Fight the NRA: 28,117 gun deaths sinc...

Fight the NRA: 28,117 gun deaths since Sandy Hook must be remembered

There are 438 comments on the Salon story from Oct 25, 2013, titled Fight the NRA: 28,117 gun deaths since Sandy Hook must be remembered. In it, Salon reports that:

As of this week, estimates are that 28,177 Americans have died of gun violence since the Newtown, Conn., school shootings.

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Gun Control Does Not Work

United States

#1 Oct 25, 2013
More social liberal stats intended to ban firearms ownership for law abiding citizens. Are we including the Boston Bomber suspect in this talley too? There are millions of AR type rifles in this country and even more magazines that hold more than ten cartridges, and most are owned by law abiding citizens. The problem with these mass violence incidents are the social liberal inspired "gun free zones" that ban law abiding people from CCW and protecting themselves, while doing nothing to stop the criminals and the crazies from carry out their carnage.
CTM

New Milford, CT

#2 Oct 26, 2013
These must be the Bloomberg numbers that include such people as the Boston Bomber and the guys killed in police shoot-outs.
Get Out

Jacksonville, NC

#3 Oct 27, 2013
“Fight the NRA”??? When are gun grabbers going to figure it out, they aren’t fighting the NRA, they’re fighting lawful gun owners and 2A supporters.
UR KiddingRight

Houston, TX

#4 Oct 27, 2013
I think they actually believe that anyone that owns a firearm belongs to the NRA.
Brucevb

Killingworth, CT

#5 Oct 27, 2013
Never mentions adding mentally ill to background check data base, just more "treatment" through Obama Care. Which of these every 5 day shootings would be prevented by universal background checks? Warm fuzzy feel good legislation has no impact on those who do not obey the laws. But they feel it's doing something, just nothing that makes a difference no matter how justification is fabricated.
Gun Control Does Not Work

United States

#6 Oct 27, 2013
UR KiddingRight wrote:
I think they actually believe that anyone that owns a firearm belongs to the NRA.
Anyone who owns a firearm and wants to kept it should be an NRA member.
Gun Control Does Not Work

United States

#8 Oct 29, 2013
PrinceofDarkness wrote:
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really stupa$$.. so we don't do anything about crazies and criminals?.. so all the prison and mental hospitals are empty?... damn re'tard....
bend over
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4106/499209290...
More of your libtard spamming. No we don't do anything about the crazies, unless your spamming from an institution.
Gun Control Does Not Work

United States

#10 Oct 29, 2013
PrinceofDarkness wrote:
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yeah, I figured you couldn't contradict the obvious facts.. go fondle yourself moron..
Oblivious facts: like one of the most oppressive gun restrictions for law abiding citizens, yet one one the highest criminal homicide rates in the libtard fatherland of Chicago. Like firearms being used by law abiding citizens about 3 million times a year for personal protection. Like skyrocketing recidivism rates by repeat violent offenders set free by social liberal early release programs. Like the recent wackos set free, again to walk the streets and prey on the innocent, and set free by social liberal deinstitutionalized mental health system for the violent. What is the the libtard answer to violence? These morons what to take firearms away from the innocent law abiding citizens.

So there azzw ipe, here are your facts.
Diogenes

London, UK

#12 Oct 29, 2013
PrinceofDarkness wrote:
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chicago killings are committed by gun obtained outside of chicago.. they are surrounded by hillbilly's and rednecks like you supplying guns...
top 3 states for crime and violence are tennessee, alaska and nevada....full of guns.....gee...hasn't solved the crime or violence has it, you fu-k-tard....
Let's test your theory, shall we?

If Chicago has a problem with guns, but the places from where the guns arrive aren't having the same problem as Chicago, then it can only mean that it's Chicago laws which are causing the problem.

That same applies for any other location which severely restricts access to guns, such as Washington, D.C., and New York City, for example.

Right outside the city limits of D.C., in Virginia, people are afforded their right to keep and bear arms. Yet the violent crime rate in Virginia is far, far lower than in D.C. More guns equals less crime!

That same situation exists for New York as well. The next state over, Vermont, has NO anti-gun laws, and one may carry a gun any which way one pleases. Yet the extremely low violent crime rate in Vermont is enough to shame the whole state of New York.

So, if gun possession were to be seen as some kind problem, then the only problem is the CONTROL FREAKS who desire to keep the citizenry disarmed, and at the mercy of BOTH the CONTROL FREAKS, and the violent criminals.

