Area gun sales, fears rising

Nov 14, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: North Port Sun

Gun stores in Charlotte County have experienced increased sales since Election Day as local gun owners brace for an anticipated restriction of gun laws following the re-election of President Barack Obama.

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LOL ... what was I thinking your info is clear as mud ...
I understand. You lack the intelligence to understand information presented to you.

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<quoted text>lol! Actually, asking for ID isn't a problem.
The problem is conservatives don't offer valid and reasonable ways for people to get them.
Clearly, conservatives made it a point in the last election to "bend" the election their way since they felt that's the only way they could get the votes.
Democrats passed here in Virginia, quite some time ago, the Motor-Voter Act. This was a means for anyone going to the DMV to obtain a driver's license OR ID the ease of registering to vote.
The thought was around the fact that most "poor" voters could not, did not, and chose not to go down to the Registrar's office to register to vote. Thus, creating a higher number of registered voters that would tend to vote Democrat. But, now it seems that asking for that same ID to vote is "racist"! LOL
These are the same folks that need a valid ID to obtain EBT cards, SSI benefits, SSA Survivor benefits, Medicare-Medicaid benefits, Section 8 housing and proof of identity to get........a drivers license.
You libbies are a hoot!
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<quoted text>Democrats passed here in Virginia, quite some time ago, the Motor-Voter Act. This was a means for anyone going to the DMV to obtain a driver's license OR ID the ease of registering to vote.
The thought was around the fact that most "poor" voters could not, did not, and chose not to go down to the Registrar's office to register to vote. Thus, creating a higher number of registered voters that would tend to vote Democrat. But, now it seems that asking for that same ID to vote is "racist"! LOL
These are the same folks that need a valid ID to obtain EBT cards, SSI benefits, SSA Survivor benefits, Medicare-Medicaid benefits, Section 8 housing and proof of identity to get........a drivers license.
You libbies are a hoot!
Well son, that's your claim. The funny thing is, you're equating voting rights to a driver's license.

Technically, there's nothing in the Constitution regarding ID's (for those idiots who want claim they're Constitutional purists)to begin with.

And as I said before, the problem I have is the lack of the way they implement the ID'ing process.

But keep in mind, it was the RNC that was caught illegally registering voters last... to the point their PAID people actually threw away people's registrations.

You should feel silly. But I'm sure you don't.
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Feb 27, 2013
 
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<quoted text>Well son, that's your claim. The funny thing is, you're equating voting rights to a driver's license.
Technically, there's nothing in the Constitution regarding ID's (for those idiots who want claim they're Constitutional purists)to begin with.
And as I said before, the problem I have is the lack of the way they implement the ID'ing process.
But keep in mind, it was the RNC that was caught illegally registering voters last... to the point their PAID people actually threw away people's registrations.
You should feel silly. But I'm sure you don't.
What is an acceptable way, in your estimation, for people to obtain an ID?

There's nothing in the Constitution regarding background checks, psychological evaluations, and registration of arms either.

"But keep in mind, it was the RNC that was caught illegally registering voters last... to the point their PAID people actually threw away people's registrations."
CITE?
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Feb 27, 2013
 
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<quoted text>You must have been missing all the news.
However, something as simple as Florida's closing the polls early is a good example. Or a place like Wisconsin who made no provisions for the elderly.
Who makes it to the classification of "elderly" in this country and doesn't have an ID?

Typical liberal corner-case argument.

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Feb 27, 2013
 
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>Well son, that's your claim. The funny thing is, you're equating voting rights to a driver's license.
I have done no such thing! It was Democrats that thought up the Motor-Voter deal. Perhaps you feel they equate the two?
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<quoted text>Technically, there's nothing in the Constitution regarding ID's (for those idiots who want claim they're Constitutional purists)to begin with.
The 15th, 24th and 26th Amendments allows Congress to enact legislation to protect voters that are Citizens of the United States for the purposes of voting.
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<quoted text>And as I said before, the problem I have is the lack of the way they implement the ID'ing process.
I think the purple finger voting idea is great! It worked in Iraq and prevented duplicate voting which is the ultimate fraud now anyway. Plus, peer pressure would force more voters to actually engage in the process. "What? No purple finger? Keep your complaints about government to yourself then!"
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<quoted text>But keep in mind, it was the RNC that was caught illegally registering voters last... to the point their PAID people actually threw away people's registrations.
ACORN was repeatedly caught in voter registration fraud. 4 folks paid by ACORN were found guilty right here where I live! So quit your projecting. Also an Ohio woman came forward and cheerfully proclaimed she voted multiple times for O'Bama. She was a Democrat, BTW.
We both know voter fraud occurs and I would hope you would want to put an end to it no matter where it occurs. I know I do.
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What is an acceptable way, in your estimation, for people to obtain an ID?
There's nothing in the Constitution regarding background checks, psychological evaluations, and registration of arms either.
"But keep in mind, it was the RNC that was caught illegally registering voters last... to the point their PAID people actually threw away people's registrations."
CITE?
"Republicans play defense over voter registration fraud

By Marc Caputo
mcaputo@MiamiHerald.com

President Barack Obama has received unexpected help from the unlikeliest of quarters: The Republican National Committee.

