Fight the NRA: 28,117 gun deaths sinc...

Fight the NRA: 28,117 gun deaths since Sandy Hook must be remembered

There are 438 comments on the Salon story from Oct 25, 2013, titled Fight the NRA: 28,117 gun deaths since Sandy Hook must be remembered. In it, Salon reports that:

As of this week, estimates are that 28,177 Americans have died of gun violence since the Newtown, Conn., school shootings.

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Gun Control Does Not Work

United States

#195 Nov 6, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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It's basic math, dipsh!t.
Take all the guns there are in the USA today, and subtract the new guns... and you end up with the old guns.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
And if you want to insist that more guns means lower crime, then crime wilo ALWAYS go down when the number of guns go UP.
HAHAHAHAAHAHAH!
Still waiting: how does a person own slaves oppose slavery?
Still waiting: how is a person who is trying to overthrow the US government not a traitor?
I am sure criminals, street thugs, crazies, and gang bangers will be lined up to turn in their already illegal firearms. Anyone who believes this gets the libtard azz clown award.
Gun Control Does Not Work

United States

#196 Nov 6, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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What is known, Sweet Pea: Little Alec was a slave owner.
Libtard spin you have no proof of this.

“shall NOT be infringed”

Since: Oct 13

Phoenix

#197 Nov 6, 2013
Gun Control Does Not Work wrote:
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Libtard spin you have no proof of this.
HaHa! You tore her a new one with your last few posts! Hat-tip.
Gun Control Does Not Work

United States

#198 Nov 6, 2013
2ndAmRight wrote:
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HaHa! You tore her a new one with your last few posts! Hat-tip.
Thanks.. I really get a kick out of bareazz and the rest of these social liberals. They get sssooooo frustrated just trying to take our rights away. We all realize here that nobody is ever going to take firearms away from law abiding citizens. It is never going to happen no matter how they cheat in elections, no matter had many tantrums they thrown, insults they sling, and false data or lies they post. It will will never happen; they know it, and we know it.

“shall NOT be infringed”

Since: Oct 13

Phoenix

#199 Nov 6, 2013
Gun Control Does Not Work wrote:
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Thanks.. I really get a kick out of bareazz and the rest of these social liberals. They get sssooooo frustrated just trying to take our rights away. We all realize here that nobody is ever going to take firearms away from law abiding citizens. It is never going to happen no matter how they cheat in elections, no matter had many tantrums they thrown, insults they sling, and false data or lies they post. It will will never happen; they know it, and we know it.
Indeed. As the last two rulings of the U.S. Supreme Court have shown most conclusively. Now if the court will just address the "shall not be infringed" aspect.

Since: Feb 11

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#200 Nov 7, 2013
Gun Control Does Not Work wrote:
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I am sure criminals, street thugs, crazies, and gang bangers
Gun show's favorite customers.

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#201 Nov 7, 2013
2ndAmRight wrote:
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Indeed. As the last two rulings of the U.S. Supreme Court have shown most conclusively.
Real quote- exact quote using his exact words:

"Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.[United States v.] Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons."

Justice Scalia
from the Supreme Court of the United States
Gun Control Does Not Work

Selkirk, NY

#202 Nov 7, 2013
Hey bareazz, why has the City of Chicago been ordered to come up with a plan to issue CCW permit? Why have those towns around Chicago that once banned handguns are now forced to allow handgun ownership? All by court ordered rulings.

It it called the Second Amendment, and the Libtards will never get rid of it.

Sorry, Shug...you lose once again.

“shall NOT be infringed”

Since: Oct 13

Phoenix

#203 Nov 7, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Real quote- exact quote using his exact words:
"Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.[United States v.] Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons."
Justice Scalia
from the Supreme Court of the United States
VALID U.S. Supreme Court decisions/instructions concerning the Right to Keep and Bear Arms:

"...A reference to a few of the provisions of the Constitution will illustrate this proposition.

"For example, no one, we presume, will contend that Congress can make any law in a Territory respecting the establishment of religion, or the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech or of the press, or the right of the people of the Territory peaceably to assemble and to petition the Government for the redress of grievances.

