Area gun sales, fears rising

Nov 14, 2012 Full story: North Port Sun 7,569

Gun stores in Charlotte County have experienced increased sales since Election Day as local gun owners brace for an anticipated restriction of gun laws following the re-election of President Barack Obama.

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“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#6298 Apr 23, 2013
GGB wrote:
<quoted text>Thought you were on your way to talk to me in person? Isn't that where you left the threat last time?
I don't know. Post my post in its entirety, and we will see were we left it. I seem to recall requesting exact directions or an address, and getting,"oh just show up in town and ask for me".

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#6299 Apr 23, 2013
GGB wrote:
<quoted text>The second amendment means what the Supreme Court says it means, unless you elected yourself to be the interpretation guru?

Do you think that American citizens should be allowed to own land mines? Should I be able to place them in my yard with a no a no trespassing sign and call it defense of property should a girl-scout step on one.

This must be your interpretation of the second amendment, since it never mentions guns, and you choose to ignore the parts that don't suit your wishes.

Did you ever learn how to shoot those things safely? We don't want you to have another lost toe incident, you don't have too many left.
The second amendment says exactly what it says. You don't have to be an interpretation guru if you read it without political bias.

Is a land mine a bearable arm? Do you lay down and hold it until someone comes along and steps on it?

No, my interpretation is that we have the right to any bearable arms the military does.

Insults and jokes simply prove you have no facts or substance to stand on.
guest

Farmington, MO

#6300 Apr 23, 2013
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
<quoted text>The second amendment says exactly what it says. You don't have to be an interpretation guru if you read it without political bias.

Is a land mine a bearable arm? Do you lay down and hold it until someone comes along and steps on it?

No, my interpretation is that we have the right to any bearable arms the military does.

Insults and jokes simply prove you have no facts or substance to stand on.
At least you admit it's your interpretation.

My interpretation is that it gives an individual a right to a means to protect themselves and family, with weapons adequate to defense not offense.

But neither your nor my interpretation counts, because the same document that gives you the right to bear arms, gives our government the right to limit the types of arms you can own, and it gives the SCOTUS the right to determine if their actions are constitutional. Nobody else's interpretation of the constitution counts for crap.

So is this a democracy where we let the people elect people to determine our course of action, or is this communism where the will of the few should have more weight than the will of the many.

If you think when the founders wrote the second amendment they foresaw an AR15 with a hundred round clip in every household, in my opinion, your loopy.

Background checks are a no brainer for everyone except congress, and the few people with no common sense.

And we've been through this before you big talking pile of chicken crap.

You threaten me with coming to talk to me in person with your guns, and see who wins, then wine when I call you a few choice names. Whaaaa!!!!

Suck a tit!
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#6301 Apr 23, 2013
guest wrote:
<quoted text>
At least you admit it's your interpretation.
My interpretation is that it gives an individual a right to a means to protect themselves and family, with weapons adequate to defense not offense.
But neither your nor my interpretation counts, because the same document that gives you the right to bear arms, gives our government the right to limit the types of arms you can own, and it gives the SCOTUS the right to determine if their actions are constitutional. Nobody else's interpretation of the constitution counts for crap.
So is this a democracy where we let the people elect people to determine our course of action, or is this communism where the will of the few should have more weight than the will of the many.
If you think when the founders wrote the second amendment they foresaw an AR15 with a hundred round clip in every household, in my opinion, your loopy.
Maybe they did, maybe the didn't. Do you really believe that the founders looked into the next hundred years or so and seen muskets?

The founders included an amendment process for all changes that take place with time. However, that mood to make such changes would have to be so strong that it would pressure most of the representatives to make that change. Obviously, this isn't one of those issues.

