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Gabrielle Giffords makes another trek for gun control

There are 17 comments on the Ledger-Enquirer.com story from Jul 5, 2013, titled Gabrielle Giffords makes another trek for gun control. In it, Ledger-Enquirer.com reports that:

After a compromise Senate bill expanding background checks failed to reach the necessary 60-vote threshold in April, Giffords and her husband, former astronaut Mark Kelly, took to the skies Monday to travel across the country in hopes of re-energizing supporters of tightened gun control.

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#1 Jul 6, 2013
just how more "tighter" does she want gun control to be?

in california, it's already so tight, you can't do shit. and all the new laws have hardly dented the levels of crime.
Mayela

Union City, GA

#2 Jul 6, 2013
Ask a cop on the beat how criminals get guns and you're likely to hear this hard boiled response: "They steal them." But this street wisdom is wrong, according to one frustrated Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) agent who is tired of battling this popular misconception.

In fact, there are a number of sources that allow guns to fall into the wrong hands, with gun thefts at the bottom of the list. Wachtel says one of the most common ways criminals get guns is through straw purchase sales. A straw purchase occurs when someone who may not legally acquire a firearm, or who wants to do so anonymously, has a companion buy it on their behalf. According to a 1994 ATF study on "Sources of Crime Guns in Southern California," many straw purchases are conducted in an openly "suggestive" manner where two people walk into a gun store, one selects a firearm, and then the other uses identification for the purchase and pays for the gun. Or, several underage people walk into a store and an adult with them makes the purchases. Both of these are illegal activities.

The next biggest source of illegal gun transactions where criminals get guns are sales made by legally licensed but corrupt at-home and commercial gun dealers. Several recent reports back up Wachtel's own studies about this, and make the case that illegal activity by those licensed to sell guns, known as Federal Firearms Licensees (FFLs), is a huge source of crime guns and greatly surpasses the sale of guns stolen from John Q. Citizen.

According to a recent ATF report, there is a significant diversion to the illegal gun market from FFLs. The report states that "of the 120,370 crime guns that were traced to purchases from the FFLs then in business, 27.7 % of these firearms were seized by law enforcement in connection with a crime within two years of the original sale. This rapid `time to crime' of a gun purchased from an FFL is a strong indicator that the initial seller or purchaser may have been engaged in unlawful activity."

Another large source of guns used in crimes are unlicensed street dealers who either get their guns through illegal transactions with licensed dealers, straw purchases, or from gun thefts. These illegal dealers turn around and sell these illegally on the street. An additional way criminals gain access to guns is family and friends, either through sales, theft or as gifts.

the study acknowledges gun theft is common, with 13 percent of all arrestees interviewed admitting that they had stolen a gun. However a key finding is that "the illegal market is the most likely source" for these people to obtain a gun. "In fact, more than half the arrestees say it is easy to obtain guns illegally," the report states. Responding to a question of how they obtained their most recent handgun, the arrestees answered as follows: 56% said they paid cash; 15% said it was a gift; 10% said they borrowed it; 8% said they traded for it; while 5% only said that they stole it.

ATF officials say that only about 8% of the nation's 124,000 retail gun dealers sell the majority of handguns that are used in crimes. They conclude that these licensed retailers are part of a block of rogue entrepreneurs tempted by the big profits of gun trafficking. Cracking down on these dealers continues to be a priority for the ATF. What's needed, according to Wachtel, is better monitoring of the activities of legally licensed gun dealers. This means examining FFL paperwork to see where their guns are coming from, and making sure that those guns are being sold legally. But he says, "Let's be honest. If someone wants a gun, it's obvious the person will not have difficulty buying a gun, either legally or through the extensive United States black market."
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Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#3 Jul 6, 2013
According to a recent ATF report, there is a significant diversion to the illegal gun market from FFLs. The report states that "of the 120,370 crime guns that were traced to purchases from the FFLs then in business, 27.7 % of these firearms were seized by law enforcement in connection with a crime within two years of the original sale. This rapid `time to crime' of a gun purchased from an FFL is a strong indicator that the initial seller or purchaser may have been engaged in unlawful activity."

We know that 90% of all Hispanic people that cannot speak English and are pulled over for driving without a license are illegal aliens yet this "strong indicator" must be ignored. Seems like profiling is O.K. when it supports certain causes.
JKX

Lehighton, PA

#4 Aug 4, 2013
Asian Guy wrote:
just how more "tighter" does she want gun control to be?
in california, it's already so tight, you can't do shit. and all the new laws have hardly dented the levels of crime.
The real motive here is people control..once American's are disarmed they will become controlled (a historical fact).. and our Constitution will be destroyed..
Tray

Nettleton, MS

#5 Aug 5, 2013
SAN JUAN – Assailants in uniform entered a Puerto Rican police armory early Tuesday and stole some 100 guns, authorities said.
Tray

Nettleton, MS

#6 Aug 5, 2013
Crime is one of the main problems on the Caribbean island, a U.S. commonwealth, where so far this year 777 murders have been committed.