"Nor can Congress deny to the people the right to keep and bear arms, nor the right to trial by jury, nor compel anyone to be a witness against himself in a criminal proceeding.

"These powers, and others in relation to rights of person which it is not necessary here to enumerate, are, in express and positive terms, denied to the General Government, and the rights of private property have been guarded with equal care."--Chief Justice Roger Taney, United States Supreme Court,[Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393 (1856).]

"The second amendment declares that it shall not be infringed, but this, as has been seen, means no more than that it shall not be infringed by Congress. This is one of the amendments that has no other effect than to restrict the powers of the national government, leaving the people to look for their protection against any violation by their fellow citizens of the rights it recognizes, to what is called, in The City of New York v. Miln, 11 Pet. 139, the "powers which relate to merely municipal legislation, or what was, perhaps, more properly called internal police," "not surrendered or restrained" by the Constitution of the United States."--U.S. Supreme Court, United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542 (1875).

“shall NOT be infringed”

Since: Oct 13

Phoenix

#204 Nov 7, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
Real quote- exact quote using his exact words:
"Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.[United States v.] Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons."
Justice Scalia
from the Supreme Court of the United States
"...Inasmuch as the Constitution provides a peaceable and regular mode whereby it or the U. S. laws may be amended, there can be no other rightful mode of effecting that end known either to the Constitution or law. As it is both the right and duty of every citizen to become fully informed upon all governmental affairs, so as to discharge his many political obligations intelligently at the ballot-box, and in other legitimate ways; and the freedom of the press and of speech are guaranteed to him for that as well as other essential purposes; and as the right of the people peaceably to assemble and petition for the redress of grievances, and to keep and bear arms, cannot be lawfully abridged or infringed, it is evident that an assemblage for the mere purpose of procuring peaceable redress of supposed grievances cannot be treasonable; nor can a free and full discussion of the acts of public men or public measures, whether such discussion be in private conversations, public meetings or the press; nor can a military gathering when assembled for no purpose or design of interfering, by force or intimidation, with the lawful functions of the government or of its constituted authorities, or of preventing the execution of any law, or of extorting its alteration or repeal, or of overthrowing the lawful supremacy of the United States in any State of Territory...."-- CHARGE TO THE GRAND JURY BY THE COURT, JULY 10, 1861. PRESENT: HON. JOHN CATRON, An Associate Justice of Supreme Court of United States. HON. ROB'T W. WELLS, District Judge of United States for Western District of Missouri.[ ST. LOUIS: PRINTED AT THE DEMOCRAT BOOK AND JOB OFFICE 1861.]

“shall NOT be infringed”

Since: Oct 13

Phoenix

#205 Nov 7, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
Real quote- exact quote using his exact words:
"Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.[United States v.] Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons."
Justice Scalia
from the Supreme Court of the United States
"...Baldwin J charged the jury...."

“The first section of the bill of rights in the constitution of Pennsylvania declares that all men have the inherent and indefeasible right of enjoying and defending life and liberty of acquiring possessing and protecting property that no man can be deprived of his liberty or property but by the judgment of his peers or the law of the land Sect 9 That the right of citizens to bear arms in defence of themselves and the state shall not be questioned Sect 21 The second section of the fourth article of the constitution of the United States declares the citizens of each state shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of citizens in the several states. The tenth section of the first article prohibits any state from passing any law which impairs the obligation of a contract. The second amendment provides that the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

"...We shall pursue this subject no further, in its bearing on the political rights of the states composing the union--in recalling your attention to these rights, which are the subject of this controversy, we declare to you as the law of the case, that they are inherent and unalienable--so recognised by all our fundamental laws. "The constitution of the state or union is not the source of these rights, or the others to which we have referred you, they existed in their plenitude before any constitutions, which do not create but protect and secure them against any violation by the legislatures or courts, in making, expounding or administering laws."--U.S. Supreme Court Justice BALDWIN, Circuit Court of The United States, PENNSYLVANIA, APRIL TERM, 1833.[Johnson v Tompkins,(13 F. Cas. 840 (C.C.E.D. Pa. 1833), and others.]
SatanRules