My interpretation of the Second is that the founders wanted individuals to be able to protect themselves from all evil and that includes government. Yet you believe that we let the people we might need to protect ourselves from, tell us what kind of weapons we are allowed to have to do so????? Sorry, that just doesn't make sense.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#6302 Apr 23, 2013
GGB wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, you still fear the commie invasion, why don't you just say so. Get yourself a bunker decorate it like the fifties, and have fun.
The US Communist party not only backed DumBama both elections, but they praised him for his gun grab attempt. Doesn't that concern you the least bit?
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#6303 Apr 23, 2013
Protester wrote:
<quoted text>
People:
These idiots never get it right. Their lies are so pathetic and obvious.
Only other idiots would believe the cr@p about liberals fighting voter ID. In reality, everybody else knows they're fighting against Conservative career criminals trying to keep liberals from voting. Remember they're the ones who keep stuffing ballot boxes, rigging elections, etc. and have been doing it for decades.
If these idiots had a brain in their little heads, they'd never mention the subject, hoping everybody would just forget it. Maybe this poster is so dumb he doesn't have a clue about any of it.
They must know they're too dumb to vote, but talk is cheap. They'd cry like hel if political IQ test requirements ever became law.
Oh please. We Republicans beg you to bring it on. The party of the dead people vote. Your voters are so intelligent that they opt to live in the ghetto and inner cities. They don't even have the smarts to obtain an ID to vote. They are too stupid to find their way to the polling places, so Democrats send out busses to pick them up and take them back.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#6304 Apr 23, 2013
Protester wrote:
<quoted text>
Anybody can write cr@p, claiming it's based on facts.
The FACT is that it's unbelievably STUPID to blame any one person or party, which is what conservative morons do all the time.
On the other hand, I've repeated blamed just about everybody, depending on what the subject is.
It must be assumed, therefore, that conservatives are lying, deceiving, parroting lies, etc.
Brain-dead conservatives are so dumb they started blaming Obama before he even took office.
And now that he's been in office over four years, you and he are still blaming Bush. Which is more ridiculous?
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#6305 Apr 23, 2013
GGB wrote:
<quoted text>
You do realize that certain types of alcohol are still prohibited, and the governments control licensing of sellers, as well as place restrictions on who can buy it?
That's exactly the type of things that we are looking for in gun regulations, nobody sane is trying to ban every gun, and certainly nobody sane is trying to take the ones you already have.
The sane people believe in background checks for all transactions, and certain types of armament should not be allowed to be sold.
The second amendment never mentions guns, just "arms",
should every citizen have the right to own surface to air missiles?
The NRA will be happy to represent the international arms dealers also, as they only represent the sellers if guns now. All they need from the population is the fear that drives the sales.
You and your ilk have furnished that fear in abundance, I have never seen so many people so afraid of nothing in my life, it would be comical if it wasn't just so pathetic.
Sheep. Not to slaughter, but to the gun manufacturers.
Afraid of nothing, huh? I guess that's what the people of NY said:

http://www.ammoland.com/2013/04/new-york-gun-...

Should citizens be allowed to have surface to air missiles? Certainly, if they are being attacked with such weaponry. The citizen should always have more firepower than their enemies. What ridiculous gun laws do is strip law-biding citizens from such firepower leaving the criminal to overpower them. We know laws don't work on criminals. That's why they're criminals in the first place.
spocko

Oakland, CA

#6307 Apr 23, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
And now that he's been in office over four years, you and he are still blaming Bush. Which is more ridiculous?
We know you brain-dead wingnuz morons can't stand it but the Bush recession will not be over till it's over ... Romney was right!
Sir Bucking Fastard

UK

#6308 Apr 23, 2013
guest wrote:
<quoted text>
At least you admit it's your interpretation.
My interpretation is that it gives an individual a right to a means to protect themselves and family, with weapons adequate to defense not offense.
Then YOUR 'interpretation' is completely defunct.

Just ANY tool may be used offensively.
guest wrote:
But neither your nor my interpretation counts, because the same document that gives you the right to bear arms, gives our government the right to limit the types of arms you can own, and it gives the SCOTUS the right to determine if their actions are constitutional. Nobody else's interpretation of the constitution counts for crap.
WHERE in either the U.S. Constitution proper, or any of the Bill of Rights is ANY such thing stated?

According to United States v. Miller (No. 696) 26 F.Supp. 1002, no such thing as you state is true. In fact, quite the contrary.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/histori...
guest wrote:
So is this a democracy where we let the people elect people to determine our course of action, or is this communism where the will of the few should have more weight than the will of the many.
Since the United States of America is a REPUBLIC, then your assertions are without standing.
guest wrote:
If you think when the founders wrote the second amendment they foresaw an AR15 with a hundred round clip in every household, in my opinion, your loopy.
Do you presume to say that the Founder weren't visionary? Then do tell: What about U.S. Const. Art. I, Section 8, clause 8?
guest wrote:
Background checks are a no brainer for everyone except congress, and the few people with no common sense.
WHEN was the last time a 'background check' stopped a crime of violence from happening? GOT REFERENCES?
guest wrote:
And we've been through this before you big talking pile of chicken crap.
Projecting seems to be a rather common trait with people such as yourself. Since what you proffer as an 'argument' is beyond the pale weak, you engage in ad hominem.
guest wrote:
You threaten me with coming to talk to me in person with your guns, and see who wins, then wine when I call you a few choice names. Whaaaa!!!!
Suck a tit!
You come off as having been weaned on hind teat!
:-))
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#6309 Apr 23, 2013
spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
We know you brain-dead wingnuz morons can't stand it but the Bush recession will not be over till it's over ... Romney was right!
No, it won't be over until we get rid of the most anti-business President I've seen in my lifetime. I didn't care for Romney, but I will say that if he was elected, our economy would already be showing signs of improvement. But no. We elected a failure and will have four more years of 8% unemployment and the most government dependents in recent history.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#6310 Apr 23, 2013
guest wrote:
<quoted text>At least you admit it's your interpretation.

