Would background checks stop mass shootings?

Apr 11, 2013 Full story: Local TV Station KTVZ 186

The tragic shootings in each of these and other towns have ignited public sentiment for some kind of gun reforms and fired up gun advocates to protect what they see as their constitutional right of easy access to firearms.

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moronfinder

Charlottesville, VA

#116 Apr 30, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
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I have no problem at all confessing that Jesus is Lord. In fact, I publish it on my website. And acknowledge that God is the Author of all of our Rights. Which of course makes >you< an enemy of God. For >you< cry out to have those rights INFRINGED.
"Woe unto them that decree unrighteous decrees, and that write grievousness [which] they have prescribed;
"To turn aside the needy from judgment, and to take away the right from the poor of my people, that widows may be their prey, and [that] they may rob the fatherless!
"And what will ye do in the day of visitation, and in the desolation [which] shall come from far? to whom will ye flee for help? and where will ye leave your glory?
"Without me they shall bow down under the prisoners, and they shall fall under the slain. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand [is] stretched out still."
- Isaiah 10:1-4
You freaks are blind. You have no idea the wrath that will soon descend upon you....
With all your biblical "quotes" it's plain to see why you're so angry and paranoid. And speaking of the 'big guy'......do you really believe in a supreme being that tells you to arm yourself to kill your fellow man? Isn't that the kind of warped thinking behind the reason for background checks? If you're hearing voices that tell you to be some sort of religious commando.....maybe it's time for a time out. You're no different than any other jihadist.
moronfinder

Charlottesville, VA

#117 Apr 30, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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GayDavy quote mining.
Pretty funny..........
moronfinder

Charlottesville, VA

#118 Apr 30, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
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Waste of time attempting to make sense with that troll, Tray. How's it going?
So much hate and name calling......must be the religion.
moronfinder

Charlottesville, VA

#119 Apr 30, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
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Waste of time attempting to make sense with that troll, Tray. How's it going?
Trolling for friends?
moronfinder

Charlottesville, VA

#120 Apr 30, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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WAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/images/polling/us/u...
FOR RELEASE:
APRIL 4, 2013
BACKGROUND CHECKS COULD LEAD TO GUN CONFISCATION MANY VOTERS TELL QUINNIPIAC UNIVERSITY NATIONAL POLL BUT 91 PERCENT WANT UNIVERSAL GUN CHECKS
American voters say 48 – 38 percent that the government could use the information from universal background checks to confiscate legally owned guns, but voters still support universal gun background checks 91 –8 percent, including 88 – 11 percent among voters in households with guns, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today
He won't read it for it contains facts. And who needs those according to the GOP.
moronfinder

Charlottesville, VA

#121 Apr 30, 2013
Grumpy553 wrote:
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So you want to stand on the first ammendment while you **** all over the second. The constitution is a great doccument, except for those pesky sections you dont agree with, right?
What part of the second calls for an individual arms race with any weapon imaginable?
moronfinder

Charlottesville, VA

#122 Apr 30, 2013
August wrote:
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Yup, that's the liberal way!
Better get used to it. Too bad for you.
moronfinder

Charlottesville, VA

#123 Apr 30, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
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Not quite, O' one that lacks the use of their brain:
"Those then who controvert the principle that the Constitution is to be considered, in court as a paramount law, are reduced to the necessity of maintaining that courts must close their eyes on the Constitution, and see only law.
"This doctrine would subvert the very foundation of all written Constitutions ... It would be giving to the legislature a practical and real omnipotence, with the same breath, which professes to restrict their powers within narrow limits. It is prescribing limits, and declaring that those limits may be passed at pleasure.
"That it thus reduces to nothing what we have deemed the greatest improvement on political institutions--a written Constitution--would of itself be sufficient, in America, where written Constitutions have been viewed with so much reverence, for rejecting the Constitution."
"All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution, are null and void."--Chief Justice Marshall, U.S. Supreme Court, Marbury v. Madison, 5, U.S.(Cranch) 137, 174,176.]
A Constitution is FACT. It's meaning does NOT change. Nor is it altered by the whims of the imbecilic.
Looks like you shouldn't have been born at all. At least not here in this country.
For the love of your god man........get a hobby. Enough with the boring, meaningless, far outdated, and bigoted quotes. Guns kill........period.
Cruz