Los Angeles, CA

#206 Nov 7, 2013
Gun Control Does Not Work wrote:
Hey bareazz, why has the City of Chicago been ordered to come up with a plan to issue CCW permit? Why have those towns around Chicago that once banned handguns are now forced to allow handgun ownership? All by court ordered rulings.
It it called the Second Amendment, and the Libtards will never get rid of it.
Sorry, Shug...you lose once again.
interesting this dip$-hit is ok with court ruling when it favors his agenda, but when it doesn't then he claims it violates his rights... bwhahahhahahahahha.. good thing california and new york will still put your an-us in jail....
Gun Control Does Not Work

United States

#207 Nov 7, 2013
SatanRules wrote:
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interesting this dip$-hit is ok with court ruling when it favors his agenda, but when it doesn't then he claims it violates his rights... bwhahahhahahahahha.. good thing california and new york will still put your an-us in jail....
It is not surprising that the libtard controlled Kaliforinia and New York would jail a law abiding citizen. These are areas were the criminals, street thugs, gang bangers, and crazies are left to prey on society yet the law abiding are jailed.
Whatever, but these new draconian laws have not seen the light of a court room, but we will win in court. Remember freak, we have the Constitution.
SatanRules

Indianapolis, IN

#208 Nov 7, 2013
Gun Control Does Not Work wrote:
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It is not surprising that the libtard controlled Kaliforinia and New York would jail a law abiding citizen. These are areas were the criminals, street thugs, gang bangers, and crazies are left to prey on society yet the law abiding are jailed.
Whatever, but these new draconian laws have not seen the light of a court room, but we will win in court. Remember freak, we have the Constitution.
the constitution is crap. too bad for you it will soon be eradicated. it will be funny when your guns are confiscated. i'm coming for yours personally. what are you going to do about it?
Gun Control Does Not Work

United States

#209 Nov 7, 2013
SatanRules wrote:
<quoted text>the constitution is crap. too bad for you it will soon be eradicated. it will be funny when your guns are confiscated. i'm coming for yours personally. what are you going to do about it?
Hahahaha. Your a funny Azz clown. We all know that the Constitution will not be eradicated and you won't be coming for anyone's legally owned firearms. Poor frustrated Libtard needs to count to ten and go take his Obama care supplied happy pills.

“shall NOT be infringed”

Since: Oct 13

Phoenix

#210 Nov 7, 2013
SatanRules wrote:
<quoted text>the constitution is crap. too bad for you it will soon be eradicated. it will be funny when your guns are confiscated. i'm coming for yours personally. what are you going to do about it?
No, the Constitution has only been made "crap" by the treasonous LIEberals. Would strongly suggest that you stick with slamming them. Because if you come for a true supporters guns. Then they'll most likely gladly give them to you. One jacketed hollow-point at a time....

“shall NOT be infringed”

Since: Oct 13

Phoenix

#211 Nov 7, 2013
SatanRules wrote:
<quoted text>the constitution is crap. too bad for you it will soon be eradicated. it will be funny when your guns are confiscated. i'm coming for yours personally. what are you going to do about it?
Oh, and F.Y.I. The serpent 'satan' does not "rule",(anyone other than LIEberals that is). He's the grand loser of all time,(perfect poster-child for the LIE-beral crowd). And his time is running very, very short....
Gun Control Does Not Work

United States

#214 Nov 7, 2013
The libtards can't even get the Obamacare website to work, how the hell will they ever get rid of the Constitution. They are really a pack of pathetic losers. Hahahahahahahaha .

Since: Feb 11

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#215 Nov 8, 2013
2ndAmRight wrote:
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VALID U.S. Supreme Court decisions/instructions concerning the Right to Keep and Bear Arms:
The EXACT QUOTE was from Heller.

Are you saying HELLER isn't valid, Sod0mite?

You stupid azz: you can quote every single SCOTUS ruling for the last 240 years: it doesn't give you the right to sell guns, let alone sell to complete total strangers- to idiots like yourself.

Wipe your chin, Shug.

Since: Feb 11

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#216 Nov 8, 2013
2ndAmRight wrote:
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"...Inasmuch as the Constitution
not a thing to do with universal background checks.

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