My interpretation is that it gives an individual a right to a means to protect themselves and family, with weapons adequate to defense not offense.

But neither your nor my interpretation counts, because the same document that gives you the right to bear arms, gives our government the right to limit the types of arms you can own, and it gives the SCOTUS the right to determine if their actions are constitutional. Nobody else's interpretation of the constitution counts for crap.

So is this a democracy where we let the people elect people to determine our course of action, or is this communism where the will of the few should have more weight than the will of the many.

If you think when the founders wrote the second amendment they foresaw an AR15 with a hundred round clip in every household, in my opinion, your loopy.

Background checks are a no brainer for everyone except congress, and the few people with no common sense.

And we've been through this before you big talking pile of chicken crap.

You threaten me with coming to talk to me in person with your guns, and see who wins, then wine when I call you a few choice names. Whaaaa!!!!

Suck a tit!
What is a militia comprised of?
What does a militia fight against?
Please show where that document gives the government the right to limit what kinds of arms the people can own. It blatantly states that the government can not limit the right of the people to keep and bear arms.
Yes the SCOTUS has the say on what is constitutional and what is not. They are not always correct, however. The people will grin and bear some of their mistakes, such as Obamacare. But a blatant abuse of the second amendment will likely result in an example of what it was intended for.
Yes we have been through this. You talk big from behind your computer screen, regardless of what name you are posting under.

“Sharia, NOT!”

Since: Jul 10

Hampton, VA

#6311 Apr 23, 2013
spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
We know you brain-dead wingnuz morons can't stand it but the Bush recession will not be over till it's over ... Romney was right!
O'Bama said the recession was over in 2010.
Are you saying he's wrong?

“Sharia, NOT!”

Since: Jul 10

Hampton, VA

#6312 Apr 23, 2013
guest wrote:
<quoted text>

But neither your nor my interpretation counts, because the same document that gives you the right to bear arms, gives our government the right to limit the types of arms you can own, and it gives the SCOTUS the right to determine if their actions are constitutional.
Wrong!!!!!
The Constitution tells the government what it can and cannot do. It does not limit what the people can do. There is no need for the SCOTUS to interpret anything. If they had have a brain they can simply read what the founding fathers meant in documents such as the Federalist Papers and the recorded minutes of drafting the document as well as letters and documents written by them preserved in history.

The right to bear arms was put in place to ensure the government does not rule the people. Period!

Pick up and read the Declaration of Independence. You'll get a grasp on how our founders felt about tyrannical rule and even tells you what was tyrannical about it: "He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good." Congress passes laws they don't need to obey.
"He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers." Ibid
"He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries." SCOTUS selections based upon biases and prejudices and not justice.
"He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance." Czars and O'Bamacare as well as welfare.
"He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures." To include DHS, ATF, National Guard and other Armed Forces save the Navy as sanctioned by the Constitution.
"He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation" The UN
"For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:" O'Bamacare was rejected by more than 54% of the people.
"For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences" Gitmo and military combatants.
"For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:" Superseding laws the the people pass such as banning same sex marriage.
"He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death," Sounds like being the worlds' police.
"He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us,"Always playing the race card or creating division among the citizenry thru class warfare.

I suggest you read it. Perhaps the scales will fall from your eyes and you will understand what freedom is really about.
spocko

Oakland, CA

#6313 Apr 23, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
No, it won't be over until we get rid of the most anti-business President I've seen in my lifetime. I didn't care for Romney, but I will say that if he was elected, our economy would already be showing signs of improvement. But no. We elected a failure and will have four more years of 8% unemployment and the most government dependents in recent history.
Reality:
Why is it that if you take advantage of a corporate tax break you're a smart businessman, but if you take advantage of something so your kids don't go hungry, you're a moocher?
The Reagan – Thatcher theory of "If you feed the horse enough oats, some will pass through to the road for the sparrows" has made the rich immensely more rich while the middle has stagnated and the poor got poorer.

