Conceal Carry Gun Owners Revealed

Conceal Carry Gun Owners Revealed

There are 55 comments on the WCTV Tallahassee story from Aug 31, 2011, titled Conceal Carry Gun Owners Revealed. In it, WCTV Tallahassee reports that:

A bill to loosen conceal carry restrictions drew dozens of police officers and sheriff's deputies to Tallahassee this past legislative session.

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“O'er the land of the free ? ”

Since: Jan 09

Don't Tread On Me

#1 Aug 31, 2011
Police are not the gun owners friend.
Deputy

United States

#2 Aug 31, 2011
Where Is My America wrote:
Police are not the gun owners friend.
Why do you put us all in the same boat? I am all for legal permit carry, as many other front line officers are.

“Constitutionist/ SAF”

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#3 Aug 31, 2011
Deputy wrote:
Why do you put us all in the same boat? I am all for legal permit carry, as many other front line officers are.
Which gun control laws do you support ?

What requirements to obtain a CC permit do you support or believe are neccessary ? Fingerprints ? Mental health background checks ?

“Constitutionist/ SAF”

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#4 Aug 31, 2011
Pigs don't serve and protect the public, they serve and protect their employer and themselves from the public.

“O'er the land of the free ? ”

Since: Jan 09

Don't Tread On Me

#5 Sep 1, 2011
Deputy wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do you put us all in the same boat? I am all for legal permit carry, as many other front line officers are.
You are in a para military job structure.

If cops are ordered to act like goons, they do.

You will be no different or face internal review or loss of job.

The battle cry of the. New Centurion

Taser

Taser

Taser

“O'er the land of the free ? ”

Since: Jan 09

Don't Tread On Me

#6 Sep 1, 2011
Deputy wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do you put us all in the same boat? I am all for legal permit carry, as many other front line officers are.
Permit carry???

Where is that in the second amendment.

You are part of the problem.
March1968

High Springs, FL

#7 Sep 1, 2011
If you read Kentucky's Constitution it is an 'almost' ideal one. Open carry is legal and protected by the state constitution. However, for concealed carry a permit is required. Here in Florida they call that the "Wild West." Yeah right. Compare the crime rate in Louisville and in Tampa, statistical wise it is much lower than Tampa, non statistical wise, and Louisville is a bigger city there is still less crime than in Tampa. Why is that? Could it be my neighbor has a Glock on his hip and I don't want to mess with him! Quite a few states have open carry and in each state the crime rate is less than in those states that do not allow open or concealed carry. I nearly got killed trying to protect the constitution in south east Asia in 1968, no one there complained about my 'open carry' and yet when I come home and want to open carry I'm an extremist or worse yet I'm paranoid or just plain out right cannot be trusted to open carry. Lets see I can open carry to protect you but I cannot open carry to protect me. Think about that people!!!

“O'er the land of the free ? ”

Since: Jan 09

Don't Tread On Me

#8 Sep 1, 2011
March1968 wrote:
If you read Kentucky's Constitution it is an 'almost' ideal one. Open carry is legal and protected by the state constitution. However, for concealed carry a permit is required. Here in Florida they call that the "Wild West." Yeah right. Compare the crime rate in Louisville and in Tampa, statistical wise it is much lower than Tampa, non statistical wise, and Louisville is a bigger city there is still less crime than in Tampa. Why is that? Could it be my neighbor has a Glock on his hip and I don't want to mess with him! Quite a few states have open carry and in each state the crime rate is less than in those states that do not allow open or concealed carry. I nearly got killed trying to protect the constitution in south east Asia in 1968, no one there complained about my 'open carry' and yet when I come home and want to open carry I'm an extremist or worse yet I'm paranoid or just plain out right cannot be trusted to open carry. Lets see I can open carry to protect you but I cannot open carry to protect me. Think about that people!!!
Excellent post!
sharkey

Louisville, KY

#9 Sep 1, 2011
Deputy wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do you put us all in the same boat? I am all for legal permit carry, as many other front line officers are.
Ever heard the phrase "One bad apple spoils the whole bushel"? Story after story comes out about bad cops:

Sheriffs in Florida trying to use their sidearms to intimidate the legislature into continuing human rights violations.

Violent thugs wearing badges in Canton, OH threatening beatings, murder and lifelong stalking, secure in the knowledge that the brass and prosecutor's office will cover for them.