Devoted to bashing Obama, the RNC gave the president’s reelection campaign a political contribution of sorts by insisting that state parties, such as Florida’s, hire a vendor that’s now under investigation for voter-registration fraud by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement in as many as 10 counties involving at least 220 suspect forms.

Remember all that talk from Republicans about voter fraud?

Well, it ain’t just for ACORN anymore.

Now, instead of being on offense against Obama, Republicans are playing defense over voter-registration fraud. Some organized Republican voter-registration drives have virtually ground to a halt as Republicans fired the firm, Strategic Allied Consulting, in seven battleground states.

It’s such a mess that the Republican Party of Florida has filed an elections complaint against the Strategic Allied Consulting, which then turned around and bashed…. The Republican Party of Florida.

“When the Republican Party of Florida chose to make likely libelous comments about our effort and stated that the Republican National Committee suggested us as the vendor, the RNC was put in the unenviable position of ending a long-term relationship for the sake of staying focused on the election,” a company statement said this week.

“While we wish their comments yesterday would have more accurately addressed the situation, we understand the logic of ending distractions and winning elections. We wish our friends there nothing but success going forward,” the statement said.

The Florida Democratic Party couldn’t have paid for such a result: The RPOF bashing an RNC vendor that turns around and bashes RPOF for slander.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/09/30/3027663...
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Who makes it to the classification of "elderly" in this country and doesn't have an ID?
Typical liberal corner-case argument.
You're so clueless. You're claims override the good of the people so you can pander to the party....

http://www.wisconsingazette.com/wisconsin-gaz...

" Blocking the vote
GOP's voter suppression campaign ready for polls
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Written by Lisa Neff, Staff writer
Feb 10, 2012

The first year Ruthelle Frank voted, "Kiss Me, Kate" premiered in the theater, moviegoers buzzed about Technicolor and Harry S. Truman defeated Thomas E. Dewey in what is hailed as the greatest election upset of all time.

The 84-year-old resident of Brokaw, Wis., has voted in every election since 1948. And Frank intends to vote this year – provided she can get into a polling booth.

Frank is one of the plaintiffs in the federal suit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union of Wisconsin against the state's new voter photo ID law.

Frank is an eligible registered voter in the state, but she has no photo ID and lacks the certified copy of her birth certificate that's needed to obtain one.

Some might wonder why a woman who has lived in the same place for more than eight decades and has served on the village board since 1996 lacks a state photo ID.

The answer is: It's complicated.

And complications, along with discrimination and disenfranchisement, are what civil rights advocates have tried to eliminate from the voting system for years – since long before the federal Voting Rights Act of 1965.

The 2008 election, with the highest turnout in a presidential election in 60 years, suggested significant success in that effort. A wave of young voters went to the polls and results showed the most racially diverse turnout in U.S. history.

Block the vote

But with the rise of the Tea Party movement after that election, conservative state legislators moved to restrict voter access with reduced early voting periods, restrictions on registration drives and, most commonly, new requirements for photo IDs.

Fourteen states enacted voter suppression bills after the 2010 elections. The American Legislative Exchange Council, which gets funding from Wisconsin's political barons, the Koch brothers, provided templates.

"The 47-year-old Voting Rights Act has stood the test of time, but there are new obstacles to the ballot springing up in today's America," said Democratic National Committee vice chair Donna Brazile.

