1814 – July 11, 1866), served as a United States Senator and as a general who fought for the Union).

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#30 May 11, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
"Another charge is
Vikings: Spam spam spam spam...

GunShow1

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

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San Jose, CA.

#31 May 11, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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...
“The best definition of citizen, according to European writers, which I have been able to find, is a "native or inhabitant of a city vested with its freedom and liberties." The "freedom and liberties," or "privileges and immunities," essential to a citizen, were those I have mentioned; and although the name was original confined to the inhabitant of a city, yet when these principles were diffused among, and conferred on, the inhabitants of the country, they, having the same attributes, took the name. The rights of an American citizen are essentially the same: to elect, be elected, and bear arms in his defence; they are essential, for, divest him of these, and you divest him of his citizenship. He has other essential rights, those of property and personal security under the protection of laws fairly administered; but he has these in common with foreigners, and in some respects with slaves."

- Senator John Holmes, of Maine, Dec. 9, 1820.[Abridgment of the Debates of Congress, from 1789 to 1856. FROM GALES AND BEATON'S ANNALS OF CONGRESS, FROM THEIR REGISTER OF DEBATES; AND FROM THE OFFICIAL REPORTED DEBATES, BY JOHN C RIVES. Pg. 681.(John Holmes (March 14, 1773 – July 7, 1843) was an American politician. He served as a U.S. Representative from Massachusetts and was one of the first two U.S. Senators from Maine).
One

Huntsville, AL

#32 May 11, 2013
thing about Gunblow. He posts a lot but none of it has anything to with anything. So you can click past it without thinking you are missing anything.

Whoever is paying him is as dumb as that Adelson guy who Rove et al. dry-hustled for millions in 2012.

GunShow1

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#33 May 11, 2013
One wrote:
thing about Gunblow. He posts a lot but none of it has anything to with anything. So you can click past it without thinking you are missing anything.
Whoever is paying him is as dumb as that Adelson guy who Rove et al. dry-hustled for millions in 2012.
Then you are even more ignorant than you first appear.

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#34 May 11, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
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“The best definition
The GayDavy menu:
Egg and Bacon;

Egg, sausage and Bacon;

Egg and Spam;

Spam Egg Sausage and Spam;

Egg, Bacon and Spam;

Egg, Bacon, sausage and Spam;

Spam, Bacon, sausage and Spam;

Spam, Egg, Spam, Spam, Bacon and Spam;

Spam, Spam, Spam, Egg and Spam;

Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, baked beans, Spam, Spam, Spam and Spam;

Lobster Thermidor aux crevettes with a Mornay sauce, served in a Provencale manner with shallots and aubergines, garnished with truffle pâté, brandy and a fried egg on top and Spam

GunShow1

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#35 May 11, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
Drool
"A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." I ask the committee to pause for a moment and to reflect on the character of these prohibitions. What must have been the jealousy of those who deemed it necessary to guard against the abuse of power, by such restrictions, on a Government of limited, defined, and delegated authority? Under what pretence could Congress dare to interfere with affairs of religion--with the freedom of speech or of the press? Under what state of things could it be presumed to be necessary for the sovereign people of the United States to retain to themselves the poor privilege of assembling peaceably to petition, not their sovereign lords and masters, but their public servants and agents, for a redress of grievances? To what daring usurpations must they have looked, when it was deemed necessary to secure freemen the privilege of keeping and bearing arms? But, sir, constitutional securities against the abuse of power, of delegated and limited power, seem to be but beautiful and splendid illusions."

