MILITIA means what it did in 1791, am...

MILITIA means what it did in 1791, amend it to change it

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Since: Apr 11

Warwick, MA

#1 Jan 30, 2014
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Congress has no power to change meaning or definition of words used in the Constitution……….an amendment is required.
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MILITIA means what it did in 1791 and can only be redefined by an amendment.
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If words can be redefined without amending, then the Constitution means nothing.
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Since: Jan 14

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#3 Jan 30, 2014
Zagnut13 wrote:
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Congress has no power to change meaning or definition of words used in the Constitution……….an amendment is required.
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MILITIA means what it did in 1791 and can only be redefined by an amendment.
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If words can be redefined without amending, then the Constitution means nothing.
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Militia Act of 1792.

VI. And be it further enacted, That there shall be an adjutant general appointed in each state, whose duty it shall be to distribute all orders for the Commander in Chief of the State to the several corps; to attend all publick reviews, when the Commander in Chief of the State shall review the militia, or any part thereof; to obey all orders from him relative to carrying into execution, and perfecting, the system of military discipline established by this Act; to furnish blank forms of different returns that may be required; and to explain the principles of which they should be made; to receive from the several officers of the different corps throughout the state, returns of the militia under their command, reporting the actual situation of their ARMS, accoutrements, and ammunition, their delinquencies, and every other thing which relates to the general advancement of good order and discipline: All which, the several officers of the division, brigades, regiments, and battalions are hereby required to make in the usual manner, so that the said adjutant general may be duly furnished therewith: From all which returns be shall make proper abstracts, and by the same annually before the Commander in Chief of the State.
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X. And be it further enacted, That it shall be the duty of the brigade inspector, to attend the regimental and battalion meeting of the militia composing their several brigades, during the time of their being under arms, to inspect THEIR ARMS, ammunition and accoutrements; superintend their exercise and maneuvres and introduce the system of military discipline before described, throughout the brigade, agreeable to law, and such orders as they shall from time to time receive from the commander in Chief of the State; to make returns to the adjutant general of the state at least once in every year, of the militia of the brigade to which he belongs, reporting therein the actual situation of the arms, accoutrement, and ammunition, of the several corps, and every other thing which, in his judgment, may relate to their government and general advancement of good order and military disciple; an adjutant general shall make a return of all militia of the state, to the Commander in Chief of the said state, and a duplicate of the same to the president of the United States.
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Gun registration, anyone? It's funny how no-one considered that his Second Amendment right was being infringed upon.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#5 Jan 30, 2014
Bob2bob too wrote:
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Militia Act of 1792.
VI. And be it further enacted, That there shall be an adjutant general appointed in each state, whose duty it shall be to distribute all orders for the Commander in Chief of the State to the several corps; to attend all publick reviews, when the Commander in Chief of the State shall review the militia, or any part thereof; to obey all orders from him relative to carrying into execution, and perfecting, the system of military discipline established by this Act; to furnish blank forms of different returns that may be required; and to explain the principles of which they should be made; to receive from the several officers of the different corps throughout the state, returns of the militia under their command, reporting the actual situation of their ARMS, accoutrements, and ammunition, their delinquencies, and every other thing which relates to the general advancement of good order and discipline: All which, the several officers of the division, brigades, regiments, and battalions are hereby required to make in the usual manner, so that the said adjutant general may be duly furnished therewith: From all which returns be shall make proper abstracts, and by the same annually before the Commander in Chief of the State.
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X. And be it further enacted, That it shall be the duty of the brigade inspector, to attend the regimental and battalion meeting of the militia composing their several brigades, during the time of their being under arms, to inspect THEIR ARMS, ammunition and accoutrements; superintend their exercise and maneuvres and introduce the system of military discipline before described, throughout the brigade, agreeable to law, and such orders as they shall from time to time receive from the commander in Chief of the State; to make returns to the adjutant general of the state at least once in every year, of the militia of the brigade to which he belongs, reporting therein the actual situation of the arms, accoutrement, and ammunition, of the several corps, and every other thing which, in his judgment, may relate to their government and general advancement of good order and military disciple; an adjutant general shall make a return of all militia of the state, to the Commander in Chief of the said state, and a duplicate of the same to the president of the United States.
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Gun registration, anyone? It's funny how no-one considered that his Second Amendment right was being infringed upon.
Registration to ensure that every able-bodied person was ARMED. Not to give the govt a comprhensive list for confiscation at a later date, such as we have now.

Try again, Bob.

Since: Jan 14

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#6 Jan 30, 2014
Armed Veteran wrote:
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Try again, Bob.
Ok.

Militia Act of 1792.

VI. And be it further enacted, That there shall be an adjutant general appointed in each state, whose duty it shall be to distribute all orders for the Commander in Chief of the State to the several corps; to attend all publick reviews, when the Commander in Chief of the State shall review the militia, or any part thereof; to obey all orders from him relative to carrying into execution, and perfecting, the system of military discipline established by this Act; to furnish blank forms of different returns that may be required; and to explain the principles of which they should be made; to receive from the several officers of the different corps throughout the state, returns of the militia under their command, reporting the actual situation of their ARMS, accoutrements, and ammunition, their delinquencies, and every other thing which relates to the general advancement of good order and discipline: All which, the several officers of the division, brigades, regiments, and battalions are hereby required to make in the usual manner, so that the said adjutant general may be duly furnished therewith: From all which returns be shall make proper abstracts, and by the same annually before the Commander in Chief of the State.
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X. And be it further enacted, That it shall be the duty of the brigade inspector, to attend the regimental and battalion meeting of the militia composing their several brigades, during the time of their being under arms, to inspect THEIR ARMS, ammunition and accoutrements; superintend their exercise and maneuvres and introduce the system of military discipline before described, throughout the brigade, agreeable to law, and such orders as they shall from time to time receive from the commander in Chief of the State; to make returns to the adjutant general of the state at least once in every year, of the militia of the brigade to which he belongs, reporting therein the actual situation of the arms, accoutrement, and ammunition, of the several corps, and every other thing which, in his judgment, may relate to their government and general advancement of good order and military disciple; an adjutant general shall make a return of all militia of the state, to the Commander in Chief of the said state, and a duplicate of the same to the president of the United States.

Since: Jan 14

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#7 Jan 30, 2014
Where Is My America wrote:
<quoted text>Were you alive in 1792 to survey opinions ?
Come on. Someone somewhere along the line would have raised an objection. NOTHING.

“shall NOT be infringed”

Since: Oct 13

Phoenix

#8 Jan 30, 2014
"Mr. MADISON thought the regulation of the militia naturally appertaining to the authority charged with the public defence...."-- August 18.(1787), The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adoption of the Federal Constitution [Elliot's Debates, Vol. 5]

“...On motion to amend article the fifth, by inserting these words,'for the common defence,' next to the words 'bear arms:'"

“It passed in the negative."

“On motion to strike out of this article, line the second, these words,'the best,' and insert in lieu thereof 'necessary to the:'"

“It passed in the affirmative."

“On motion, on article the fifth, to strike out the word 'fifth,' after 'article the,' and insert 'fourth,' and to amend the article to read as follows:'A well regulated militia being the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.'"

“It passed in the affirmative....”

- Journal of the Senate of the United States of America, WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 9, 1789.

Goodbye,'bob'.

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