People do not need assault weapons: defense secretary

Jan 17, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Reuters

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta joined the gun control debate on Thursday when he told troops at a military base in Italy that only soldiers needed armor-piercing bullets or assault weapons.

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The NRA put the gun he used to turn those children into hamburger in his hands.
Liar...try again.

“The guns Lanza used were apparently purchased by Nancy Lanza, he said. Despite news reports that Adam Lanza had tried to buy at least one gun before the rampage, there is no indication that he attempted a purchase and was denied, Sedensky said.”

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The NRA fought and continues to fight background checks that could have prevented this tragedy.
Liar...try again.

“The guns Lanza used were apparently purchased by Nancy Lanza, he said. Despite news reports that Adam Lanza had tried to buy at least one gun before the rampage, there is no indication that he attempted a purchase and was denied, Sedensky said.”

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/201...
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The NRA blames video games and pledges to do absolutely nothing to stop future massacres.
Liar…try again.

Seems the Secret Service also lays some blame on video games…hhhhmmmmm

THE FINAL REPORT AND FINDINGS OF THE SAFE SCHOOL INITIATIVE:

IMPLICATIONS FOR THE PREVENTION OF SCHOOL ATTACKS IN THE UNITED STATES

UNITED STATES SECRET SERVICE AND UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION

“Finding
Over half of the attackers demonstrated some interest in violence, through movies,
video games, books, and other media (59 percent, n=24). However, there was no
one common type of interest in violence indicated. Instead, the attackers’ interest in
violent themes took various forms.
Explanation
• Approximately one-quarter of the attackers had exhibited an interest in violent
movies (27 percent, n=11).
• Approximately one-quarter of the attackers had exhibited an interest in violent
books (24 percent, n=10).
• One-eighth of the attackers exhibited an interest in violent video games (12
percent, n=5).
• The largest group of attackers exhibited an interest in violence in their own
writings, such as poems, essays, or journal entries (37 percent, n=15).

http://www.secretservice.gov/ntac_ssi.shtml

“WASHINGTON -- The head of the NRA's controversial bid to place armed guards in schools nationwide said the effort is serious and not simply window dressing in the wake of the Newtown school shootings.”
Responding to criticism that the National Rifle Association was "tone deaf" in proposing deployment of qualified volunteers in schools, former U.S. Rep. Asa Hutchinson, R-Ark., said he is solely interested in preventing repetitions of Newtown,

The announcement drew wide ridicule from the White House and Democrats on Capitol Hill, with President Barack Obama telling NBC, "I am skeptical that the only answer is putting more guns in schools."
In the interview, Hutchinson insisted armed volunteers in schools is one of a laundry list of ideas that he and his team will consider as it prepares a set of recommendations on best security practices for schools to consider.
"What's important to me is that we don't start into this study with a closed mind," Hutchinson said.
Another option, Hutchinson said, is arming school personnel -- teachers and administrators -- who are interested in firearms training.
The idea of armed volunteers and teachers has evoked much caustic criticism from gun control proponents.

http://www.newstimes.com/local/article/NRA-sc...

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Sandy Hook killer = NRA member.
Same lie as before.
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Timothy McVeigh: Republican and Christian.
Didn't use a gun.
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Adam Lanza = future Republican and member of the NRA
Third time isn't a charm, it's still a lie.
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Common thread is: you are a liar.
PS: George Bush... Republican.
Common thread is: you are a PROVEN liar.

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The killer was a member of the NRA and in good standing.
The NRA put the gun he used to turn those children into hamburger in his hands.
The NRA fought and continues to fight background checks that could have prevented this tragedy.
The NRA blames video games and pledges to do absolutely nothing to stop future massacres.
The NRA issued a statement Thursday responding to the release of dozens of official police documents on Newtown, Conn., shooter Adam Lanza, saying that one of the items police found is not accurate. In searching Lanza's home, investigators found an NRA certificate registered in Lanza's name, as well as one in the name of his mother, Nancy Lanza. The NRA claims that the police records are false. "There is no record of a member relationship between Newtown killer Adam Lanza, nor between Nancy Lanza, A. Lanza or N. Lanza with the National Rifle Association. Reporting to the contrary is reckless, false and defamatory," the statement said. According to the documents, police found "Adam Lanza National Rifle Association Certificate" in a blue duffel bag. The official police documents detailed more than 100 items police found in Lanza's home. Read more: http://www.bu sines sinsider.com/nra-a dam-lanza-warrants -documents-nancy-2 013-3#ixzz2OrDDcEk w
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Which "excuse" can be used at Newtown, Colorado, etc?
Dear, Panetta and others have every right to speak up about the gun culture in this country.
Great isn't it that people are speaking up?
It's great all right.
What greater is that We the People have a right too.
The stinking administration we have needs to be ousted, and are proving exactly why we need them:
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government"
-- Thomas Jefferson

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Liar...try again.
“The guns Lanza used were apparently purchased by Nancy Lanza,
Spooge monkey: Lanza would not have purchased the assault weapons if the NRA had not fault the assault weapons ban.

Lick your lips, DL.

You have a schmutz.

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<quoted text>The NRA issued a statement
The NRA insists it doesn't inflate its memberships, i.e., its lifetime members are still alive.

Has the NRA opened it membership files?

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"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
-- Thomas Jefferson
No free man.

Thomas Jefferson owned 600 slaves and did not want the black man to own firearms.

