Trayvon Martin Shooting Shows Perils of Lax U.S. Gun Laws

Mar 20, 2012 Full story: Bloomberg 9,570

The Justice Department opened an investigation this week into the killing of Trayvon Martin, a 17-year-old high school student who was shot dead on Feb.

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menards

Bordentown, NJ

#9661 Jun 26, 2013
Patriot wrote:
Jayne Surdyka testified today that Trayvon Martin was screaming for help before George Zimmerman shot him in the chest. She witnessed the altercation from her window. Jurors were seen wiping away tears during her testimony.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-575911...

“always”

Since: May 12

Ticklaw

#9662 Jun 26, 2013
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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It is more than Zimmerman's recount of what happened. The physical evidence supports that as well. It is also a witnesses recount of events. Remember John? He says it was a gangster style beat down with the one in the dark hoody on top and the one with the red shirt on bottom.
poof
There goes your speculation nonsense.
The neighbor's "eye witness" account showed that she witnessed nothing and modified her previous testimony in both a prior questioning AND a deposition. What she said in court yesterday was DIFFERENT than what she told the legal eagles on two prior occasions. The defense showed that her testimony was coached by the prosecution. It's akin to leading a witness.
Poof
another prosecution "witness" bites the dust.
Are you live streaming or do you live in the Central Florida area?

The jury will watch all these eye and ear witnesses and compare their info with George's previous statements and his full video reenactment. John, by the way, changed up his story when he realized that there were other neighbors who witnessed various parts of the encounter, he definitely had the best vantage point so it will be interesting to hear his testimony.

Keep in mind that none of these witnesses had a clue that this case would become high profile or that they would be interviewed by LE agencies and then attorneys who tend to phrase-pose their questions differently.

“always”

Since: May 12

Ticklaw

#9663 Jun 26, 2013
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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Oh that's nice.
You like to raise hell.
Thanks for sharing.
WTF is that supposed to mean? Are you bored today?

“always”

Since: May 12

Ticklaw

#9664 Jun 26, 2013
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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"What you're saying is that Trayvon decided to jump a guy who he had never seen, had no clue how large or what sort of health the guy was in or whether or not the guy might be armed."
That is what YOU clowns have been saying all along.
YOU clowns have said repeatedly that Martin HAD A RIGHT TO STAND HIS GROUND AND HE DID.
Poof
Gotcha in your own trap.
Bored and stoned?
menards

Bordentown, NJ

#9667 Jun 26, 2013
Patriot wrote:
<quoted text> Yeah I call her witness 0 Credibility. She wants to make it appear that she could tell it was the punks voice and not Zimmermans. BUT she claims there were 3 gun shots hahaha. The bitch is slanting her testimony. And outright lying too! There was only 1 gunshot. Her testimony doesn't count for shit!
Its not only conceivable, its very likely that she heard three gunshots given the location of the murder. In the confined back yard surrounded by houses gunshots will echo. 1 gunshot. 2 echos. Is this your first time at the rodeo, Clown?

“always”

Since: May 12

Ticklaw

#9668 Jun 26, 2013
Patriot wrote:
<quoted text> Yeah I call her witness 0 Credibility. She wants to make it appear that she could tell it was the punks voice and not Zimmermans. BUT she claims there were 3 gun shots hahaha. The bitch is slanting her testimony. And outright lying too! There was only 1 gunshot. Her testimony doesn't count for shit!
If you've been paying any attention you would already know that on one of the recorded 911 calls it sounded like two gunshots because of the echo or canyon effect.

The now famous DeeDee is testifying presently. Ooooh, this might be painful.
menards

Bordentown, NJ

#9671 Jun 26, 2013
Patriot wrote:
<quoted text> No you fool but an echo is an echo hardly a 3 shot burst. Besides a puny 9 at point blank range near the ground touching the bulk of a body would muffle what little noise there was. I think youidiots must be confusing her testimony with the Mozambique Drill! Next news you will have some Zulu tribal chief on the stand swearing he heard a barrage of machine gun fire hahaha. Oh I guess that's possible since there were houses nearby hahaha. GFY!
OHHH sounds like we are getting upset! Why does it sound like two gunshots on the 911 tape? One was an echo... an echo strong enough to get picked up by the mic on the phone and recorded on the 911 call. Not inconceivable, and actually likely, that neighbor Jayne heard three shots. Thats twice now.
--_--Supabeast-- _--

Denver, NC

#9672 Jun 26, 2013
menards wrote:
<quoted text>
Except for the FACT that martin ran FIRST, was chased into the back yard, then HAD to fight when there was no other option left.
Do you honestly think that a 28 year old, short, overweight, asthmatic guy can run down a 17 year old, tall, skinny football player?

The fight didn't happen until Zimmerman gave up the chase. Martin came from behind as Zimmerman was going back to his truck.

“always”

Since: May 12

Ticklaw

#9675 Jun 26, 2013
Patriot wrote:
Wow that sow #8 has got a NFL 21" neck on her. Hahaha Ol Trayboi like em a little bit massive!
Yeah she got off to a rough start but has hit her stride and is making Don West look stupid presently.

The phone minutes presented by the defense prove that she was on the phone with Martin just as neighbors were beginning to hear loud voices in the common area behind the town homes. Also of interest is that Trayvon told her that he was speaking from the area of the mailboxes which are next to the clubhouse in a covered kiosk.