"The latest vogue in anti-suffrage legislation is mandatory photo ID laws," she added...."
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<quoted text>You're so clueless. You're claims override the good of the people so you can pander to the party....
http://www.wisconsingazette.com/wisconsin-gaz...
" Blocking the vote
GOP's voter suppression campaign ready for polls
FacebookTwitterDiggDeliciousSt umbleuponBuzz Up!Google BookmarksRSS Feed
Written by Lisa Neff, Staff writer
Feb 10, 2012
The first year Ruthelle Frank voted, "Kiss Me, Kate" premiered in the theater, moviegoers buzzed about Technicolor and Harry S. Truman defeated Thomas E. Dewey in what is hailed as the greatest election upset of all time.
The 84-year-old resident of Brokaw, Wis., has voted in every election since 1948. And Frank intends to vote this year – provided she can get into a polling booth.
Frank is one of the plaintiffs in the federal suit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union of Wisconsin against the state's new voter photo ID law.
Frank is an eligible registered voter in the state, but she has no photo ID and lacks the certified copy of her birth certificate that's needed to obtain one.
Some might wonder why a woman who has lived in the same place for more than eight decades and has served on the village board since 1996 lacks a state photo ID.
The answer is: It's complicated.
And complications, along with discrimination and disenfranchisement, are what civil rights advocates have tried to eliminate from the voting system for years – since long before the federal Voting Rights Act of 1965.
The 2008 election, with the highest turnout in a presidential election in 60 years, suggested significant success in that effort. A wave of young voters went to the polls and results showed the most racially diverse turnout in U.S. history.
Block the vote
But with the rise of the Tea Party movement after that election, conservative state legislators moved to restrict voter access with reduced early voting periods, restrictions on registration drives and, most commonly, new requirements for photo IDs.
Fourteen states enacted voter suppression bills after the 2010 elections. The American Legislative Exchange Council, which gets funding from Wisconsin's political barons, the Koch brothers, provided templates.
"The 47-year-old Voting Rights Act has stood the test of time, but there are new obstacles to the ballot springing up in today's America," said Democratic National Committee vice chair Donna Brazile.
"The latest vogue in anti-suffrage legislation is mandatory photo ID laws," she added...."
One-sided propaganda piece by a political hack "staff writer".

Funny, the person you cite had a bigger problem: getting to the polling place...

Now why do you think the ACLU would go out of its wat to find "plaintiffs" in homeless shelters and the like? Do yoou think that these people represent an 50/50 cross-section of the political landscape, or do you think it's more like 100% Democrat?

BTW, is there any absentee voting in Wisconsin?
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"Republicans play defense over voter registration fraud
By Marc Caputo
mcaputo@MiamiHerald.com
President Barack Obama has received unexpected help from the unlikeliest of quarters: The Republican National Committee.
Devoted to bashing Obama, the RNC gave the president’s reelection campaign a political contribution of sorts by insisting that state parties, such as Florida’s, hire a vendor that’s now under investigation for voter-registration fraud by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement in as many as 10 counties involving at least 220 suspect forms.
Remember all that talk from Republicans about voter fraud?
Well, it ain’t just for ACORN anymore.
Now, instead of being on offense against Obama, Republicans are playing defense over voter-registration fraud. Some organized Republican voter-registration drives have virtually ground to a halt as Republicans fired the firm, Strategic Allied Consulting, in seven battleground states.
It’s such a mess that the Republican Party of Florida has filed an elections complaint against the Strategic Allied Consulting, which then turned around and bashed…. The Republican Party of Florida.
“When the Republican Party of Florida chose to make likely libelous comments about our effort and stated that the Republican National Committee suggested us as the vendor, the RNC was put in the unenviable position of ending a long-term relationship for the sake of staying focused on the election,” a company statement said this week.
“While we wish their comments yesterday would have more accurately addressed the situation, we understand the logic of ending distractions and winning elections. We wish our friends there nothing but success going forward,” the statement said.
The Florida Democratic Party couldn’t have paid for such a result: The RPOF bashing an RNC vendor that turns around and bashes RPOF for slander.
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/09/30/3027663...
LMAO, nice try. The RNC didn't do anything fraudulent as you claim.
At least they fired the consultants; DNC circled the wagons around ACORN and claimed it was a bunch of racially motivated crap.
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LMAO, nice try. The RNC didn't do anything fraudulent as you claim.
At least they fired the consultants.
Yes they did.
Then they turned around a hired him again when he started the same business under a different name.

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!

Wonder why in the h*ll you are not puking your guts up from all the lying spinning you do.
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LMAO, nice try. The RNC didn't do anything fraudulent as you claim.
At least they fired the consultants; DNC circled the wagons around ACORN and claimed it was a bunch of racially motivated crap.
What a cheep shot (what else would we expect). Neither ACORN nor its employees have been found guilty of, or even charged with voter fraud!!!!! ACORN was found not guilty of all charges made by the right-wing hatched men!!! The only thing ACORN is, or was, guilty of is the fact that they were the largest most successful national anti-poverty organization in America.

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"More Acorn Voter Fraud Comes To Light"

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1241827506461...
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What a cheep shot (what else would we expect). Neither ACORN nor its employees have been found guilty of, or even charged with voter fraud!!!!! ACORN was found not guilty of all charges made by the right-wing hatched men!!! The only thing ACORN is, or was, guilty of is the fact that they were the largest most successful national anti-poverty organization in America.
You need to find a new source for your information:

18 Former ACORN Workers Have Been Convicted or Admitted Guilt in Election Fraud
Published November 26, 2010

The scandal-plagued ACORN may no longer exist, but its tarnished legacy lives on in court, as the activist group and its former employees face criminal punishment.