Charlottesville, VA

#124 Apr 30, 2013
okay...explain to me just how these criminals are going to follow the laws?
Cruz

Charlottesville, VA

#125 Apr 30, 2013
moronfinder wrote:
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For the love of your god man........get a hobby. Enough with the boring, meaningless, far outdated, and bigoted quotes. Guns kill........period.
WOW....you love to hear the sound of your own voice don't you!
Grumpy553

Jersey City, NJ

#126 Apr 30, 2013
moronfinder wrote:
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What part of the second calls for an individual arms race with any weapon imaginable?
Who said anything about a personal arms race? Or any weapons imaginable? Thats a shoddy attempt to escalate the current gun control/gun rights debate well beyond rational cunjecture. Nobody carries a grenade launcher. Nobody robs a bank with an RPG. Nobody buys a nuke for home defense. The issue that must be addressed is simply two things...the right of the law abiding citizen to own firearms. Not weapons of mass destruction, firearms.
Second is stopping criminals, terrorists, and mentally defective people from accessing said firearms, and prosecuting and imprisoning those who do. Including FFL dealers who look the other way when its time to do the background checks that already exist as federal law.

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#127 Apr 30, 2013
moronfinder wrote:
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With all your biblical "quotes" it's plain to see why you're so angry and paranoid. And speaking of the 'big guy'......do you really believe in a supreme being that tells you to arm yourself to kill your fellow man? Isn't that the kind of warped thinking behind the reason for background checks? If you're hearing voices that tell you to be some sort of religious commando.....maybe it's time for a time out. You're no different than any other jihadist.
"Good and wise men, in all ages, have embraced a very dissimilar theory. They have supposed, that the deity, from the relations, we stand in, to himself and to each other, has constituted an eternal and immutable law, which is, indispensibly, obligatory upon all mankind, prior to any human institution whatever.

"This is what is called the law of nature, "which, being coeval with mankind, and dictated by God himself, is, of course, superior in obligation to any other. It is binding over ALL the globe, in ALL countries, and at ALL times. No HUMAN LAWS are of any validity, if CONTRARY to this; and such of them as are valid, derive all their authority, mediately, or immediately, from this original...." - Blackstone...

"Upon this law, depend the natural rights of mankind, the supreme being gave existence to man, together with the means of preserving and beatifying that existence. He endowed him with rational faculties, by the help of which, to discern and pursue such things, as were consistent with his duty and interest, and invested him with an inviolable right to personal liberty, and personal safety.

"The sacred rights of mankind are not to be rummaged for, among old parchments, or musty records. They are written, as with a sun beam, in the whole volume of human nature, by the hand of the divinity itself; and can never be erased or obscured by mortal power....

"Had the rest of America passively looked on, while a sister colony was subjugated, the same fate would gradually have overtaken all. The safety of the whole depends upon the mutual protection of every part. If the sword of oppression be permitted to lop off one limb without opposition, reiterated strokes will soon dismember the whole body."

- Alexander Hamilton, The Farmer Refuted, 23 Feb. 1775

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#128 Apr 30, 2013
moronfinder wrote:
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For the love of your god man........get a hobby. Enough with the boring, meaningless, far outdated, and bigoted quotes. Guns kill........period.
"...Self defence is a primary law of nature, which no subsequent law of society can abolish; this primæval principle, the immediate gift of the Creator, obliges every one to remonstrate against the strides of ambition, and a wanton lust of domination, and to resist the first approaches of tyranny, which at this day threaten to sweep away the rights for which the brave sons of America have fought with an heroism scarcely paralleled even in ancient republicks...."