Rightwing reality:
I am the misunderstood superhero of American capitalism, single-handedly creating wealth and prosperity despite all the obstacles put in my way by employees, government and the media. I am entitled to all the rights and privileges of running an American company, but owe no loyalty to America, to workers or the taxpayer!
Never underestimate the right-wingnuz capacity for gullibility and stupidity.

“Sharia, NOT!”

Since: Jul 10

Hampton, VA

#6314 Apr 23, 2013
BTW, the above post is aimed at everyone chosen to SERVE in Washington. Both parties are at fault.
spocko

Oakland, CA

#6315 Apr 23, 2013
Socialism is for Sissies wrote:
<quoted text>O'Bama said the recession was over in 2010.
Are you saying he's wrong?
Not exactly, he said it turned around which it has

“Protest / support the marchers”

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#6316 Apr 23, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
<quoted text>
The fact that you think the mainstream media is conservative speaks volumes about your political IQ. So, how is that experience over intelligence working out for you? Lol
To those of you who aren’t completely brainwashed by conservative lies, here are just a few links I already have.
I also notice DECADES AGO, that ABC, CBS, and NBC consistently have the same news stories, day after day. Since it’s not possible for them to accidentally cover the same stories every day, something was wrong. A person would have to be a total idiot to miss that.
(next post)

“Protest / support the marchers”

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#6317 Apr 23, 2013
Venezuela’s president Hugo Chavez demanded a return his country’s 160 tons of gold stored in New York Federal Reserve and European vaults. At the time, Chavez was portrayed in the media as some sort of nut. In retrospect, he may have been brilliant. He protected his country by refusing to believe the “big lie(s)” concerning gold and fiat dollars.
http://en.paperblog.com/germany-repatriates-g...

‘…media outlets like McClatchy started investigating, they were forced to admit that not a single person has been attacked or lost their lives as a result of the Afghanistan war documents that they originally claimed had blood on their hands.’
http://www.democracynow.org/2011/12/19/bradle...

The Federal Reserve Is A PRIVATELY OWNED Corporation
By Thomas D. Schauf © 1992
http://rense.com/ufo2/fedrez.htm
‘the FED started buying up the media in the 1930's and now owns or significantly influences most of it’
‘For the New World Order to create a one world government, they must control a central bank, eliminate the Constitution, end Christian values, disarm America, and control the media’
‘The same bankers who own the FED control the media and give huge political contributions to sympathetic members of Congress’
‘the Federal Reserve banks acting together have cost this country ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY THE NATIONAL DEBT SEVERAL TIMES OVER.’
‘Congressman Henry Gonzales, Chairman of a banking committee, introduces legislation to repeal the Federal Reserve Banking Act of 1913 nearly every year. It's always defeated, the media remains silent, and the public never learns the truth.’

Conservatives’ crisis of confidence
http://www.salon.com/2012/11/17/conservatives...
Clearly, the only explanation for all this delusion is that conservative media and campaign consultants, steeped in years of confidently lying about everything from global warming to the causes of the deficit, got a little too bold about their ability to create their own realities. The only question is whether conservatives will learn their lesson and exhibit more skepticism about their self-selected news media in the future.
The answer is almost surely no, for a very good reason: Conservative credulousness is so baked into the culture of the right that it could well be considered a defining feature. This has been true for as long as movement conservatism as we know it has existed, and there’s no real reason to think conservatives are going to sharpen up about this now.

Notice that whereas media companies usually suppress news about black people's murder by police
http://marylovesjustice.blogspot.com/2012/03/...

‘The racialization in perceptions of welfare is reinforced by the news media…’
http://prospect.org/article/truth-about-welfa...

Nobody trusts the mainstream media
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

It’s also been reported many times that local news programs only give about 22 seconds of serious news, 3 minutes about crime, etc. per half hour. Their goal is to entertain and keep the public viewing commercials.

“Protest / support the marchers”

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#6318 Apr 23, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
<quoted text>
I guess that's why all we hear is that its Bush's fault! Or maybe it's the Elite! It's the Republicans! It's the conservatives!
Why don't you point out where you have spread the blame past one person or one party.
I usually ignore people who are this dense, but AGAIN, I have blamed just about everybody for what they've done.
No, I'm not going to make a list for you just because you're a village idiot, especially when I know that you‘re going to come up with some equally stupid comment/accusation/lies.

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