In closing, allow me to make this one observation: I'll bet the guy who beat you with that stupid stick wore himself out!!!

:-))
Gun Control Does Not Work

United States

#13 Oct 30, 2013
PrinceofDarkness wrote:
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chicago killings are committed by gun obtained outside of chicago.. they are surrounded by hillbilly's and rednecks like you supplying guns...
top 3 states for crime and violence are tennessee, alaska and nevada....full of guns.....gee...hasn't solved the crime or violence has it, you fu-k-tard....
According to the FBI stats there were 29 homicides in Alaska for 2011, and 16 were by firearms. These stats did not say whether or not the homicides were justified (acts of self defense) or criminal.(murders), but regardless the number is 29 for the entire state. According to the Chicago Police annual report there were 433 criminal homicides in Chicago for 2011.

So sorry azzw ipe, your caught spreading more LIBTARD lies.
TeaParty Rules

United States

#16 Oct 30, 2013
PrinceofDarkness wrote:
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stupa$$... time for you to face reality....why don't you learn to use numbers that are adjusted for population.. YOU MORON...
THE TOP 10 MOST VIOLENT CRIME RIDDLED STATES IN 2012
Using FBI data for 2012, 24/7 Wall St. assembled a list of the top states for violent crime rates per 100,000 residents. Instead of showing that with the highest populations come the highest crime, the study found that crimes like rape, assault, and murder follow trends in high poverty and low education.
1. Tennessee
2. Nevada
3. Alaska
4. New Mexico
5. South Carolina
6. Delaware
7. Louisiana
8. Florida
9. Maryland
10. Oklahoma
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article -
Ok, 2012 Alaska had 38 murders while Chicago alone had 505. I'd feel safer walking the streets in Alaska. Also the states you list all have their high violence occurring in districts that vote democrat, while the conservative areas in these states that vote Republican all have very low incidents of violence. So I guess besides lying Libtards, while waiting for a free handout, are dangerous too.
TeaParty Rules

United States

#17 Oct 30, 2013
PrinceofDarkness wrote:
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I would call you stupid, but I don't want to insult the the stupid of the world....next time, pull my co-ck out of your mouth...
gun homicides by state show virginia comes in 3.1 and New York at 2.7 ... Vermont has not major metropolitan areas and all rural...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_...
Ok, it is all starting to make sense to me after reading the article which mentions high poverty and LOW education. These are the democrat voting districts. Ok, I got it now, thanks for the posting this info.
Tray

Tupelo, MS

#19 Oct 30, 2013
PrinceofDarkness wrote:
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having another bowel movement teapartytard? another massacre in a hillbilly state today:
Officials are investigating after finding the bodies of two males, two females, and two children in a home Tuesday night in Greenwood County, South Carolina.
By Ali Fateh, Niven McCall-Mazza and Henry Austin, NBC News
The main suspect in a "horrific" South Carolina murder-suicide that left six people dead, including two children, released four other children before the slaughter began, police told NBC News late Monday.
A SWAT team discovered the grisly scene at a Greenville area home, where a man in a 911 call placed just before 6 p.m. had told a police dispatcher he was feeling “edgy” and thinking about hurting himself, Greenwood County Sheriff Tony Davis said at a news briefing.
Many things effect the crime rate in any area, but ONE thing is the same in all of them. The success rate of the criminal in a violent crime is97% when unarmed victim vs 37% armed victim. You can't dodge that no matter how hard you try. The crime rate may be the same in two areas but the SUCCESSFUL crime is lower in the armed victim area.
Gun Control Does Not Work

United States

#20 Oct 30, 2013
Ok libtard so this town has 4 homicides this year. Chicago is around 500. The most dangerous places in America are where the low educated Libtards roam, and you provided the facts.
Tray

Tupelo, MS

#21 Oct 30, 2013
PrinceofDarkness wrote:
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stupa$$... time for you to face reality....why don't you learn to use numbers that are adjusted for population.. YOU MORON...
THE TOP 10 MOST VIOLENT CRIME RIDDLED STATES IN 2012
Using FBI data for 2012, 24/7 Wall St. assembled a list of the top states for violent crime rates per 100,000 residents. Instead of showing that with the highest populations come the highest crime, the study found that crimes like rape, assault, and murder follow trends in high poverty and low education.
1. Tennessee
2. Nevada
3. Alaska
4. New Mexico
5. South Carolina