Was he hiding from George there? Did George drive to the South end of Twin Trees Ln turn around and then encounter the youth again near the cut through?

*West is lost, just objecting to his own question. LMAO.

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#9676 Jun 26, 2013
luv Sarah Palin wrote:
<quoted text>
Liberals will use any opportunity to come after our right to bear guns.
Non-violent Christians don't like to see guns in the hands of those with obvious mental health issues.
spocko

Oakland, CA

#9679 Jun 26, 2013
Patriot wrote:
<quoted text> You sound like a sob just as lost and illiterate as that big fat coon sow hahaha. She hit her stride eh? That dum bitch cant read and write. Making West look stupid? Gimme a break hahaha. I take it your level of intelligence is rated by what height of tree you climb for your bananas too? This is hilarious. If I was George Id start the celebration tonite! Hahaha
You sure you wanna talk about intelligence Forrest? Sorry, but you 'are' pretty f-ing stupid

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#9680 Jun 26, 2013
Patriot wrote:
<quoted text> Typical liberal verbal bullshit. Destroying the Constitution of the United States if their objective. Along with breaking the bank. GFY!
Your filthy language and location prove that not only aren't you American, you're not Patriotic and you are living in a foreign country.

I am not liberal and it's a lie to say Americans will have their fire arms taken away, UNLESS they are nuts or commit murders and other crimes with them. You obviously are foreign and don't know Our Constitution.

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#9682 Jun 26, 2013
RuffnReddy wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah she got off to a rough start but has hit her stride and is making Don West look stupid presently.
The phone minutes presented by the defense prove that she was on the phone with Martin just as neighbors were beginning to hear loud voices in the common area behind the town homes. Also of interest is that Trayvon told her that he was speaking from the area of the mailboxes which are next to the clubhouse in a covered kiosk.
Was he hiding from George there? Did George drive to the South end of Twin Trees Ln turn around and then encounter the youth again near the cut through?
*West is lost, just objecting to his own question. LMAO.
As one newsperson noted, Rachel owns West. West became more and more confused and earlier the Judge pointed out that untl Rachel came on the stand, he had not complained about a visual obstruction. The Judge has West's number and he looks abashed each time she addresses him.

It's encouraging to see some posters explain to the riff raff with the filthy mouths what is actually happening in the court room. Their bigotry shows up their lack of reasoning.
Marauder

Valdez, AK

#9686 Jun 26, 2013
menards wrote:
<quoted text>
I dont feel it was out of line, I dont know what Matumbo has to do with anything. Simply, it doesnt follow.
<quoted text>
Not non sense, its the truth. Guns are not defensive tools. They are offensive weapons. Why else would you have one? Because you want to be able to pull it out and hope the other guy doesnt also have one, regardless of the situation.
<quoted text>
NO SHIT!
<quoted text>
NO SHIT! News flash for you buddy, noone else has said otherwise.
<quoted text>
You absolutely do. <smile>
"Not non sense, its the truth. Guns are not defensive tools. They are offensive weapons. Why else would you have one? Because you want to be able to pull it out and hope the other guy doesnt also have one, regardless of the situation."

ROTFLMAO...where do you come up with this BS...?

Let's not forget about the "offensive weapon" that TM had and was using when GZ defended himself.
Marauder

Valdez, AK

#9687 Jun 26, 2013
STARANGEL 20 wrote:
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Your filthy language and location prove that not only aren't you American, you're not Patriotic and you are living in a foreign country.
I am not liberal and it's a lie to say Americans will have their fire arms taken away, UNLESS they are nuts or commit murders and other crimes with them. You obviously are foreign and don't know Our Constitution.
You sir, apparently do not know the lengths that some “frustrated control freaks” will go to circumvent (infringe upon) our individual right to keep and bear arms.

“The ordinance gives owners of weapons or "large capacity magazines" 90 days to remove the items from city limits, permanently modify them to not fall under the law's definition, or surrender them to police for disposal. Violation of the ordinance will be considered a misdemeanor, that could include up to six months in jail or a fine of between $500 and $1,000.”

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/subu...

"President Obama’s hometown of Chicago started the movement late last year by enacting a $25 tax on new firearm purchases, which went into effect on April 1. Cook County stopped just short of adding a levy on ammunition."

"In February, Rep. Linda T. Sanchez, California Democrat, and 26 of the most uber-liberals in the House introduced a bill to amend the Internal Revenue Code to create an excise tax of 10 percent on any concealable gun in order to empower Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. to establish a firearms buy-back grant program."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/...

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#9688 Jun 26, 2013
Rachel Jeantel.....what a train wreck.
Patriot

Oaxaca, Mexico

#9689 Jun 26, 2013
Yep a locomotive cattle guard couldn't stop her hahaha. That sow must have a neck as big as her butt!

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#9690 Jun 27, 2013
Patriot wrote:
Yep a locomotive cattle guard couldn't stop her hahaha. That sow must have a neck as big as her butt!
I wasn't talking about her physically.
Charles Bronson

Saltillo, MS

#9691 Jun 27, 2013
The punk had a death wish. It's time we took back our neighborhoods. This time the punk didn't get away.
Patriot

Oaxaca, Mexico

#9692 Jun 27, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
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I wasn't talking about her physically.
Yeah I know but physically or mentally shes a lost cause. It must be relaxing to be so stupid and not know it. Ignorance is bliss!

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