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The case against the NRA:
New police documents were released today from the ongoing investigation into the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in Newtown, search records reveal shooter Adam Lanza had amassed a gigantic home arsenal. Among the items that were seized from the Lanza home:
1,600 rounds of ammunition, and numerous magazines, for various types of weapons.
An open gun safe, stocked with all sorts of ammo.
A sniper rifle and several hand guns.
Nine knifes, one bayonet, three samurai swords, and some kind of double-bladed spear
A rifle scope, binoculars and several holsters.
Various other items used by sports shooters and hunters, such as eye and ear protection, and paper targets and an NRA member ship certificate (the NRA denies it).
Video game consoles (including the first-person war game Call of Duty), multiple cell phones, and notes about local gun shops.
My understanding was that his crazy mom also had given him a present of a check which she wanted him to use to buy yet another gun. You simply cannot overestimate the poor judgement and obsessive nuttiness of the average gunner...

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Common thread is: you are a PROVEN liar.
Please stop pretending that you've EVER proven anyone a "liar" here. All you do is thump your sunken chest and gesticulate wildly as if you'd won great victories over those of us who laugh at your insanity.

You have not. Stop embarrassing yourself.

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Overseer58 wrote:
Dear Editor.
I know and appreciate Sen. Tim Johnson’s position on guns and the Second Amendment. I would ask him to ask the progressive liberals he is in contact with who are antigun and anti second amendment why is it the progressive liberals acquire guns, then kill [movie goers] and children in schools'? Why are no conservative NRA members involved in mass shootings?
Ft Hood Shooter: Reg­istered Democrat and Muslim.
Columbine Shooters: Too young to vote … both families were Registered Democrats and progressive liberals.
Virginia Tech shooter: Wrote hate mail to President Bush and to his staff. Registered Democrat.
Colorado theater shooter: Registered Democrat, staff worker on the Obama campaign, occu­py wall street participant .. progressive liberal.
Connecticut school shooter: Registered Democrat. Hated Christians.
Common thread is that all of these shooters were progressive liberal Demo-rats.
Curious, isn't it? So I was thinking, maybe we should just make it illegal for Demo-rats to buy guns.
Problem solved. I think that is a fair solution. After all. it is for the children too.
Peter Burkett Custer
Back any of these claims with facts, or you're a liar. Not ONE of these people was a "progressive Liberal Democrat." You are a slanderer and a turd.

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Yes, really, YOU are a liar. I told you, you couldn't show me where I was lying about your rant. You're an ignorant, violent, lying, POS, "frustrated control freak".
Again, when you demonstrate even ONCE that you've "proven" anything, we'll acknowledge it. Until then, you remain the typical ranting Rightie fool, full of bluster and bullshit but with absolutely NO knowledge of the truth, and no facts to offer.

Your closing sentence is in fact a vicious lie and slander directed at me, which shows not only your abject cowardice, but your own inability to tell the truth.

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Back any of these claims with facts, or you're a liar. Not ONE of these people was a "progressive Liberal Democrat." You are a slanderer and a turd.
Well... he was copy and pasting someone else so don't expect him to back anything, especially labeling killers as registered Democrats who were not even citizens of this country.

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<quoted text>The NRA issued a statement Thursday responding to the release of dozens of official police documents on Newtown, Conn., shooter Adam Lanza, saying that one of the items police found is not accurate. In searching Lanza's home, investigators found an NRA certificate registered in Lanza's name, as well as one in the name of his mother, Nancy Lanza. The NRA claims that the police records are false. "There is no record of a member relationship between Newtown killer Adam Lanza, nor between Nancy Lanza, A. Lanza or N. Lanza with the National Rifle Association. Reporting to the contrary is reckless, false and defamatory," the statement said. According to the documents, police found "Adam Lanza National Rifle Association Certificate" in a blue duffel bag. The official police documents detailed more than 100 items police found in Lanza's home. Read more: http://www.bu sines sinsider.com/nra-a dam-lanza-warrants -documents-nancy-2 013-3#ixzz2OrDDcEk w
Hmmm...who's lying, the police who investigated and have no real dog in the hunt...or the NRA, who are implicated in one of the worst mass shootings in American history and are desperate to deflect criticism and prevent gun regulation?

Hmmm...a puzzler, that one....:)

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Well... he was copy and pasting someone else so don't expect him to back anything, especially labeling killers as registered Democrats who were not even citizens of this country.
Like the NRA, these posters are desperate liars who will literally say ANYTHING to deflect criticism of their precious firearms.
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<quoted text>The NRA issued a statement Thursday responding to the release of dozens of official police documents on Newtown, Conn., shooter Adam Lanza, saying that one of the items police found is not accurate. In searching Lanza's home, investigators found an NRA certificate registered in Lanza's name, as well as one in the name of his mother, Nancy Lanza. The NRA claims that the police records are false. "There is no record of a member relationship between Newtown killer Adam Lanza, nor between Nancy Lanza, A. Lanza or N. Lanza with the National Rifle Association. Reporting to the contrary is reckless, false and defamatory," the statement said. According to the documents, police found "Adam Lanza National Rifle Association Certificate" in a blue duffel bag. The official police documents detailed more than 100 items police found in Lanza's home. Read more: http://www.bu sines sinsider.com/nra-a dam-lanza-warrants -documents-nancy-2 013-3#ixzz2OrDDcEk w
the NRA and his mother enabled the massacre and others? Why aren't they proud of him? Just because he didn't pay his dues?

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