The Puerto Rican police suffered a blow two weeks ago with the arrests of about 100 officers on accusations of corruption linked to drug trafficking.
Tray

Nettleton, MS

#7 Aug 5, 2013
Four 9mm guns have vanished from police officers’ lockers at the East Village station house — brazen thefts committed right under the noses of Internal Affairs Bureau investigators, sources said yesterday.

The crook has also taken cash, jewelry, two bulletproof vests and an iPad in 10 to 12 thefts from the seventh-floor locker room of the Ninth Precinct station house on East Fifth Street, the sources said.

IAB investigators have been on the case since the first gun theft was reported in February — yet the heists have continued.

Shocked officers say the IAB should focus more on the chance police guns got into the hands of criminals, and less on monitoring cops in traffic court — an effort begun last year in the wake of the Bronx ticket-fixing scandal.
Tray

Nettleton, MS

#8 Aug 5, 2013
(Memphis) Shattered glass still marks the spot where a truck was broken into Friday night in the parking lot of Sekisui Pacific Rim on Poplar near Perkins.
This wasn’t your average car break-in.

The 2004 Chevy Avalanche broken into belonged to an off-duty Memphis Police officer and had his police gear, including his department issued weapon and another gun, inside.

“I guess it’s Memphis. There are break-ins all the time. You have to be on your watch,” says Ryan McClain, a Sekisui customer.

The officer and a female came out of Sekisui around 10pm Friday and saw the shattered glass. That wasn’t all. The crooks were still in the parking lot, loading the stolen items into their car.

The female says the thieves actually almost ran over her as she tried to get the license plate number.
She had to jump out of the way to avoid getting hit.
The thieves circled the building and headed west on Poplar.
With them was the officer’s gun belt, uniform and badge, an MPD issued 40 caliber handgun, two loaded magazines, handcuffs, an MPD radio, another Ruger 9mm handgun, and a loaded 40-caliber Smith and Wesson magazine.
Tray

Nettleton, MS

#9 Aug 5, 2013
A Nashua police officer was disciplined after his gun was stolen from personal car in Manchester earlier this year.

Nashua Police Deputy Chief Andrew Lavoie declined to name the officer or specify how he was disciplined.

Lavoie said the firearm, a .40-caliber Smith & Wesson handgun issued to all city officers, was stolen from the officer’s car in Manchester on March 19. Lavoie said the officer had hidden the gun in the car, and thus it wasn’t in plain sight. The officer thought he had locked the car, but was no damage was done to it from the break-in, Lavoie said.
Tray

Nettleton, MS

#10 Aug 5, 2013
BRENTWOOD, Calif.(KGO)-- In Contra Costa County, a number of homes in Brentwood belonging to police officers have been burglarized and even worse, the intruders have stolen firearms. The most recent one of these burglaries happened Tuesday.

Police say getting these burglars is a very high priority for them. They don't have specific evidence that the burglars are targeting the homes of police, but everyone knows, the burglars included, that there is a high likelihood that firearms could be found in those residences.

Since the beginning of the year, there have been 25 burglaries in Brentwood, almost twice the number during the same time last year. They've stolen jewelry, electronics, and most disturbing of all, firearms.
Tray

Nettleton, MS

#11 Aug 5, 2013
The U.S. Park Police is failing to adequately keep track of its firearms, creating an environment in which weapons are vulnerable to theft or misuse, according to a government report released Friday.

Due to "a lackadaisical attitude toward firearms management" by commanders, investigators said they found "credible evidence of conditions that would allow for theft and misuse of firearms, and the ability to conceal the fact if weapons were missing."

In a force of approximately 640 officers, the report says, hundreds of weapons were not properly accounted for. The auditors also allege that the agency has more than 1,400 extra weapons, including 477 military-style automatic and semiautomatic rifles.
Tray

Nettleton, MS

#12 Aug 5, 2013
HUNDREDS of guns that went missing from Police, and HUNDREDS MORE that appeared without any records of their existence
Tray

Nettleton, MS

#13 Aug 5, 2013
INDIANAPOLIS (WISH) - M-16’s, M-14’s, shotguns and handguns once used on battlefields around the world were donated to local police departments to help protect Indiana streets. But, I-Team 8 discovered dozens of them have vanished without a trace.
Tray

Nettleton, MS

#14 Aug 5, 2013
11 Indiana police departments have been reinstated to a federal surplus program that provides used military weapons to local police departments. But, despite the lift in their suspensions, I Team 8 found some departments are now missing more guns than they were before.

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#15 Aug 5, 2013
it appears we have problems of corruption in the police force.

“BLM domestic terrorist group”

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#16 Aug 5, 2013
SHOW MONKEY!!! Where is her tin cup?!
americanvoter55

Newnan, GA

#18 Aug 6, 2013
Ohh gabby you poor dimwit mouthpiece for the left. Funny how your pal debbie wasserman putz thinks no one "needs" an AR or a 30 round magazine but according to Infinity....the maker of her car, her little SUV can do 146 MPH. Since she lives in Florida where the speed limit is 70MPH why would anyone "need" a car that can do 146MPH??? Gee gaby....do you think you could get debbie to answer that question?

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