6. Delaware
7. Louisiana
8. Florida
9. Maryland
10. Oklahoma
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article -
DUH. Rich people don't need to rape or assault poor people so yes poor commit more violent crimes, but the rich commit more white collar crimes. There tends to be more rich in higher populated areas like New York and Chicago. Once you equalize those numbers then New York and Illinois surpass all those states you listed as more violent and those states have much less white collar crime. But untill you can stop ALL violent crime in ALL areas then being armed is still the best defense against violent crime no matter where the area.
Pat Patriot

Roanoke, VA

#23 Oct 30, 2013
Funny how you say mental institutions are full. That's interestiong since they have lost ALL federal funding since 2006 and most are now closed. Do your homework before commenting it makes you look stupid. Get the facts so they cannot turn them against you later on.
PrinceofDarkness wrote:
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really stupa$$.. so we don't do anything about crazies and criminals?.. so all the prison and mental hospitals are empty?... damn re'tard....
bend over
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4106/499209290...
Pat Patriot

Roanoke, VA

#24 Oct 30, 2013
Did they tear down VA Tech after the shootings, no
did they tear down the Theater in Aurora, Co after the shootings, NO.
Why not? Because they Had nothing to hide from the public!

Here is the link to the 2 hour finally unscrambled police radio transmissions and actual records. There was more than just one shooter and up to SIX of them
So Explain that. While you are at it. Explain at the very end why police whisper "End the life of Adam" at the end? Explain all of these bits of missing info and then we might believe you. For now until proven to the American public this was a ruse! False Flag, and this 2 hour video totally proves it. See it now before they try to take it down again. It's been re-uploaded over 135 times by many different people and it will continue to be done until the truth comes out.
link
TeaParty Rules

United States

#25 Oct 30, 2013
Pat Patriot wrote:
Did they tear down VA Tech after the shootings, no
did they tear down the Theater in Aurora, Co after the shootings, NO.
Why not? Because they Had nothing to hide from the public!
Here is the link to the 2 hour finally unscrambled police radio transmissions and actual records. There was more than just one shooter and up to SIX of them
So Explain that. While you are at it. Explain at the very end why police whisper "End the life of Adam" at the end? Explain all of these bits of missing info and then we might believe you. For now until proven to the American public this was a ruse! False Flag, and this 2 hour video totally proves it. See it now before they try to take it down again. It's been re-uploaded over 135 times by many different people and it will continue to be done until the truth comes out.
link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =qbG3G1EPPUIXX
The workers that are contracted to tear the building down have to sign a statement that they will not speak of what they see ( or don't see ) in the building. We are in a time of government gone wild, where is the transparency?
Gun Control Does Not Work

United States

#27 Oct 30, 2013
PrinceofDarkness wrote:
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somewhat odd you didn't post a credible source for your info...what's the matter, you flushed before you could pull it out....
MORON
ROTFLMFAO, like your sources are credible. All you post is social liberal lies. Hahahahahahahaha.
CTM

New Milford, CT

#28 Oct 30, 2013
Pat Patriot wrote:
Did they tear down VA Tech after the shootings, no
did they tear down the Theater in Aurora, Co after the shootings, NO.
Why not? Because they Had nothing to hide from the public!
Here is the link to the 2 hour finally unscrambled police radio transmissions and actual records. There was more than just one shooter and up to SIX of them
So Explain that. While you are at it. Explain at the very end why police whisper "End the life of Adam" at the end? Explain all of these bits of missing info and then we might believe you. For now until proven to the American public this was a ruse! False Flag, and this 2 hour video totally proves it. See it now before they try to take it down again. It's been re-uploaded over 135 times by many different people and it will continue to be done until the truth comes out.
link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =qbG3G1EPPUIXX
..........The inbreds that run the town sell their own children out for profit every day, this was a bonanza for them. There were two others at the shooting, but names aren't released, that's who they are protecting. Blumenthal has done big favors for the criminals that live and some are politicians there. The corruption is old and they keep finding new ways to make money on it. Llodra is a lying snake, woman says they don't want to remeber anything, so even the footings are being torn out of the school, meanwhile they have umpteen monuments and playgrounds and millions given in dozens of funds and now the books are starting. The police, politicinas, and some of the residents there are some of the worst human trash walking the earth.

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