- Elbridge Gerry, Observations On the new Constitution, and on the Federal and State Conventions. By a Columbian Patriot. Sic transit gloria Americana.[Boston: 1788.]
moronfinder

Charlottesville, VA

#129 Apr 30, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
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"...Self defence is a primary law of nature, which no subsequent law of society can abolish; this primæval principle, the immediate gift of the Creator, obliges every one to remonstrate against the strides of ambition, and a wanton lust of domination, and to resist the first approaches of tyranny, which at this day threaten to sweep away the rights for which the brave sons of America have fought with an heroism scarcely paralleled even in ancient republicks...."
- Elbridge Gerry, Observations On the new Constitution, and on the Federal and State Conventions. By a Columbian Patriot. Sic transit gloria Americana.[Boston: 1788.]
How current. Thus my 400 year ago birth comment. Luckily for the now civilized world, you're part of the old regime with it's leader Jesus H. Guns, that seems to be in dire straights these days. From DAILEY news stories involving gun violence, to priests and all kinds of religious "leaders" involved in child abuse, it looks like you made a wise choice in a way of life. Thump your bible. Coddle your guns. Your time is running out.
He was

Santa Fe, NM

#131 Apr 30, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
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"...Self defence is a primary law of nature, which no subsequent law of society can abolish; this primæval principle, the immediate gift of the Creator, obliges every one to remonstrate against the strides of ambition, and a wanton lust of domination, and to resist the first approaches of tyranny, which at this day threaten to sweep away the rights for which the brave sons of America have fought with an heroism scarcely paralleled even in ancient republicks...."
- Elbridge Gerry, Observations On the new Constitution, and on the Federal and State Conventions. By a Columbian Patriot. Sic transit gloria Americana.[Boston: 1788.]
referring to the British coming back, dummy

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#132 Apr 30, 2013
moronfinder wrote:
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How current....
Her's one for you to choke on:

Circuit court of the United States fifth circuit and district of Louisiana.
The United States
vs.
William J Cruikshank et al.

Charge of Hon WB Woods, circuit judge, delivered to the petit jury in the Grant Parish massacre case, referred to in the testimony of Mr Beckwith.

THE GRANT PARISH PRISONERS TRIAL--IN THE UNITED STATES CIRCUIT COURT--JUDGE
WOODS'S CHARGE--WAITING FOR THE VERDICT

...JR Beckwith, United States attorney, for the prosecution.
RH Marr w.R. Whittaker, E.J. Ellis, M. Ryan and-- Bryan, for the defense.

The United States vs William J. Cruikshank and others--Judge Woods,[later associate justice of the U.S. Supreme Court (1880–87)], charged the jury as follows:

"...The second count charges a banding together of the indicted parties with the intent to injure, oppress, threaten, and intimidate Nelson and Tillman, with the purpose to hinder and prevent them in the free exercise and enjoyment of their constitutional right to bear arms for a lawful purpose..."

"The right to bear arms is also a right protected by the Constitution and laws of the United States. Every citizen of the United States has the right to bear arms, provided it is done for a lawful purpose and in a lawful manner. A man who carries his arms openly, and for his own protection, or for any other lawful purpose, has as clear a right to do so as to carry his own watch or wear his own hat."
http://gunshowonthenet.blogspot.com/2013/04/t...

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#133 Apr 30, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
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Her's one for you to choke on:
Maybe you can teach him how to hold in the mouth without choking, GayDavy?

PS: If you don't like the Second Amendment the way it is, GayDavy, why don't you try to change it to your version?

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#134 Apr 30, 2013
He was wrote:
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referring to the British coming back, dummy
GayDavy doesn't actually read any of the "quotes" he copies and pastes and doesn't bother to check if they are not relevant.

They have "guns" and "freedom" in there someplace and it doesn't bother him that so far he mostly quotes people who owned slaves.

Or traitors to this country.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#135 Apr 30, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
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- Elbridge Gerry,
dead 199 years ago.

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#136 Apr 30, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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dead 199 years ago.
"The prospect of tyranny may not grab the headlines the way vivid stories of gun crime routinely do. But few saw the Third Reich coming until it was too late. The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed -- where the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once."--Judge Alex Kozinski,[Silviera v. Lockyer, 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, 2003.]

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