SWAT team in Arizona murders a US Marine veteran in front of his family, and their sheriff covers for them.

Indianpolis officer gets drunk and rear-ends 3 motorcyclists, killing one, while on a 90mph run in a 35. IMPD attempts to cover it up, allowing the drunk officer to remove evidence from the scene and then administering an inadmissible blood draw hours after the wreck.

.

Once the cover-ups stop, and the police start policing their own, the thousands of good cops out there will be less likely to be tarred with the same broad brush.

“Constitutionist/ SAF”

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#10 Sep 1, 2011
sharkey wrote:
<Once the cover-ups stop, and the police start policing their own, the thousands of good cops out there will be less likely to be tarred with the same broad brush.
There are not thousands of good cops, they're all jack-booted thugs, govt enforcers. America is a police state because thousands of pigs have intimidated the newsmedia, politicians, and peasants.

“O'er the land of the free ? ”

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#11 Sep 2, 2011
The parents of a Southern California man who accuse police of killing their son with a Taser after he honked at a patrol car have sued the sheriff's department and county.

..The suit accuses the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department, the county of San Bernardino and three deputies of assault and battery as well as negligence in the death of Allen Kephart, 43.

Kephart was driving in Rimforest, 60 miles northeast of Los Angeles, in May when he honked at a patrol vehicle that turned in front of him, according to the lawsuit filed on Tuesday in San Bernardino Superior Court.

The sheriff's deputy then circled his patrol car back behind Kephart's vehicle and pulled him over at a nearby gas station, the lawsuit said.

The deputy ordered Kephart out of his car at gunpoint, forced him to the ground, and was joined by a sergeant and another deputy, the lawsuit said.

The three officers used their electroshock Taser weapons on Kephart "without provocation or justification" for about 10 minutes, expending five cartridges, the lawsuit states.

Kephart, who the suit said was "overheard screaming for help," stopped breathing at the gas station.

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.The suit also accused the officers, named as Deputy Ismael Diaz, Deputy Michael Gardea and Sergeant Bryan Lane, of failing to immediately perform cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR) or call for emergency assistance.

A representative from the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department declined to comment on the lawsuit.

But the department said in a statement earlier this year that Kephart "became combative and uncooperative" with a deputy after exiting his car.

The department also said the sheriff's deputies did at one point perform CPR on Kephart, and that he was later pronounced dead at a local hospital.

Kephart's family is seeking general and compensatory damages in an amount to be proven at trial for lost earning potential and loss of love and affection.

"Allen Kephart was a well known person in the community and was known by all, including the officers involved in this incident, to be ... kind hearted and nonviolent," the lawsuit said.

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44365830/ns/us_ne...

“O'er the land of the free ? ”

Since: Jan 09

Don't Tread On Me

#12 Sep 2, 2011
Homicide ruled after police tase man

newsnet5.com
updated 9/1/2011 1:18:22 PM ET 2011-09-01T17:18:22
The Cuyahoga County Medical Examiner has ruled homicide in the death of a man who died after being shocked by police with a stun gun.

Howard Hammon, 41, of Westlake, died in police custody after Middleburg Heights used two stun guns to subdue him following a traffic accident in June.

The cause of death was described as “sudden death in association with physical altercation, prone positioning with handcuffing, intoxication by the combined effects of ethanol, opiates and cannabinoids and cardiac hypertrophy," according to the medical examiner's office.

Police officers said Hammon was resisting arrest and was also impaired at the time of the incident.

Hammon’s family hired an attorney after the incident because they said police never informed them that officers used a Taser to subdue Hammon.

"I think it's a tragedy," Middleburg Heights Police Chief John Maddox said in June. "I don't think that individual meant to have it end up like this. I know that our officers didn't want that to happen."

Maddox also said that Hammon had a history of criminal activity, including domestic violence, disorderly conduct and possession of cocaine with intent to distribute.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44357686
March1968

High Springs, FL

#13 Sep 2, 2011
I would love to see a Second Amendment Club here in Live Oak or Mayo. A place where like minded people can get together, state the Pledge of Allegiance, and just mingle. Perhaps once a week meet at a designated area and do some firing and practice and once a month meet to discuss what is happening in our area concerning the second amendment and what we, as a group, can do about it. Politicians have a habit of listening to a group more so than to the one! Anyone interested in this idea? If post on here or start a new post.

