Fight the NRA: 28,117 gun deaths sinc...

Fight the NRA: 28,117 gun deaths since Sandy Hook must be remembered

There are 438 comments on the Salon story from Oct 25, 2013, titled Fight the NRA: 28,117 gun deaths since Sandy Hook must be remembered. In it, Salon reports that:

As of this week, estimates are that 28,177 Americans have died of gun violence since the Newtown, Conn., school shootings.

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NRA Strong

United States

#341 Nov 10, 2013
Barefoot 2626 Satanlives and princeofdarkness is the same libtard troll posting lies under different screen names.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#342 Nov 10, 2013
NRA Strong wrote:
Barefoot 2626 Satanlives and princeofdarkness is the same libtard troll posting lies under different screen names.
~stomp stomp stomp~

poor baby.

We are three different people, the only thing we share in common is the STD your mother gave us at the last Taunt the Tea Bagger convention.

What EVERYONE does know is: you change your alias weekly.
NRA Strong

United States

#343 Nov 10, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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~stomp stomp stomp~
poor baby.
We are three different people, the only thing we share in common is the STD your mother gave us at the last Taunt the Tea Bagger convention.
What EVERYONE does know is: you change your alias weekly.
Hahahahahahahaha. It is more like slurp slurp slurp in your case barefoot or Satanlives or ah what was that other one?

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#344 Nov 10, 2013
NRA Strong wrote:
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Hahahahahahahaha.
If your mom changed her alias as often as you, she wouldn't have been able to keep her food stamps and' you'd out there on a job instead of just doing jobs.
News Skeptic

Lake Butler, FL

#345 Nov 10, 2013
Diogenes wrote:
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Let's test your theory, shall we?
If Chicago has a problem with guns, but the places from where the guns arrive aren't having the same problem as Chicago, then it can only mean that it's Chicago laws which are causing the problem.
That same applies for any other location which severely restricts access to guns, such as Washington, D.C., and New York City, for example.
Right outside the city limits of D.C., in Virginia, people are afforded their right to keep and bear arms. Yet the violent crime rate in Virginia is far, far lower than in D.C. More guns equals less crime!
That same situation exists for New York as well. The next state over, Vermont, has NO anti-gun laws, and one may carry a gun any which way one pleases. Yet the extremely low violent crime rate in Vermont is enough to shame the whole state of New York.
So, if gun possession were to be seen as some kind problem, then the only problem is the CONTROL FREAKS who desire to keep the citizenry disarmed, and at the mercy of BOTH the CONTROL FREAKS, and the violent criminals.
In closing, allow me to make this one observation: I'll bet the guy who beat you with that stupid stick wore himself out!!!
:-))
Your post is spot on !
SatanRules

Dallas, TX

#347 Nov 10, 2013
News Skeptic wrote:
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Your post is spot on !
really dumb f-uk... the guns in chicago come from the hillbilly states, which are at the top of the crime and violence tables....

hence the laws are not the problem....plenty of guns in hillbilly states... nothing accomplished except dead hillbilly's...

The recently released FBI's crime statistics for 2012, once again show the American South dominating the list of states with the highest per capita homicide rates. Louisiana led the nation with a murder rate of 10.8 homicides per 100,000 population. Louisiana's Southern neighbor, Mississippi was second with a homicide rate of 7.4 per 100,000. Alabama (7.1), Michigan (7.0) and South Carolina (6.9) rounded out the top five most murderous U.S. states in 2012. Missouri (6.5), Tennessee (6.0), Georgia and Arkansas also ranked in the top ten states, with Georgia and Arkansas tying for 10th at 5.9 murders per 100,000.

“shall NOT be infringed”

Since: Oct 13

Phoenix

#348 Nov 10, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Is Alexander Hamilton alive or dead?
Your faulty reading comprehension skills are hardly my problem troll.
SatanRules

Dallas, TX

#349 Nov 10, 2013
2ndAmRight wrote:
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Your faulty reading comprehension skills are hardly my problem troll.
bwahahahhaha... 2ndamrightard is talking about comprehension skills....bwhahhahahhahahahahh ah...best go spank your monkey moron....comprende...

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#350 Nov 10, 2013
SatanRules wrote:
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bwahahahhaha... 2ndamrightard is talking about comprehension skills..
Get this: he's moved from "slander" (when it dawn on his after I hit him between the eyes fifteen times) that he wasn't going to be able to prove slander to (get this) "corruption of blood".

HAHAHAAHAHAHAH!

Topix needs - IMHO - to be able to back these turds who make bets then WELCH out of them.

I favor a new "badge" that follows him (and his new aliases) around.