- U.S. Rep. James Johnson, of Virginia, Feb. 10, 1820,[Abridgment of the Debates of Congress, from 1789 to 1856. FROM GALES AND BEATON'S ANNALS OF CONGRESS, FROM THEIR REGISTER OF DEBATES; AND FROM THE OFFICIAL REPORTED DEBATES, BY JOHN C RIVES. Pgs. 545-46]

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#36 May 11, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
<quoted text>
"A well-regulated militia ]
The GayDavy menu:
Egg and Bacon;

Egg, sausage and Bacon;

Egg and Spam;

Spam Egg Sausage and Spam;

Egg, Bacon and Spam;

Egg, Bacon, sausage and Spam;

Spam, Bacon, sausage and Spam;

Spam, Egg, Spam, Spam, Bacon and Spam;

Spam, Spam, Spam, Egg and Spam;

Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, baked beans, Spam, Spam, Spam and Spam;

Lobster Thermidor aux crevettes with a Mornay sauce, served in a Provencale manner with shallots and aubergines, garnished with truffle pâté, brandy and a fried egg on top and Spam
JADE LOUISE

UK

#37 May 11, 2013


WATCH MY VIDEO COVERING THIS TOPIC

GunShow1

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#38 May 11, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
The GayDavy menu:
Egg and Bacon;
Egg, sausage and Bacon;
Egg and Spam;
Spam Egg Sausage and Spam;
Egg, Bacon and Spam;
Egg, Bacon, sausage and Spam;
Spam, Bacon, sausage and Spam;
Spam, Egg, Spam, Spam, Bacon and Spam;
Spam, Spam, Spam, Egg and Spam;
Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, baked beans, Spam, Spam, Spam and Spam;
Lobster Thermidor aux crevettes with a Mornay sauce, served in a Provencale manner with shallots and aubergines, garnished with truffle pâté, brandy and a fried egg on top and Spam
"To what daring usurpations must they have looked, when it was deemed necessary to secure freemen the privilege of keeping and bearing arms? But, sir, constitutional securities against the abuse of power, of delegated and limited power, seem to be but beautiful and splendid illusions."

- U.S. Rep. James Johnson, of Virginia, Feb. 10, 1820,[Abridgment of the Debates of Congress, from 1789 to 1856. FROM GALES AND BEATON'S ANNALS OF CONGRESS, FROM THEIR REGISTER OF DEBATES; AND FROM THE OFFICIAL REPORTED DEBATES, BY JOHN C RIVES. Pgs. 545-46]

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#39 May 11, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
<quoted text>
"To what daring usurpations
Vikings: Spam! Lovely spam! Lovely spam!

GunShow1

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#40 May 11, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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V!
Hey, democtat party HYPOCRITES.

Care to explain THIS?

BUCHANAN AND BRECKINRIDGE

THE DEMOCRATIC HAND-BOOK,

COMPILED BY

MICH. W. CLUSKEY,

OF

WASHINGTON CITY, D.C.

RECOMMENDED BY THE

DEMOCRATIC MATIONAL COMMITTEE.

The success of the Democracy essential for the preservation of the Union and the protection of the integrity of the Constitution

WASHINGTON:

PRINTED BY R.A. WATERS
1856

Mr. COLFAX. What is the date of that?

Mr. STEPHENS. Last November. Now ....

"... I will not go to the gentleman's State, or to any other gentleman's State, to find laws that I do not approve. We have plenty of them in my own State. And the gentleman ought to feel highly blessed if he has none in Indiana that he disapproves. We have a great many in Georgia I do not approve. There is one in particular which I fought in the legislature and opposed before the courts with all the power that I had. It was a law making it penal to bear concealed deadly weapons. I am individually opposed to bearing such weapons. I never bear weapons of any sort; but I believed that it was the constitutional right of every American citizen to bear arms if he chooses, and just such arms, and in just such way, as he chooses. I thought that it was the birthright of every Georgian to do it. I was defeated in our legislature. I was defeated before our courts. The question went up to the highest judicial tribunal in our State, the Supreme Court*, which sustained the law..." [*Nunn v. State, 1 Ga.(1 Kel.) 243 (1846).]

[Hon. Alexander H. Stephens, June 28, 1856, U.S. House of Representatives.(Mr. Stephens served as a U.S. Representative from Georgia,(before and after the Civil War). He was also Vice President of the Confederate States of America, and the 50th Governor of Georgia from 1882 until his death in 1883).]

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