“O'er the land of the free ? ”

Since: Jan 09

Don't Tread On Me

#14 Sep 2, 2011
March1968 wrote:
I would love to see a Second Amendment Club here in Live Oak or Mayo. A place where like minded people can get together, state the Pledge of Allegiance, and just mingle. Perhaps once a week meet at a designated area and do some firing and practice and once a month meet to discuss what is happening in our area concerning the second amendment and what we, as a group, can do about it. Politicians have a habit of listening to a group more so than to the one! Anyone interested in this idea? If post on here or star new post.
Why do you find a need for the "pledge of allegiance "?
March1968

High Springs, FL

#15 Sep 3, 2011
Simply because this is my country "One Nation Under God" and no body even seems to remember that any more. That flag was built around the themes, sweat and blood of our forefathers. The country that flag now represents is NOT the same country, however, I still respect that flag. Our country the way it could be if we started over again with a fresh congress and senate that understood the needs of our country and not the need to line their pockets. There will be another revolution in this country again and I hope that I am alive to see it, a live to participate in it! We need to get back to the basics of what this country was built upon! When I entered the service I took an oath to protect and to serve our country and the flag for which it stands. I don't remember anyone releasing me from that oath! However, I do NOT recognize a black, socialist Muslim that attended a church that preached hate for the white man as my president! They, not I, have elected an American President who forgets to salute during the National Anthem, requests that Christian Crosses be covered during his visits to college campuses, and bows his head when in front of Arabic Royalty. We deserve what is coming.

“O'er the land of the free ? ”

Since: Jan 09

Don't Tread On Me

#16 Sep 3, 2011
March1968 wrote:
Simply because this is my country "One Nation Under God" and no body even seems to remember that any more. That flag was built around the themes, sweat and blood of our forefathers. The country that flag now represents is NOT the same country, however, I still respect that flag. Our country the way it could be if we started over again with a fresh congress and senate that understood the needs of our country and not the need to line their pockets. There will be another revolution in this country again and I hope that I am alive to see it, a live to participate in it! We need to get back to the basics of what this country was built upon! When I entered the service I took an oath to protect and to serve our country and the flag for which it stands. I don't remember anyone releasing me from that oath! However, I do NOT recognize a black, socialist Muslim that attended a church that preached hate for the white man as my president! They, not I, have elected an American President who forgets to salute during the National Anthem, requests that Christian Crosses be covered during his visits to college campuses, and bows his head when in front of Arabic Royalty. We deserve what is coming.
"One nation under god '

This was a response to communism during the "red scare".

It has no historical significance to the founding of our country.

It was and is, propaganda.

“Constitutionist/ SAF”

Since: Mar 08

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#17 Sep 3, 2011
Fk god ! Let's burn a flag.

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:o)
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March1968

High Springs, FL

#18 Sep 4, 2011
Where Is My America wrote:
<quoted text>"One nation under god '
This was a response to communism during the "red scare".
It has no historical significance to the founding of our country.
It was and is, propaganda.
That is your opinion and you are certainly welcome to express it. However, each and every one of the founding fathers has at one time or another expressed their beliefs in God. I, for one, do not believe in God, however, for those that do that's great. A belief in a supreme being keeps some honest, but not Congress it seems! So as a response I say "Praise God and pass the ammunition"!

“O'er the land of the free ? ”

Since: Jan 09

Don't Tread On Me

#19 Sep 4, 2011
March1968 wrote:
<quoted text>
That is your opinion and you are certainly welcome to express it. However, each and every one of the founding fathers has at one time or another expressed their beliefs in God. I, for one, do not believe in God, however, for those that do that's great. A belief in a supreme being keeps some honest, but not Congress it seems! So as a response I say "Praise God and pass the ammunition"!
Look up the original Pledge.

Then see if your post still fits.
March1968

High Springs, FL

#20 Sep 4, 2011
I know the original pledge and I won't argue the wording with you nor will I continue to argue the post. What I am trying to say is that each and every one of the founding fathers at one time expressed their belief that this country was built on God and their belief in God. Even tho I do not believe I do wish that we could get back to the basics and get congress OUT and start over with a fresh Congress. A Congress that believes in the ideals of the original fathers and not the belief that I am better and there fore I deserve more and I will line my pockets and push through what will get me re-elected no matter what the effects are on the rest of the country. PORK!!

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