“shall NOT be infringed”

Since: Oct 13

Phoenix

#351 Nov 11, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Get this: he's moved from "slander" (when it dawn on his after I hit him between the eyes fifteen times) that he wasn't going to be able to prove slander to (get this) "corruption of blood".
HAHAHAAHAHAHAH!
Topix needs - IMHO - to be able to back these turds who make bets then WELCH out of them.
I favor a new "badge" that follows him (and his new aliases) around.
"My excellent friend from Boylston,(Mr. Whitney,) has uttered, in the speech he has just made, many noble sentiments of love among men and peace on earth. I love peace not less ardently than my friend from Boylston. The bloodless victories of peace are as dear to me as to him. But I am not one of those men who cry peace, when there is no peace without slavery, injustice and wrong. My friend from North Brookfield,(Mr Walker,) and others, have spoken of the peace movements in England and on the continent, and of Richard Cobden and others of its leading spirits. I may be in error, but I have sometimes thought that the song which the peace movement has hymned into the ear of Europe during the past five years has made far easier the march of the legions Russia and Austria upon Hungary and Italy, and the march of the legions of France--of apostate republican France--upon Rome. While the people have listened with softened hearts to the songs of peace, their masters have disarmed them, and sent forth their increasing standing armies to crush every manifestation of freedom, progress, and popular rights. When tyranny is overthrown and freedom established; when standing armies are disbanded and the people armed for their own protection against arbitrary power; then I would write "peace" on the banners of the people and send them forth to make the tour of the world. My motto is "Liberty first--peace afterwards."

- Mr. Henry Wilson, June 21, 1853,[OFFICIAL REPORT OF THE DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS IN The State Convention ASSEMBLED MAY 4TH, 1853, TO REVISE AND AMEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE Commonwealth of Massachusetts. VOLUME SECOND. BOSTON: WHITE & POTTER, PRINTERS TO THE CONVENTION, 1853.](Mr. Wilson,(Feb. 16, 1812 Nov. 22, 1875), was a delegate to the state constitutional convention in 1853. He was elected to the United States Senate in 1855. He was reelected as a Republican in 1859, 1865 and 1871, and served from Jan. 31, 1855 to March 4, 1873, when he resigned to become Vice President. He was the 18th Vice President of the United States (18731875). During the Civil War, he was Chairman of the Committee on Military Affairs and the Militia, and the Committee on Military Affairs).

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#352 Nov 11, 2013
2ndAmRight wrote:
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"My
And no one is shocked that GayDavy WELCHES on his pledge.

Is it any wonder that no one believes a thing he says?

“shall NOT be infringed”

Since: Oct 13

Phoenix

#353 Nov 11, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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And no one is shocked that GayDavy WELCHES on his pledge.
Is it any wonder that no one believes a thing he says?
"I should like to an amendment to this bill to the effect that quantity of arms say $1,000,000 worth or so should be given to these Indians...."

"...Now, I speak with the utmost in this matter. I know the value of an Indian's life. I know how sacred it has been with us, and how careful we have been to supply them with all arms of the best quality. I know that we have sought to give them Remington rifles and improved breech-loaders, and all the best guns we have invented, in order that we might the satisfaction of having a good square with them."--Rep. Robert Roosevelt, Jan. 30, 1872,[The Congressional Globe, Volume 66, Part 1 By United States. Congress,(Pg. 716-7)].

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#354 Nov 11, 2013
And no one is shocked that GayDavyQ WELCHES on his pledge.

“shall NOT be infringed”

Since: Oct 13

Phoenix

#355 Nov 11, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
And no one is shocked that GayDavyQ WELCHES on his pledge.
If, then, the arms-bearing right of the people is, as Blackstone says, an integral and inseparable part of their absolute rights as individuals, it follows that any and every constitution which assumes to protect life, liberty and property, necessarily insures the right of all the people to keep and bear arms, unless the contrary intention is clearly expressed, Hence the right is in nowise dependent upon the clause asserting that a well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. The right exists whether the constitution contains that clause or not. Our state constitution does not contain it, but nevertheless includes the right as part of the personal outfit of every freeman when it says, almost in the very language of the Declaration of Independence:

"All men are by nature free and independent, and have certain inherent and inalienble rights; among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. To secure these rights and the protetion of property, governments are instituted among men:" Bill of Rights, Section 1...."

