Trayvon Martin Shooting Shows Perils of Lax U.S. Gun Laws

There are 20 comments on the Bloomberg story from Mar 20, 2012, titled Trayvon Martin Shooting Shows Perils of Lax U.S. Gun Laws. In it, Bloomberg reports that:

The Justice Department opened an investigation this week into the killing of Trayvon Martin, a 17-year-old high school student who was shot dead on Feb.

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#9167 Jun 4, 2013
WOW! been awhile! Trial is set to start and Zimmerman's lawyers are still up to antics! Got the popcorn, ready for the show!
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#9168 Jun 4, 2013
menards wrote:
WOW! been awhile! Trial is set to start and Zimmerman's lawyers are still up to antics! Got the popcorn, ready for the show!
I'm waiting on evidence George committed any crime. So far the state still admits they have no proof of a crime by Zimmerman. Zimmerman's lawyers don't have to say a word untill the state PROVES a crime.

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#9169 Jun 5, 2013
Tray wrote:
<quoted text> I'm waiting on evidence George committed any crime. So far the state still admits they have no proof of a crime by Zimmerman. Zimmerman's lawyers don't have to say a word untill the state PROVES a crime.
He got out of his truck and hunted him down. Should have stayed in his truck.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#9170 Jun 5, 2013
menards wrote:
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He got out of his truck and hunted him down. Should have stayed in his truck.
Prove it.

“O'er the land of the free ? ”

Since: Jan 09

Don't Tread On Me

#9171 Jun 5, 2013
menards wrote:
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He got out of his truck and hunted him down. Should have stayed in his truck.
Are you watching a Hollywood movie ?
Patriot

Oaxaca, Mexico

#9172 Jun 5, 2013
Z didn't hunt anyone down. Simply trying to keep an eye on where the perp was escaping to so he could advise the police. Z didn't even pull his gun until his life was in danger. If he had brandished his firearm the savage would have retreated not advanced to brutally attack. Anyway Z will walk and the welfare addicts will have another excuse to loot and rob. Keep your powder dry and take full advantage of targets in you home area. Wish I was there. Any citizens feel the need for hired protective services? Have arsenal, training and experience. For hire.
menards wrote:
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He got out of his truck and hunted him down. Should have stayed in his truck.

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#9173 Jun 5, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
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Prove it.
That is the undisputed official account. Where have you been? Expert witness testimony that its trayvon screaming for help before he is murdered, testimony that O'mara publicly stated they have no answer for, is the smoking gun.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#9174 Jun 5, 2013
menards wrote:
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That is the undisputed official account. Where have you been? Expert witness testimony that its trayvon screaming for help before he is murdered, testimony that O'mara publicly stated they have no answer for, is the smoking gun.
Their are experts on both sides of the court saying that it cannot be determined with any certainty who was yelling for help. When Martin's father listened to the tape for the first time, even HE admitted that it was NOT Trayvon calling for help. And why would the person who is on top of someone else beating their head into the ground be calling for help???

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#9175 Jun 5, 2013
Patriot wrote:
Z didn't hunt anyone down. Simply trying to keep an eye on where the perp was escaping to so he could advise the police.
Exactly what he was told "not to do" by the police.
Patriot wrote:
Z didn't even pull his gun until his life was in danger. If he had brandished his firearm the savage would have retreated not advanced to brutally attack.
A lot of speculation here....1) You dont know when Zimmerman pulled out his gun 2) You dont know who attacked who "first" 3) Martin already retreated, Zimmerman pursued, into the back yard after he was told not to. 4) Martin did not lay a finger on Zimmermans gun, as Zimmerman intially stated, proof that Zimmermans account is, at a bare minimum, fabricated.
Patriot wrote:
Anyway Z will walk and the welfare addicts will have another excuse to loot and rob. Keep your powder dry and take full advantage of targets in you home area. Wish I was there. Any citizens feel the need for hired protective services? Have arsenal, training and experience. For hire. <quoted text>
Be careful what you wish for. While you may yearn to legally committ murder, and while some may be successful, there is no guarantee that you wont find yourself on the wrong side of an agrument one of these days...

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#9176 Jun 5, 2013
menards wrote:
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That is the undisputed official account. Where have you been? Expert witness testimony that its trayvon screaming for help before he is murdered, testimony that O'mara publicly stated they have no answer for, is the smoking gun.
And just because you have a smoking gun, it does NOT mean a murder was committed. Justifiable homicide is NOT murder. It has NOT been proven that a murder has occurred in this case.