So far this year, at least 18 former workers have admitted guilt or been convicted on varying charges of election fraud. The punishment has ranged from probation to several months of prison time.

ACORN, once a powerful advocate for low-income and minority voters, shuttered its operations amid plummeting revenues in March, six months after conservative activists posing as a pimp and prostitute caught on video some of the group's employees offering them tax advice.

But the group is still facing charges in Nevada on conspiracy to commit the crime of compensation for registration of voters.The trial, originally scheduled to begin Monday, has been postponed likely until next year.

Former workers across the country already are being punished for their criminal activities.
In Miami, seven former ACORN voter registration canvassers were convicted of "false swearing-in an election," and sentenced to probation and community service and banned from participating in future political campaigns, according to court documents.

In Pennsylvania, six of seven former ACORN workers who were charged in an investigation were convicted of unsworn falsification and interference with election officials. Four have reached a plea agreement on reduced charges and will serve two years of probation. Cases against two others who entered pleas to reduced charges are pending.

Charges against the seventh, Eric Jordan, are not being prosecuted because Jordan has pleaded guilty to much more serious charges, including aggravated assault, resisting arrest and carrying firearms without a license.

In Milwaukee, three former ACORN workers have been convicted of election fraud.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/26/ac...
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<quoted text>You must have been missing all the news.
However, something as simple as Florida's closing the polls early is a good example. Or a place like Wisconsin who made no provisions for the elderly.
Do Republicans own or solely operate the polls? I thought it was half and half. But do tell, did all Republicans show up early to vote? Were there no elderly Republican voters at these polls?
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What a cheep shot (what else would we expect). Neither ACORN nor its employees have been found guilty of, or even charged with voter fraud!!!!! ACORN was found not guilty of all charges made by the right-wing hatched men!!! The only thing ACORN is, or was, guilty of is the fact that they were the largest most successful national anti-poverty organization in America.
They were "found not guilty"? I thought they weren't charged?

BTW, who was running Justice?
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You need to find a new source for your information:
18 Former ACORN Workers Have Been Convicted or Admitted Guilt in Election Fraud
Published November 26, 2010
The scandal-plagued ACORN may no longer exist, but its tarnished legacy lives on in court, as the activist group and its former employees face criminal punishment.
So far this year, at least 18 former workers have admitted guilt or been convicted on varying charges of election fraud. The punishment has ranged from probation to several months of prison time.
ACORN, once a powerful advocate for low-income and minority voters, shuttered its operations amid plummeting revenues in March, six months after conservative activists posing as a pimp and prostitute caught on video some of the group's employees offering them tax advice.
But the group is still facing charges in Nevada on conspiracy to commit the crime of compensation for registration of voters.The trial, originally scheduled to begin Monday, has been postponed likely until next year.
Former workers across the country already are being punished for their criminal activities.
In Miami, seven former ACORN voter registration canvassers were convicted of "false swearing-in an election," and sentenced to probation and community service and banned from participating in future political campaigns, according to court documents.
In Pennsylvania, six of seven former ACORN workers who were charged in an investigation were convicted of unsworn falsification and interference with election officials. Four have reached a plea agreement on reduced charges and will serve two years of probation. Cases against two others who entered pleas to reduced charges are pending.
Charges against the seventh, Eric Jordan, are not being prosecuted because Jordan has pleaded guilty to much more serious charges, including aggravated assault, resisting arrest and carrying firearms without a license.
In Milwaukee, three former ACORN workers have been convicted of election fraud.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/26/ac...
Completely false, FAUX News is your source – how sad!!! What you’re attempting to do is nothing more than right-wingnuz pants wetting!!!
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/10/acorn-accusa...
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They were "found not guilty"? I thought they weren't charged?
BTW, who was running Justice?
You thought? There is new one ...
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Completely false, FAUX News is your source – how sad!!! What you’re attempting to do is nothing more than right-wingnuz pants wetting!!!
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/10/acorn-accusa...
You left out the most important par of your post: Updated on October 21, 2008

My story was from November of 2010. Nice try though.
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Do Republicans own or solely operate the polls? I thought it was half and half. But do tell, did all Republicans show up early to vote? Were there no elderly Republican voters at these polls?
lol! Hey! I'm sure you can work a poll "half and half" as long as you close them before people can vote.

I don't see the issue with your scenario. But that's for avoiding the point completely instead!

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