- Opinion by Barnum, J., Illinois--Cook County Circuit Court. People, Ex. Rel. Bielfeld, v. Affelt.[1879].[The Criminal Law Magazine. A Bi-Monthly Periodical Devoted to the Interests of Bench and Bar in Criminal Cases. CONTAINING Original articles on timely topics, full reports of important cases, and a digest of all recent criminal cases, American and English. EDITORS: STEWART RAPALJE, of the New York Bar. ROBERT L. LAWRENCE, of the Jersey City Bar. Ignoranlia legia neminem excusal." VOLUME I. JERSEY CITY: Frederick D. Linn & Co., Law Book Publishers. 1880.](William Henry Barnum, As a jurist Judge Barnum evinced a broad knowledge of law and equity, a conscientious regard for the rights of all classes of litigants and fine executive ability in the dispatch of business.)
PrinceofDarkness

Sydney, Australia

#356 Nov 11, 2013
2ndAmRight wrote:
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If, then, the arms-bearing right of the people is, as Blackstone says, an integral and inseparable part of their absolute rights as individuals, it follows that any and every constitution which assumes to protect life, liberty and property, necessarily insures the right of all the people to keep and bear arms, unless the contrary intention is clearly expressed, Hence the right is in nowise dependent upon the clause asserting that a well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. The right exists whether the constitution contains that clause or not. Our state constitution does not contain it, but nevertheless includes the right as part of the personal outfit of every freeman when it says, almost in the very language of the Declaration of Independence:
"All men are by nature free and independent, and have certain inherent and inalienble rights; among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. To secure these rights and the protetion of property, governments are instituted among men:" Bill of Rights, Section 1...."
- Opinion by Barnum, J., Illinois--Cook County Circuit Court. People, Ex. Rel. Bielfeld, v. Affelt.[1879].[The Criminal Law Magazine. A Bi-Monthly Periodical Devoted to the Interests of Bench and Bar in Criminal Cases. CONTAINING Original articles on timely topics, full reports of important cases, and a digest of all recent criminal cases, American and English. EDITORS: STEWART RAPALJE, of the New York Bar. ROBERT L. LAWRENCE, of the Jersey City Bar. Ignoranlia legia neminem excusal." VOLUME I. JERSEY CITY: Frederick D. Linn & Co., Law Book Publishers. 1880.](William Henry Barnum, As a jurist Judge Barnum evinced a broad knowledge of law and equity, a conscientious regard for the rights of all classes of litigants and fine executive ability in the dispatch of business.)
http://www.sovereignman.com/wp-content/upload...

“shall NOT be infringed”

Since: Oct 13

Phoenix

#357 Nov 11, 2013
PrinceofDarkness wrote:
"The right to bear arms is a fundamental principle of our government, and a principle regarded at all times by free people as essential to the maintenance of their liberties and institutions. We demand that this right shall remain inviolate."--Frank Morrison, secretary of the American Federation of Labor, quoting from the platform of the 1916 convention of the Federation in Baltimore.

- New-York Tribune, Sunday, May 18, 1919. Vol. LXXIX No. 26,481 Pg. 16.
PATRIOT DVC

Huejotzingo, Mexico

#358 Nov 11, 2013
28,000 shooting deaths since Sandy Hook eh? Why not post how many were legal self defense shootings like TrayBgone Martin? How many were black on black shootings? And how many were police shootings to protect law abiding citizens? That would surely change the numbers incredibly. After all who cares how many KIA deaths are caused under those circumstances?
Hell in Chicongo alone there have been 390n shooting deaths this year alone. 80% black and 18% Latino. Again as I say who cares? Imagine how those numbers crunch nationwide hahaha. Not bad for a couple of small minority groups that are responsible for 98% of the shootings hahah. And again who cares?
http://www.heyjackass.com/
PATRIOT DVC

Huejotzingo, Mexico

#359 Nov 11, 2013
2ndAmRight wrote:
<quoted text>
"The right to bear arms is a fundamental principle of our government, and a principle regarded at all times by free people as essential to the maintenance of their liberties and institutions. We demand that this right shall remain inviolate."--Frank Morrison, secretary of the American Federation of Labor, quoting from the platform of the 1916 convention of the Federation in Baltimore.
- New-York Tribune, Sunday, May 18, 1919. Vol. LXXIX No. 26,481 Pg. 16.
So Right!
NRA Strong

United States

#360 Nov 11, 2013
Not to get off topic, but why does barefoot have a dozen screen names posting the same crap? Is it just typical libtard propaganda?

“shall NOT be infringed”

Since: Oct 13

Phoenix

#361 Nov 11, 2013
"The constitution expressly provides: "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." The history of this clause underscores it. It is one of the first amendments to the constitution that experience dictated. It is a clause with a history such as clusters around few others.

"The principle that dictated the amendment and its adoption is summed up in one of the arguments made in its favor--"A free people is an arms-keeping and arms-bearing people."

- The Evening Standard, Ogden City, Utah, Saturday Evening, January, 28, 1911. Forty-First Year--No. 24. Pg. 2.

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