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#9177 Jun 5, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
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And just because you have a smoking gun, it does NOT mean a murder was committed. Justifiable homicide is NOT murder. It has NOT been proven that a murder has occurred in this case.
We'll see about that, wont we, buddy!

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#9178 Jun 5, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
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Their are experts on both sides of the court saying that it cannot be determined with any certainty who was yelling for help. When Martin's father listened to the tape for the first time, even HE admitted that it was NOT Trayvon calling for help. And why would the person who is on top of someone else beating their head into the ground be calling for help???
If Zimmerman was so innocent, why would his defense team be lying and trying to fabricate evidence?

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#9179 Jun 5, 2013
menards wrote:
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We'll see about that, wont we, buddy!
Yep. Based on the evidence that has been released to date, this is Zimmerman's case to lose.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#9180 Jun 5, 2013
menards wrote:
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If Zimmerman was so innocent, why would his defense team be lying and trying to fabricate evidence?
No clue.

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#9182 Jun 5, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
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No clue.
Me either...Trying to beat a murder conviction perhaps? Zimmerman has acted in every way BUT the way of an innocent man sinse the minute he murdered the kid that night. In addition to the perjury proceedings coming down against Shellie once this trial is over, I would also expect the Florida Bar to come down on Zimmerman's defense team for their ethical misconduct displayed during this circus.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#9183 Jun 5, 2013
menards wrote:
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Me either...Trying to beat a murder conviction perhaps? Zimmerman has acted in every way BUT the way of an innocent man sinse the minute he murdered the kid that night. In addition to the perjury proceedings coming down against Shellie once this trial is over, I would also expect the Florida Bar to come down on Zimmerman's defense team for their ethical misconduct displayed during this circus.
All the evidence they need to beat a murder rap has already been released. That is, unless the prosecution has some bombshell that hasn't been released to the public yet. And I will freely admit that it is entirely possible. i am basing my opinion on this case strictly on what has been presented thus far. You, on the other hand, seem to have already reached your conclusion without the necessary proof that this indeed was a murder.
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#9184 Jun 6, 2013
menards wrote:
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If Zimmerman was so innocent, why would his defense team be lying and trying to fabricate evidence?
If Zimmerman was so guilty then why did the press, panthers, state, and you need to lie about the facts. The police didn't issue a lawful order "to stay in his truck". There is no evidence Zimmerman touched, spoke, confronted, made any threat first. The yelling is irrelevant because Trayvon had no wounds so very unlikely was he under attack. George had injuries so logic dictates HE was under attack. Any attempt by the state to claim otherwise just makes them look more desperate. George will walk, the have lawsuits against all those who falsely lied and degraded his reputation (possibly many on public forums). After millions are paid to him in these lawsuits most will think twice about railroading armed victims who defend themselves from violent criminals and thugs.
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#9185 Jun 6, 2013
WARNING. Making accusations you can't provide proof of, against a person on a public forum can lead to a lawsuit of defamation against one making the accusation.....Definition from Nolo’s Plain-English Law Dictionary
An untruthful statement about a person that harms the person's reputation or standing in the community.....Defamation—also called calumny, vilification, or traducement—is the communication of a false statement that harms the reputation of an individual, business, product, group, government, religion, or nation. Most jurisdictions allow legal action to deter various kinds of defamation and retaliate against groundless criticism.....

“O'er the land of the free ? ”

Since: Jan 09

Don't Tread On Me

#9186 Jun 6, 2013
Tray wrote:
WARNING. Making accusations you can't provide proof of, against a person on a public forum can lead to a lawsuit of defamation against one making the accusation.....Definition from Nolo’s Plain-English Law Dictionary
An untruthful statement about a person that harms the person's reputation or standing in the community.....Defamation—also called calumny, vilification, or traducement—is the communication of a false statement that harms the reputation of an individual, business, product, group, government, religion, or nation. Most jurisdictions allow legal action to deter various kinds of defamation and retaliate against groundless criticism.....
If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen.
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#9187 Jun 6, 2013
Where Is My America wrote:
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If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen.
Don't make claims of murder unless you can back them up with facts or you could be writing a fat check among other things. I personally would be very offended of someone who has no facts accused me of a crime on a public forum. I personally would consider legal action against that person. I also did and still do consider a violent attack on my person grounds for self defense. I suspect the verdict in this trial will not be the end but the beginning of Zimmerman's legal actions. I have a feeling many may have wished they had not jumped the gun in this case. Playing the race card may backfire this time and do more harm than good for those attempting to use it.

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